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Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:48 am
by BN747
Aaron747 wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:
From drumpfs twitter:
"Nancy Pelosi is looking for a Quid Pro Quo with the Senate. Why aren’t we Impeaching her?"
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Seriously, this guy has to be the dumbest MF'er on the planet. And yet there are some on this site who worship him? Why? I mean don't you think there is somebody else just a tad better? It really does show the state of ones mental faculties when they support/defend someone like him. I wonder who ties his shoes for him, maybe velcro?


I am consistently amazed by the staggering amount of entitled whining a 73 year-old with plenty of life comforts can do. It’s like seeing a senior male version of a spoiled teenage girl on TV daily. And this is ‘heroic’ and ‘alpha’ to insecure men around the country? The mind boggles.


Slight adjustment...
...And this is ‘heroic’ and ‘alpha’ to MOST insecure men around the country? The mind boggles

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:32 pm
by P1aneMad
Despair not dear comrades.
The end of Trump is nigh!

Just 5 short years and some change away.
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Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:07 am
by trpmb6
So how do you all on the left feel about Speaker pelosi holding the managers back? I mean if this was so important that the president needed to be removed immediately, you would think this would be urgent and she would have had managers picked already.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:27 am
by BN747
trpmb6 wrote:
So how do you all on the left feel about Speaker pelosi holding the managers back? I mean if this was so important that the president needed to be removed immediately, you would think this would be urgent and she would have had managers picked already.


If you think that is all this about....then apparently, you are not paying attention to what is happening, turn on something other than FOX News and it'll be explained in 10 seconds or less.

She's way ahead of what Fox last told you.

BN747

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:48 am
by SanDiegoLover
trpmb6 wrote:
So how do you all on the left feel about Speaker pelosi holding the managers back? I mean if this was so important that the president needed to be removed immediately, you would think this would be urgent and she would have had managers picked already.


She’s been pretty clear on this...she’s waiting to see what kind of a trial it is so she can appoint the best, most suitable, managers to try the case.

LMAO! That’s what Pelosi says....but it’s really 100% political tactic and I find it hilarious. Stop your pearl clutching. Pelosi is just giving you a taste of Republican’s own medicine. See Merrick Garland and Hillary Clinton and Benghazi. Most delicious this drives Trump koo koo, bananas. LOL!

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:51 am
by seb146
trpmb6 wrote:
So how do you all on the left feel about Speaker pelosi holding the managers back? I mean if this was so important that the president needed to be removed immediately, you would think this would be urgent and she would have had managers picked already.


McConnell does not want to have a real trial. Recall that, in the Clinton trial, there were witnesses. Both sides had the opportunity to examine witnesses. McConnell does not want that. He simply wants the prosecution to make a statement, the defense to make a statement, and a vote to be held. That's all he wants and nothing more.

Recall also that Republicans were whining and crying and complaining about not having witnesses and not following procedure. Time to put up or shut up.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:55 am
by seb146
uh-oh.... Another right wing publication calling for the removal of the Russian agent

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/na ... tUz1wbxGTU

Conservative outlet National Review was not a fan and, now, the senior editor calls for his removal. How long will it be before this conservative publication since 1955 is called fake and deep state and so on...

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:16 am
by SanDiegoLover
This latest bombshell is a perfect example of why McConnell wants to hurry up and shut the door on the issue of impeachment. McConnell knows Trump is guilty as sin and that extending this trial only allows more info to be exposed.

Aid to Ukraine was frozen 90 MINUTES after the Zelensky phone call! Michael Duffey, head of the budget office, then told the Pentagon to shut their mouths about the withholding of aid. Of course, Michael Duffey has dodged testifying to Congress.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/21/us/p ... e-aid.html

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:14 pm
by KFTG
trpmb6 wrote:
So how do you all on the left feel about Speaker pelosi holding the managers back? I mean if this was so important that the president needed to be removed immediately, you would think this would be urgent and she would have had managers picked already.

