ChrisKen wrote:A101 wrote:The majority voted to leave the mechanism of the EU
When did this happen? Don't say the referendum of 2016, because they didn't.
What other avenue are you going to use to what the general feeling of the electorate is feeling...…..an unreliable sample poll?
ChrisKen wrote:The 2016 referendum was a poll of the electorate in order to obtain the advice of the electorate.
And one they proclaimed would be acted upon
ChrisKen wrote:The resulting advice was the electorate were split on the matter with a very narrow margin preferring to leave.
Until parliament changes the way referendums are conducted or the Parliament places certain conditions to be met the result was a legal interpretation from the electorate
ChrisKen wrote:It wasn't a win/lose vote, it doesn't get interrupted or followed through as per a GE and it sure as hell isn't required to be followed through regardless of the outcome.
Correct they could have set it aside, but it was policy of the government and parliament followed thru with it
ChrisKen wrote:Parliament and its MP's all said they would respect the result. They did this because respecting the result just means they have to consider the advice given ALONGSIDE all the other factors including their main priority, the national interests. If an MP considered the advice before voting in the house, then the 'result' has been respected.
there was the required debate within Parliament and they still passed the bill to invoke the process
ChrisKen wrote:You can get stamp your feet and get as gammon faced as you want, but if you keep spouting 'but democracy, leave won!', then it's clear to all you haven't got a grasp of how our democracy works on its most basic of levels.
I think I've been involved enough to know how the system works
ChrisKen wrote:Parliament clearly beleive no deal is very much against the national interests.
If the NoDeal morons want a no deal, they should actually put forward a argument that will persuade them otherwise. They won't because the consenus (globally) says otherwise.
Parliament clearly knows the difference between a good deal and a bad deal, but until they vote to remain no deal is the default,
ChrisKen wrote:Parliament haven't yet reached consensus on which is the best option for the UK. Parliament is soverign, the house of commons is our democractic voice. It's their decision to make, let them make it. Stop with the faux non-democratic outrage just because they won't screw over 65million people with your preferred option right now.
Parliament is clearly frustrating the process to engineer a certain result I would have had more respect if they just decided on a position and stick to it revoke or leave those are the choices.
Under your interpretation if they put in a caretaker PM during the week what makes a 2nd referendum have more importance as the first, and if by chance it came back as no deal should Parliament honour the result after all its non-binding right, the LibDems have all ready said they wont and they will fight all the way to remain.