Re: Honestly, what is going on with California?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:34 pm
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GalaxyFlyer wrote:There’s an old aphorism, “keep doing what you’ve been doing, you’ll keep getting what you’ve been getting.”
Well, the welfare state keeps subsidizing poverty, keeps dumbing down education thru the corrupt bargain with teacher’s unions, keeps making poverty better than work and don’t understand why the stats don’t change. Genuinely deserving poor like the mentally ill, drug abusers or uneducated deserve help, but the price is changing course not blaming others.
MaverickM11 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:There’s an old aphorism, “keep doing what you’ve been doing, you’ll keep getting what you’ve been getting.”
Well, the welfare state keeps subsidizing poverty, keeps dumbing down education thru the corrupt bargain with teacher’s unions, keeps making poverty better than work and don’t understand why the stats don’t change. Genuinely deserving poor like the mentally ill, drug abusers or uneducated deserve help, but the price is changing course not blaming others.
You realize California is the largest IT, entertainment, and agricultural economy in the country, if not the world? What is the bible belt up to these days?
GalaxyFlyer wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:There’s an old aphorism, “keep doing what you’ve been doing, you’ll keep getting what you’ve been getting.”
Well, the welfare state keeps subsidizing poverty, keeps dumbing down education thru the corrupt bargain with teacher’s unions, keeps making poverty better than work and don’t understand why the stats don’t change. Genuinely deserving poor like the mentally ill, drug abusers or uneducated deserve help, but the price is changing course not blaming others.
You realize California is the largest IT, entertainment, and agricultural economy in the country, if not the world? What is the bible belt up to these days?
Cali is all that AND highest poverty and homeless rates, worst small business climates, worst schools, highest unfounded government liabilities.
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GalaxyFlyer wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:There’s an old aphorism, “keep doing what you’ve been doing, you’ll keep getting what you’ve been getting.”
Well, the welfare state keeps subsidizing poverty, keeps dumbing down education thru the corrupt bargain with teacher’s unions, keeps making poverty better than work and don’t understand why the stats don’t change. Genuinely deserving poor like the mentally ill, drug abusers or uneducated deserve help, but the price is changing course not blaming others.
You realize California is the largest IT, entertainment, and agricultural economy in the country, if not the world? What is the bible belt up to these days?
Cali is all that AND highest poverty and homeless rates.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
Aaron747 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
All the nice places in the greater Bay Area, and your brother’s family lives in the city? The problem is theirs. SF lost its status as a good place for families in the 1970s - everyone from NorCal knows that.
And no, not a single person I grew up around in the South Bay calls it ‘Cali’, LOL ffs
winginit wrote:Aaron747 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
All the nice places in the greater Bay Area, and your brother’s family lives in the city? The problem is theirs. SF lost its status as a good place for families in the 1970s - everyone from NorCal knows that.
And no, not a single person I grew up around in the South Bay calls it ‘Cali’, LOL ffs
Los Angeles checking in. No one calls it Cali. Numerous . articles have been written on the subject.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
DL717 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
Absolutely clueless about the state - but that figures since CA is more akin to a country and that may be beyond your reach. Like any large, mature economy, CA is both diverse and highly segmented. One look at the state’s small business profile will show you a robust environment employing nearly half of the state, with a strong concentration in non- metropolitan areas. The dichotomy you describe is reality only in Beverly Hills, Palo Alto, 90290-90026 LA or 94121-94111 SF city.
https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files ... les-CA.pdf
Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:I was there for a week, two weeks ago, my brother and his family live there. I visit several times a year. I’ve been in the state probably six times a year for the past 25 years. It’s “Cali”, even to many residents. My brother’s family would agree and hate what SFO has become. Niece even says it was the only place she was scared and she’s lived in NYC, DC, Mexico and much of the world.