How stupid do you think we are?

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:42 pm
by GalaxyFlyer
The Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, have been campaigning to impeach Trump since 12:19pm on Jan 20, 2019. So, impeached on BS charges on a partisan vote, acquired by a partisan vote seems fair. Next up, exploding heads when he wins in November.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/

GF

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 am
by Aaron747
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, have been campaigning to impeach Trump since 12:19pm on Jan 20, 2019. So, impeached on BS charges on a partisan vote, acquired by a partisan vote seems fair. Next up, exploding heads when he wins in November.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/

GF


Again, nobody will call the charges BS once the four taped WH mouths testify. Every fact witness has testified under oath except the four cabinet members with the most intimate knowledge. What does that tell you? McConnell knows.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 1.html?amp

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:44 am
by BN747
Aaron747 wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, have been campaigning to impeach Trump since 12:19pm on Jan 20, 2019. So, impeached on BS charges on a partisan vote, acquired by a partisan vote seems fair. Next up, exploding heads when he wins in November.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/

GF


Again, nobody will call the charges BS once the four taped WH mouths testify. Every fact witness has testified under oath except the four cabinet members with the most intimate knowledge. What does that tell you? McConnell knows.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 1.html?amp


You do realize that you're dealing with a 'facts don't matter' mentality, right?

BN747

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:39 am
by casinterest
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, have been campaigning to impeach Trump since 12:19pm on Jan 20, 2019. So, impeached on BS charges on a partisan vote, acquired by a partisan vote seems fair. Next up, exploding heads when he wins in November.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/

GF

No, they haven't. There was no campaign to impeach trump until he abused executive power for his personal benefit.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:14 am
by seb146
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, have been campaigning to impeach Trump since 12:19pm on Jan 20, 2019. So, impeached on BS charges on a partisan vote, acquired by a partisan vote seems fair. Next up, exploding heads when he wins in November.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/

GF


I don't have a subscription to WaPo. Do you have anything other than a right wing opinion piece as proof impeachment was the end game since the date you mention? Maybe like this one?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11 ... ng-clinton

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:29 am
by CitizenJustin
DeltaConnection wrote:
I'd love to see Trump removed from office so a real conservative, Mike Pence can takeover. We'd finally have an actual leader, someone presidential, and pass some right leaning laws that aren't over the top like Trump's racist Immigration bans/walls/other crap.



The religious extremist Mike Pence? The guy who vetoed an LGBT anti-discriminatory bill in his home state? He’s just another one of them. The guy who thinks god chose Trump to be president? No, no, no. He’s worse because he knows what he’s doing.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:35 am
by CitizenJustin
BN747 wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
DarkSnowyNight wrote:
Nobody is rejoicing. There is nothing here to celebrate.


Is that why all the House Dems burst into applause after the vote? My thanks to them for that, by the way - Pelosi had to frantically quiet them down when she realized that footage will be a part of every Trump campaign ad going forward.

Sure, they hung an asterisk on President Trump, but in November 2020 he’ll still get re-elected and will get to nominate at least two more Supreme Court picks.


...and yet, not a single one of you MAGA doods can tell us from where these 'magical votes' will come from...not one.

I'm sure most of you are counting on Russian assistance (again). (explains why none of you guys speak of Russians, you know who butters your bread).
Voter Roll purging is currently in full throttle in Red states, so that'll help with votes...

So besides all that cheating, and winning fair and square is out of the question...where will the votes materialize?


*Impeachment*...smells like dead whale meat, huh? A like a skunk spray...it's there like forever!
BN747




Republicans can’t win anything without cheating.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:06 am
by EA CO AS
CitizenJustin wrote:
Republicans can’t win anything without cheating.


Hold my beer.

