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Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:41 am

What do you think of Airlines who censor their entertainment library? Most airlines have gone to Netflix type catalog
offering a variety of movies and shows on domestic and international flights.

they pay a third-party company, to censor the shows for them.

recently Delta has gotten in trouble for censoring Rocketman gay content
and the movie book smart gay content.

Here's the thing, and I honestly don't know the answer. Why are they still censoring?

Airlines used to censor movies, removing swear words, and sex scenes, to make them PG friendly
for people who were traveling with children.

however, that was when they had one screen up for everyone to watch one movie.
now, with individual screens, and numerous movies and shows to watch, why are they still censoring?

I would think one click of the screen, are you older than 18, and if you answered yes, then you could see
rocketman or book smart uncensored. What are your thoughts?
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:45 am

I would point out when it comes to Violent and sexually explicit content just because you have your own screen does not mean Karens little darling in the seat across from you can't still see Jason cutting someones head off on your screen. And trust me when Karens little angle starts crying she will make a scene about it. I'm not sure however what they would censor in an Elton John biopic unless there is some real gratuitous nudity they cut but I don't gather that was the cut they made.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:31 am

It seems to me that most likely, there is lots to loose and very little to gain by the airlines not censoring the movies they offer through IFE. I would imagine that as soon as they weren’t censored, someone would eventually complain. From there, the cost of defending themselves, combined with the unnecessary attention, would soon be costly.

Further, I can’t see an airline touting uncensored movies as a benefit of flying them.

While I definitely don’t mind uncensored content, I can easily see what the airline would want to just avoid the possible issues all together.
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:55 am

I don't see the big deal if an international airline like DL does it. They fly to other nations with different censorship rules than the United States. To keep those "conservative" countries happy, they have to go by their rules across the board. It is easier. Otherwise, they have to have content for JFK-LAX and different content BOS-LHR and different content for SFO-HNL and different content SEA-NRT and so on and so forth. Plus, the time it would take to reprogram the IFE between flights and if something goes wrong during the download and if they download content for JFK-FCO that was supposed to be for SFO-PEK.

It may seem draconian but if it keeps me from being reminded that I am on a metal tube with 200+ other people hurtling through the stratosphere at 500+ MPH, I say bring it!
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:03 am

Aircraft have IFE to help passengers passing time during flights. IFE is not intended to give passengers the same level of experience as watching tv or movies at home or in movie theaters.

I don't know whether this is significant or not, censored content requires less server storage space.
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:23 am

Its frustrating when they censor the best IFE on the market:

"Shades closed please!"

:mad: :lol:
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 am

ACDC8 wrote:
Its frustrating when they censor the best IFE on the market:

"Shades closed please!"

:mad: :lol:

They do it very easily on 787s. :mrgreen:
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:45 pm

Sometimes the censorship ruins the context and meaning of a movie's story but is necessary due to the audience. USA based airlines usually follow network broadcast TV censoring rules, mainly of nudity, sex and certain words, Usually this done with the permission and involvement of the original owners of the film/program. There could be certain political content that could be against the law or hurt business relations requiring censorship or not shown on certain routes (like with China).
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:04 pm

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
recently Delta has gotten in trouble for censoring Rocketman gay content
and the movie book smart gay content.

Wasn't just the gay content.... "Vagina" was censured as well.

To be fair, though, Delta did state they did not ask for the content to be censured, and have requested that the vendor they use for their IFE provide them with uncensored movies.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:57 pm

While you may be flying LAX to JFK, your plane's next flight might be JFK to DXB, where censorship rules are strictly enforced. So instead of rebooting the system each time, movies are censored like seth said
Instead of typing in "mods", consider using the report function.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:38 am

I think they should just specifically announce what kind of content there is in a film and anyone who's not comfortable with certain content can avoid it. I find it rather tiring that all needs to be watered down to please a conservative crowd. Religious films aren't censored either to keep their messages from me. I just don't watch content that I might not enjoy or if I watch it I accept how it is. If anyone doesn't want to watch a film with gay content then just don't watch it. It's that simple.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:46 am

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
Here's the thing, and I honestly don't know the answer. Why are they still censoring?

Airlines used to censor movies, removing swear words, and sex scenes, to make them PG friendly
for people who were traveling with children.

however, that was when they had one screen up for everyone to watch one movie.
now, with individual screens, and numerous movies and shows to watch, why are they still censoring?


This doesn't speak specifically to the Rocketman content, but do you think movie scenes that depict plane crashes should be censored when shown in flight?
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:50 am

LH748 wrote:
I think they should just specifically announce what kind of content there is in a film and anyone who's not comfortable with certain content can avoid it. I find it rather tiring that all needs to be watered down to please a conservative crowd. Religious films aren't censored either to keep their messages from me. I just don't watch content that I might not enjoy or if I watch it I accept how it is. If anyone doesn't want to watch a film with gay content then just don't watch it. It's that simple.


