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HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:24 am

An IG report issued yesterday with some harrowing details for both federal staff and children affected by the WH zero tolerance policies:

The proportion of children younger than 12 years old skyrocketed when the policy took effect, and the mental health providers said they were not prepared.

“Staff reported feeling challenged to care for children who presented different needs from the teenagers they typically served,” the report said.

The longer the children stayed in custody, often the worse their mental health became....

....A program director relayed the story of a 7- or 8-year-old boy who was separated from his father, without any explanation as to why the separation occurred. The child believed his father had been killed and thought that he would also be killed. According to the director, the boy ultimately required emergency psychiatric care.

“Every single separated kid has been terrified. We’re [seen as] the enemy,” another program director said in the report, noting that separated children could not distinguish facility staff from the immigration agents who separated them from their parents.


https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... d-children

Surely there is a better way? Hire more asylum judges, disallow detention stays in excess of 14 days for processing and coordinate officially with relief groups like ARC and Catholic Charities. Wouldn’t that at least better for the victims? And hire some counselors for these federal staff who are overwhelmed by encountering traumatized kids daily.
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:54 am

This is despicable in every way.

No question people executing these task apparently are so lacking in empathy that they cannot recall when they were a child, and call upon your earliest memory of a parent suddenly or unexpectedly leaving you.

And they psychological damage that does.

Children think they've been abandoned...after a day, they are sure of it as they are surrounded by strangers.
They it gets worse as they reach for their worst fears..they're parent are dead - and they could be next.

I recently told a conservative friend (but he's slipping, he says it's hard to defend this president)... I told him, his lack of empathy for those people in those cages, particularly those kids, answered a long held question on my part.

I told him that I've always wondered 'who were those people 140 years ago, that watched capture slaves in cages.
Speaking only of those non-slave owners or visitors to the South (Northern & Foreign) observing the practice.

Did they gawk out of curiousity? Of course. You would too.
Did it bother them to witness children being permanently taken from their mothers or sold away. - I'm guess most walked away with the thought 'Gee, glad that wasn't me'.
Which most would in that era with the practice so pervasive throughout the South.

I told him, you perfectly represent those gawkers of that period. 'You' would be on of those feeling little if no empathy for other humans being treated that way.

He said he would not. I then asked 'Why are you not angered by this current inhuman problem'.

Being a typical conservative, he claimed the 'they should not have been here illegally' card.

I replied - "So, it doesn't disturb you? I'm right then, were you alive in 1840 America and not a slave...you would have said 'that's the way it is...'

He's still thinking of a reply.

But regarding this subject, America needs to find it's shame....unless they are of the 40% and like their leader and have none.

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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:08 am

So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US
 
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:12 am

dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US


Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:26 am

What is more Christian and republican than child abuse? This is their wheelhouse. It's an extra intoxicating bonus for them that it's not white kids. They don't even care about American kids after they're born--why would they care about immigrants?

dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US

People leaving WWII were horrible for taking their children. Got it :checkmark: Not illegal either. God help your children if you have/ever have any, knowing you would leave them to rot in a dangerous situation because getting them out would be "abuse" in your delusional world.

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dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US


Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.

I don't know why anyone would expect otherwise from Trump supporters. The child abuse is like porn to them. They'd shoot them on site if they could--they think it's hilarious and their fuhrer certainly thinks the same.
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:55 am

Aaron747 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US


Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.


Thousands of children die every day in countries around the world, are u concerned with their feelings? These kids get separated due to an imperfect bureaucratic system, knowing that will potentially face them when they arrive, why would a parent put them through such abuse?
 
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:02 am

Aaron747 wrote:
“Every single separated kid has been terrified. We’re [seen as] the enemy,” another program director said in the report...


And rightis and the MAGA base wonder why there are Latino gangs gaining strength.
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:03 am

dmg626 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US


Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.


Thousands of children die every day in countries around the world, are u concerned with their feelings? These kids get separated due to an imperfect bureaucratic system, knowing that will potentially face them when they arrive, why would a parent put them through such abuse?


This nation was supposed to be that great shining city on the hill. We now have children dying from the flu in dog cages. How is that making us great? "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" only if you speak English and have a specific skin tone? Is that what this great nation is about?
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:10 am

dmg626 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US


Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.


Thousands of children die every day in countries around the world, are u concerned with their feelings?

Yah you cut funding for them too but the child abuse in your name on the southern border was a choice, and on purpose, thanks to Eichmann Miller who can't stand non whites, American or otherwise. Swell job reminding everyone how pro life and not racist you all are. :roll: The pointless cruelty is as purposeful as the stupidity is natural for republicans now.
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:23 am

dmg626 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:
So they are victims of their parents abuse by illegally dragging them a long distance and will be knowingly put into some type of detention facility. Maybe their friends will get the message and not abuse their children the same way by following their path to the US


Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.


Thousands of children die every day in countries around the world, are u concerned with their feelings? These kids get separated due to an imperfect bureaucratic system, knowing that will potentially face them when they arrive, why would a parent put them through such abuse?


Actually I am - have regularly cut checks to DWB, ARC, and USAID programs, especially since a good friend from HS has been a program director in several developing countries the last 10 years.

So aside from ‘don’t come’ - what is your suggestion to improve these conditions? They will keep coming because their countries are unstable.
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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:40 am

seb146 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

Not a single comment about how the children may be feeling, or how our federal staff are coping. Unfortunately that says a lot.


Thousands of children die every day in countries around the world, are u concerned with their feelings? These kids get separated due to an imperfect bureaucratic system, knowing that will potentially face them when they arrive, why would a parent put them through such abuse?


This nation was supposed to be that great shining city on the hill. We now have children dying from the flu in dog cages. How is that making us great? "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" only if you speak English and have a specific skin tone? Is that what this great nation is about?


I'm certain you've seen those interactive maps that display increased air traffic across the nation/globe over a period of time.

I'd like to see an interactive map comparing the spreading of Ignorance vs the spread of intellect...

My guess is .. the former is eclipsing the latter at unprecedented speeds...which portends the world's destiny.

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Re: HHS IG Report: Trauma for Separated Children

Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:54 am

BN747 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:

Thousands of children die every day in countries around the world, are u concerned with their feelings? These kids get separated due to an imperfect bureaucratic system, knowing that will potentially face them when they arrive, why would a parent put them through such abuse?


This nation was supposed to be that great shining city on the hill. We now have children dying from the flu in dog cages. How is that making us great? "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" only if you speak English and have a specific skin tone? Is that what this great nation is about?


I'm certain you've seen those interactive maps that display increased air traffic across the nation/globe over a period of time.

I'd like to see an interactive map comparing the spreading of Ignorance vs the spread of intellect...

My guess is .. the former is eclipsing the latter at unprecedented speeds...which portends the world's destiny.

BN747


Apologies...I meant to say 'which portends Humanity's destiny.


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