Signed,

The (Democrat-controlled) City of Chicago

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:27 am
by DarkSnowyNight
trpmb6 wrote:
So how do you all on the left feel about Speaker Pelosi holding the managers back? I mean if this was so important that the president needed to be removed immediately, you would think this would be urgent and she would have had managers picked already.


The Democratic Party has a level of accountability the GOP is generally unfamiliar with. While the reds are more forgiving of non-conformities, the Democrats have shown, time and again, that they are not afraid to eat their own children if that is what it takes to right the ship.


You can actually see this now. Clinton is not sitting this race out because of popularity issues, per se. She is doing that because she knows the party will not allow someone who let a quality escape like trump to slip by another chance. Tulsi Gabbard's impending career destruction is also happening for the same reasons.


Pelosi will absolutely lose her position as Speaker if she has the appearance of allowing the Senate to nullify the law and let an obviously guilty president walk. So it becomes necessary to use every tool available to insure that the job is done correctly. This will include things like delays, additional charges, and yes, requiring the Senate come up with a plan that sees this all the way through. The longer this drags out, the more pressure this exerts on Senate GOP members. Please keep in mind, it is an election year for them too. Doubling down, and trying to appeal to right wing bases simply will not be an option, given how purple most of these states are becoming. This is a far more complicated Demon Trap than most of you on the right truly understand.

Given the overwhelming odds that Shumer will be the Senate Majority Leader January after next, there is a huge amount of pressure to be exerted on the GOP. McConnell will keep talking -although in more and more compromised terms- but the fact of the matter is that the GOP will need to do everything they can to have the appearance of a fair trial with an appropriate and acceptable result. And even that may not be enough, as they have a much larger number of at-risk seats, including McConnell's own.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:19 am
by P1aneMad
Poor Nancy and equally delusional Dems...

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Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:06 pm
by tommy1808
P1aneMad wrote:
Poor Nancy and equally delusional Dems...

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"And since the spirit of impeachment showed her how Trump would get reelected if she doesn't stop his treasonous criminal behaviour, and she finally kicked of the impeachment proceedings...."

Best regards
Thomas

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:46 pm
by P1aneMad
Trump's treasonous criminal behaviour


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Meanwhile in the real world and straight from Clinton's News Network mouth:

Analysis: Trump is gaining ground heading into 2020
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/22/poli ... index.html

Impeachment is going to be the gift that keeps on giving!

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:55 pm
by tommy1808
P1aneMad wrote:
Meanwhile in the real world and straight from Clinton's News Network mouth:

Analysis: Trump is gaining ground heading into 2020


I am happy to see that CNN works hard to make sure Americans go vote, and Anti-Americans feel save and can stay home. Of course Fox "News" is trying the same in the opposite direction....

best regards
Thomas

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:40 pm
by P1aneMad
You got them mixed up. The Anti-Americans are the far left voters who vote reliably Democratic. Just like in every other country in the West the people who most detest their nation vote left leaning parties.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:52 pm
by tommy1808
P1aneMad wrote:
You got them mixed up. The Anti-Americans are the far left voters who vote reliably Democratic. Just like in every other country in the West the people who most detest their nation vote left leaning parties.


a) by the standards of the rest of the world democrats are center-right. And Republicans the extremist party... elsewhere intelligence agencies keep an eye in those parties as they I invariably turn against country, but the FBI counter intelligence is of course asleep again.
b) it's the Republicans that currently give a big "I don't care about the constitution", Mitch has practically announced he will lie under oath and refuse to play his constitutional role, to keep their serial sex abuser confirming judges...

But keep up the good work and spread the news Trump is gaining!!!!

Best regards
Thomas

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:25 pm
by UnMAXed
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Also the followers of Marx's fantasies believe that Trump will somehow not make it to January 2025 as POTUS.
Oh well, it is Christmas so you might as well keep hoping. But you have a better chance getting an actual visit from Santa.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:40 pm
by tommy1808
UnMAXed wrote:
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Also the followers of Marx's fantasies believe that Trump will somehow not make it to January 2025 as POTUS.
Oh well, it is Christmas so you might as well keep hoping. But you have a better chance getting an actual visit from Santa.