If you are sitting in the privacy of your home and choose not to watch EWTN, that's fine. I don't watch it and it is not my place to demand others stop watching it in their homes if they so choose.

But, an international airline that flies to conservative nations must comply with their media standards so they don't break local laws. If there were a slip or a hack and programming that goes against a particular nation's censorship laws would cause a big controversy. It is just easier to censor everything so there is little to no chance of an international incident. Look at the uproar over seeing Janet Jackson's nipple for 1/5 of a second. Too many conservatives were OUTRAGED!!! they may have seen a female nipple. Europe, Japan, Australia, and "liberal" areas of the United States didn't care. Same thing.

If you want to see T&A on a flight, download content onto your tablet and watch it.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:36 am

I'm just going to echo what others have said, it's not about whether or not censorship "makes sense", it's just easier for airlines to censor content. Check out nassim taleb's minority rule
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:34 pm

winginit wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
Here's the thing, and I honestly don't know the answer. Why are they still censoring?

Airlines used to censor movies, removing swear words, and sex scenes, to make them PG friendly
for people who were traveling with children.

however, that was when they had one screen up for everyone to watch one movie.
now, with individual screens, and numerous movies and shows to watch, why are they still censoring?


This doesn't speak specifically to the Rocketman content, but do you think movie scenes that depict plane crashes should be censored when shown in flight?


They probably would be in that case.

Incidentally I watched "Sully" whilst cruising over the Atlantic on an AA A330 last year and "A Thousand Heroes" about United 232 whilst travelling on a Thomas Cook flight earlier this year, both on my tablet and not IFE of course :)

Speaking as former crew, censoring has probably been reduced considerably with the advent of PTVs. Back when we had overhead screens we had strict guidelines as to what films we could show (even though they were already edited). I recall one film, "The Sentinel" (Not particularly gruesome) where our instructions were if there was so much as one child on the flight we had to show the "other" choice (Being that we only had 2 films for the outbound and 2 for the return). I found it rather ironic that despite the "kid friendly" choice being a tale about a load of Huskies in the ice it was rather sad given a load died yet would probably have not thought twice about the action in the "adult" movie...

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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:49 pm

Perhaps it would be easier if they just included films which they deemed suitable.
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:49 pm

When I flew on Afriqiyah from AMS to JNB via TIP they showed "Tropic Thunder". In the movie, not only scenes with women in bikinis were pixelated, but also whenever a male actor showed up in his undershirts!
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:22 pm

bennett123 wrote:
Perhaps it would be easier if they just included films which they deemed suitable.


Then the movie list would really suck. I’d prefer they keep censoring what they deem culturally inappropriate but still show good movies.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:00 pm

A few years back in a flight to Moscow the guy sitting in the seat next to me was watching gay porn on his pad, he was also reading this forum. Reading this forum isn’t an issue but watching porn (gay or normal) on a daytime flight was out of line.
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:17 pm

Why all of the fake outrage? Movies shown on television are frequently edited for content, yet I don't hear any complaints about that.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:07 pm

Kiwirob wrote:
A few years back in a flight to Moscow the guy sitting in the seat next to me was watching gay porn on his pad, he was also reading this forum. Reading this forum isn’t an issue but watching porn (gay or normal) on a daytime flight was out of line.


I'm impressed with his ability to multi-task. I can do one or the other, no problem, but not both at once.
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:07 pm

There is every age possible flying on planes and the airline needs to address sensitive needs of all, but especially long kids on up. Maybe the airline can set aside a limited number of seats in the very back of the plane for pax who prefer sex scenes or rough language, or extreme violence. That way you can go to the ticket counter and ask for fully uncensored movies. each row, as it is filled with full paying pax requesting those versions can have a switch thrown. If the full row isn't sold to pax wanting the same versions you'll be SOL, but you'll probably have your movies on your notebook.
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:18 am

Ken777 wrote:
There is every age possible flying on planes and the airline needs to address sensitive needs of all, but especially long kids on up. Maybe the airline can set aside a limited number of seats in the very back of the plane for pax who prefer sex scenes or rough language, or extreme violence. That way you can go to the ticket counter and ask for fully uncensored movies. each row, as it is filled with full paying pax requesting those versions can have a switch thrown. If the full row isn't sold to pax wanting the same versions you'll be SOL, but you'll probably have your movies on your notebook.

I don't think I'd take to kindly to seeing a bunch of people wanking while I was headed to the back bathroom :lol:
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:16 am

On a recent flights JFK-MAD and MAD-JFK on Iberia, the films for adults seemed to have minimal censorship as to language or violence, although nudity might have been censored. They state in the info about a movie and up front before the movie starts that it contains adult language and scenes not suitable for children, as well as note the film has been altered to fill the IFE screen. Europeans are less concerned about language, violence and nudity than 'puritanical' Americans.
 
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Re: Airline still censoring movie content

Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:44 am

I've seen Deadpool on bootleg in my friends apartment and censored on an airplane. I don't think many parents would appreciate seeing their kids get a glimpse of pegging while on the airplane.
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