It's funny when people think they post a clever meme, but only show they have no clue what they are talking about.
Maybe reading some Marx would help, before posting about him.
But the invisible hand is of course real.... :banghead:

But also thank you for your hard work to increase democratic voter turnout!

Best regards
Thomas

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:45 pm
by UnMAXed
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:31 pm
by BN747
UnMAXed wrote:
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.


yeah and which nations and what time period is this?

BN747

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:19 pm
by UnMAXed
BN747 wrote:
UnMAXed wrote:
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.


yeah and which nations and what time period is this?

BN747

Every single nation who had Marx's teachings foisted upon it whether in Europe, Asia, Africa or Latin America suffered unimaginable oppression, poverty and death.
Without a single exemption.
And we are talking about dozens of countries. Not even one managed to make Marxism work for its people instead of working against it.
Not even one.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:20 pm
by BN747
UnMAXed wrote:
BN747 wrote:
UnMAXed wrote:
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.


yeah and which nations and what time period is this?

BN747

Every single nation who had Marx's teachings foisted upon it whether in Europe, Asia, Africa or Latin America suffered unimaginable oppression, poverty and death.
Without a single exemption.
And we are talking about dozens of countries. Not even one managed to make Marxism work for its people instead of working against it.
Not even one.


Again, name those examples and when...simple question.

BN747

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:53 pm
by UnMAXed
I do not have to do anything of the short.
It is you who is challenging reality. So present proof that Marxism works.
Which country of the planet successfully implemented it?
Which country didn't brutalize it's own citizens into submission to this inhumane ideology?
Go on, make me laugh!

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:47 pm
by tommy1808
UnMAXed wrote:
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.


No one has ever experienced "applied Marxism", so the point is rather moot. If they had read it they at least would have known more than you.

UnMAXed wrote:
I do not have to do anything of the short.
It is you who is challenging reality. So present proof that Marxism works.
Which country of the planet successfully implemented it?
Which country didn't brutalize it's own citizens into submission to this inhumane ideology?
Go on, make me laugh!


Funny, considering that there isn't a working capitalist system on this planet either, and where capitalism rained there was just about zero difference between it and religious fundamentalism.
European countries are largely highly influenced by Marx and Engels, highly successful and have, compared to the US, no government agents brutalizing anyone. Instead of taking private property we made it mandatory for it to serve the common good. Hence it could stay private. We do our elections more traditional than Marx and Engels would have envisioned it, their idea was imperative democracy, not representative, and since that was never implemented anywhere, drowning on about something you clear don't understand is quite funny.

Best regards
Thomas

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:51 pm
by tommy1808
BN747 wrote:
UnMAXed wrote:
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.


yeah and which nations and what time period is this?

BN747


I don't think he is stupid enough to give you a name and date, so you can explain the US involvement.... just for kicks you could just start with Nicaragua in the 80s....

Best regards
Thomas

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:50 pm
by BN747
tommy1808 wrote:
BN747 wrote:
UnMAXed wrote:
If only the people of the dozens of nations who experienced applied Marxism first hand had read all that BS they would have avoided decades of pain and suffering.
But sadly they were never given a choice on whether they wanted or not to experience this madness.


yeah and which nations and what time period is this?

BN747


I don't think he is stupid enough to give you a name and date, so you can explain the US involvement.... just for kicks you could just start with Nicaragua in the 80s....

Best regards
Thomas


Don't answer for him, let him provide examples of all these types he's complaining about, I want see what he knows vs whe he 'heard' someone parrot.

BN747

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:25 pm
by casinterest
The impeachment process is still moving along as Pelosi withholds the articles of impeachment while awaiting further document requests to occur.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics ... index.html

"Leader McConnell is doubling down on his violation of his oath, even after the exposure of new, deeply incriminating documents this week which provide further evidence of what we know: President Trump abused the power of his office for personal, political gain," Pelosi said in that statement. "The American people deserve the truth. Every Senator now faces a choice: to be loyal to the President or the Constitution."


Pelosi's moves have proved to be astute, as the underlying documents have shown that Trump has directed the withholding of aid to Ukraine, and the new found willingness of John Bolton to testify. The GOP will look mighty stupid if Bolton is not allowed to testify, and they move to acquit.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:18 pm
by casinterest
Game on?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/0 ... ent-096786

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Thursday told Republican senators that he expects Speaker Nancy Pelosi to transmit the articles of impeachment to the Senate as soon as Friday, setting up an impeachment trial that begins early next week.



How unfortunate for Trump that his Iran sideshow blew up in his face.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:39 pm
by extender
Break out the popcorn. He still hasn't been impeached. What the house came up with was a sham. If Pelosi presents the articles to the Senate, the fun will begin.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:19 pm
by casinterest
extender wrote:
Break out the popcorn. He still hasn't been impeached. What the house came up with was a sham. If Pelosi presents the articles to the Senate, the fun will begin.

He has been impeached. Moving the articles to the Senate is a formality. All that remains is a Senate Trail , where the sycophants will have to weigh whether their allegiance to Trump outweighs his abuse of power.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:42 pm
by seb146
Because Senate Republican leaders refuse to have a fair trial with witnesses testifying under oath, I wonder if Democrats can have John Bolton speak? I ask because, from what McConnell and Graham have said, they simply want statements from both sides and a vote held. No actual trial. McConnell would stand and give his "BLAME HILLARY!!!" and "BLAME JOE BIDEN!!" schtick but would John Bolton be able to give his details and first hand accounts of all the illegal activity?

Not that it would change the minds of Republicans. Party before country, you know.....

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:59 am
by extender
Fair trial? That is hilarious. Schiff made a mockery of Congress with his kangaroo court. If your hatred of Trump runs so deep as to impeach at any cost, you are no better than what you accuse him to be.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:33 pm
by casinterest
extender wrote:
Fair trial? That is hilarious. Schiff made a mockery of Congress with his kangaroo court. If your hatred of Trump runs so deep as to impeach at any cost, you are no better than what you accuse him to be.



Just because the dishonorable members of the GOP house did nothing but grandstand, instead of actively working to investigate, doesn't mean it wasn't a fair trial. If the GOP had put a tenth of a percent of the effort they had put into Benghazi, they would have come away with a slight bit of honor.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:04 pm
by extender
After Trump won the election in November, democrats started looking for ways to manufacture dirt on Trump. The Steele Dossier (which was Hillary all the way), the Mueller commission; which came away with nothing. Quick, come up with something else... Fake Whistleblowers pulled out of a hat, no special counsel finding, and the uncouth, classless members of Congress openly saying Impeachment or bust. Schiff and Nadler are better at making stuff up than they are representing their constituents. Liberals are too sore to admit defeat in 2016, and by hook or by crook,they are going to do their best to get Trump out, even if it means disenfranchising the voters that elected him to office. So spare me all the dripping hate and loathing, it is going to be a rough ride until 20 JAN 2025.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:13 pm
by casinterest
extender wrote:
After Trump won the election in November, democrats started looking for ways to manufacture dirt on Trump. The Steele Dossier (which was Hillary all the way), the Mueller commission; which came away with nothing. Quick, come up with something else... Fake Whistleblowers pulled out of a hat, no special counsel finding, and the uncouth, classless members of Congress openly saying Impeachment or bust. Schiff and Nadler are better at making stuff up than they are representing their constituents. Liberals are too sore to admit defeat in 2016, and by hook or by crook,they are going to do their best to get Trump out, even if it means disenfranchising the voters that elected him to office. So spare me all the dripping hate and loathing, it is going to be a rough ride until 20 JAN 2025.


Look at how cowardly the GOP has become. Labeling a good faith whistle blower as Fake instead of actually investigating the crime. Low life do nothing GOP members that are selling out our country to foreign nations for dirt on political opponents. The GOP will be embarrassed throughout 2020, and will be lucky to get 80% of their voters from 2016 to show up.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:44 pm
by wingman
extender wrote:
Fair trial? That is hilarious. Schiff made a mockery of Congress with his kangaroo court. If your hatred of Trump runs so deep as to impeach at any cost, you are no better than what you accuse him to be.


He doesn't run a court, he runs an INVESTIGATION. Read up, learn something. It's the GOP that runs the court, and it is truly of the Kangaroo variety when they don't want to hear from any witnesses involved in the alleged crime. Is there any other court in the land that conducts an open trial of any kind refusing to hear from witnesses directly involved in the case? Don't jump on the keyboard, take a few minutes to think about it.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:27 pm
by extender
casinterest wrote:
Low life do nothing GOP members that are selling out our country to foreign nations for dirt on political opponents.


Re-read what you wrote. Hillary was in the foreign pockets. Uranium One, anyone? The steel Dossier, who paid for it? Go ahead and tell me how the GoP did it. I know a lot of voters that don't usually vote that are coming out to slap the democrats running for office.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:43 pm
by seb146
extender wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Low life do nothing GOP members that are selling out our country to foreign nations for dirt on political opponents.


Re-read what you wrote. Hillary was in the foreign pockets. Uranium One, anyone? The steel Dossier, who paid for it? Go ahead and tell me how the GoP did it. I know a lot of voters that don't usually vote that are coming out to slap the democrats running for office.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01 ... on-results

The REPUBLICAN led investigations of Hillary found nothing. Again.

Stop deflecting. McConnell is in charge of the Senate. The Senate, according to our Constitution (which Republicans keep saying they love and respect) says the actual trial must be held in the Senate. A trial. Evidence, witnesses, subpoenas, the whole thing. Yes, McConnell and Graham have both said they will consult with the White House, the accused.

This is like the jury foreman and alternate foreman telling the judge of the Manson trial they will consult with Manson.

Republicans wanted witnesses and claimed (falsely) they were not allowed to question those under oath during the committee hearings. Here is their chance. If the Senate were to hold an actual and real trial, Republicans would be able to call witnesses and question those under oath.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:12 pm
by ER757
extender wrote:
Fair trial? That is hilarious. Schiff made a mockery of Congress with his kangaroo court. If your hatred of Trump runs so deep as to impeach at any cost, you are no better than what you accuse him to be.

With McConnell stating outright that there is zero chance of Trump being removed from office and that he is personally co-ordinating with the White House, the thought of a "fair trial" is hilarious - you are correct in that assessment, but not for the reason you state

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:27 pm
by casinterest
extender wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Low life do nothing GOP members that are selling out our country to foreign nations for dirt on political opponents.


Re-read what you wrote. Hillary was in the foreign pockets. Uranium One, anyone? The steel Dossier, who paid for it? Go ahead and tell me how the GoP did it. I know a lot of voters that don't usually vote that are coming out to slap the democrats running for office.


Did you read the previous post today at all ? The DOJ found no issues after 2 years of investigating the Clinton Foundation and Hillary. Uranium one is just a right wing lie for all the brain dead folks that turn into Fox news at night.

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:32 pm
by AirWorthy99
seb146 wrote:
extender wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Low life do nothing GOP members that are selling out our country to foreign nations for dirt on political opponents.


Re-read what you wrote. Hillary was in the foreign pockets. Uranium One, anyone? The steel Dossier, who paid for it? Go ahead and tell me how the GoP did it. I know a lot of voters that don't usually vote that are coming out to slap the democrats running for office.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01 ... on-results

The REPUBLICAN led investigations of Hillary found nothing. Again.

Stop deflecting. McConnell is in charge of the Senate. The Senate, according to our Constitution (which Republicans keep saying they love and respect) says the actual trial must be held in the Senate. A trial. Evidence, witnesses, subpoenas, the whole thing. Yes, McConnell and Graham have both said they will consult with the White House, the accused.

This is like the jury foreman and alternate foreman telling the judge of the Manson trial they will consult with Manson.

Republicans wanted witnesses and claimed (falsely) they were not allowed to question those under oath during the committee hearings. Here is their chance. If the Senate were to hold an actual and real trial, Republicans would be able to call witnesses and question those under oath.


So would Warren, Sanders, and the rest of the senators who already said Trump was guilty even BEFORE the house passed the impeachment articles, should they recuse too?

This is a political exercise, lets be honest, the Democrats failed to actually move the needle here with actual evidence because of their rush to impeach was evident. No subpoenas because they feared the delay till Election season was coming to haunt them, and two very weak articles of impeachment, their vagueness is amazing. Good luck with that. The electorate looks to be the same as before impeachment, in fact I would dare say that Trump supporters are more energized than ever. Total mistake on Pelosi and now she wants to command the Senate, it appears she has surrendered and will transmit them by next week. Lets waive the white flag, of course after Democratic senators just wanted to get on with it long ago, she thought she had leverage. What a waste!

This will tremendously backfire on them by November this year!

Re: The Impeachment Hearings

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:45 pm
by casinterest
AirWorthy99 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
extender wrote:

Re-read what you wrote. Hillary was in the foreign pockets. Uranium One, anyone? The steel Dossier, who paid for it? Go ahead and tell me how the GoP did it. I know a lot of voters that don't usually vote that are coming out to slap the democrats running for office.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01 ... on-results

The REPUBLICAN led investigations of Hillary found nothing. Again.

Stop deflecting. McConnell is in charge of the Senate. The Senate, according to our Constitution (which Republicans keep saying they love and respect) says the actual trial must be held in the Senate. A trial. Evidence, witnesses, subpoenas, the whole thing. Yes, McConnell and Graham have both said they will consult with the White House, the accused.

This is like the jury foreman and alternate foreman telling the judge of the Manson trial they will consult with Manson.

Republicans wanted witnesses and claimed (falsely) they were not allowed to question those under oath during the committee hearings. Here is their chance. If the Senate were to hold an actual and real trial, Republicans would be able to call witnesses and question those under oath.


So would Warren, Sanders, and the rest of the senators who already said Trump was guilty even BEFORE the house passed the impeachment articles, should they recuse too?

This is a political exercise, lets be honest, the Democrats failed to actually move the needle here with actual evidence because of their rush to impeach was evident. No subpoenas because they feared the delay till Election season was coming to haunt them, and two very weak articles of impeachment, their vagueness is amazing. Good luck with that. The electorate looks to be the same as before impeachment, in fact I would dare say that Trump supporters are more energized than ever. Total mistake on Pelosi and now she wants to command the Senate, it appears she has surrendered and will transmit them by next week. Lets waive the white flag, of course after Democratic senators just wanted to get on with it long ago, she thought she had leverage. What a waste!

This will tremendously backfire on them by November this year!


So I see VT has a new profile. Lots of misleading info in this post.

All those Senators accused Trump of impropriety because they are smart enough to recognize it. Unlike most of the knuckle-draggers on the GOP side.
The only thing political about it is the fact that the GOP depends on too much money to actually find fault with one of their own. They are under the influence of the money handlers and Right wing Media that can find any and every unsubstantiated lie to incriminate Barack ,Biden, or Hillary. However when an actual whistle-blower lays down a credible report, they all stick their head under their desks, and cry fake.

The GOP will find a painful re-election campaign this year if they continue to pray for election funding. The Ad runs are going to be humiliating for them.