Politfact Cali would disagree,
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
GF
Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
Absolutely clueless about the state - but that figures since CA is more akin to a country and that may be beyond your reach. Like any large, mature economy, CA is both diverse and highly segmented. One look at the state’s small business profile will show you a robust environment employing nearly half of the state, with a strong concentration in non- metropolitan areas. The dichotomy you describe is reality only in Beverly Hills, Palo Alto, 90290-90026 LA or 94121-94111 SF city.
https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files ... les-CA.pdf
winginit wrote:Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:
Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
Absolutely clueless about the state - but that figures since CA is more akin to a country and that may be beyond your reach. Like any large, mature economy, CA is both diverse and highly segmented. One look at the state’s small business profile will show you a robust environment employing nearly half of the state, with a strong concentration in non- metropolitan areas. The dichotomy you describe is reality only in Beverly Hills, Palo Alto, 90290-90026 LA or 94121-94111 SF city.
https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files ... les-CA.pdf
Great post.
So much ignorance in this thread - likely manifested jealousy as well. Enjoy your winters!
DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:
Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
Absolutely clueless about the state - but that figures since CA is more akin to a country and that may be beyond your reach. Like any large, mature economy, CA is both diverse and highly segmented. One look at the state’s small business profile will show you a robust environment employing nearly half of the state, with a strong concentration in non- metropolitan areas. The dichotomy you describe is reality only in Beverly Hills, Palo Alto, 90290-90026 LA or 94121-94111 SF city.
https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files ... les-CA.pdf
No need to be so defensive.
Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:
Absolutely clueless about the state - but that figures since CA is more akin to a country and that may be beyond your reach. Like any large, mature economy, CA is both diverse and highly segmented. One look at the state’s small business profile will show you a robust environment employing nearly half of the state, with a strong concentration in non- metropolitan areas. The dichotomy you describe is reality only in Beverly Hills, Palo Alto, 90290-90026 LA or 94121-94111 SF city.
https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files ... les-CA.pdf
No need to be so defensive.
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:
No need to be so defensive.
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
Spent half my life there. Enjoy the mess.
DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:
No need to be so defensive.
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
Spent half my life there. Enjoy the mess.
Aaron747 wrote:
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
DL717 wrote:Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
mham001 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
Speaking of "impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality" (wrapped up in a sophomoric diversion tactic), everything he said about one-party, two class state is FACTUALLY correct, your diversion to small business statistics notwithstanding (48% NATIONWIDE are employed by small business). A simple search 'middle class california' provides ample documentation of the middle class exodus (and Americans in general). Raise taxes and fees some more - it affects the middle class the hardest. The meager population growth last year is only supported by birthrates and immigrants - 55% of whom land on public assistance.
Regulations also hurt, for one example, the move to make every conceivable occupation State "licensed" hurts the less educated and lower classes the hardest. I myself could not have had my 5-star business of the last 30 years based on the state license requirements of today, for example. Meanwhile, California ignored the call for welfare reform in the 90's and 00's, which turned other poverty states around and State politicians publicly invite illegals with nothing, to come for state support. These are exactly the kind of policies that have created the homeless and poverty situation today.
Unfortunately for middle-class Californians, everything in this post is indeed factually correct. California- the most impoverished state in America.DL717 wrote:Well on their way to becoming a single party, two class state. There will be nothing but the uber rich and impoverished servants in about 20 years. Sounds like a fantastic place to build a future.
Aaron747 wrote:In your long reply, you completely diverted into welfare policy, who and what benefits, and onerous taxes - totally ignoring the original context: that claiming there are only ‘uber rich and servants’ is false. That is simple not the reality statewide given the diversity of markets and experiences statewide, and is demonstrably true only in the places and zip codes provided. Sorry facts got in the way of your biases.
Every CA resident has issues with taxation and licensure requirements, and the latter already has reform organizations lobbying Sacto hard for change. Middle class impacts in the metro Bay and LA are made difficult by taxes and housing cost, yes, but retooling is possible and smart people who saw writing on the wall took care of themselves long ago.
mham001 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:In your long reply, you completely diverted into welfare policy, who and what benefits, and onerous taxes - totally ignoring the original context: that claiming there are only ‘uber rich and servants’ is false. That is simple not the reality statewide given the diversity of markets and experiences statewide, and is demonstrably true only in the places and zip codes provided. Sorry facts got in the way of your biases.
Every CA resident has issues with taxation and licensure requirements, and the latter already has reform organizations lobbying Sacto hard for change. Middle class impacts in the metro Bay and LA are made difficult by taxes and housing cost, yes, but retooling is possible and smart people who saw writing on the wall took care of themselves long ago.
Yea, except HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. Reading comprehension is key.
And you are right about smart people see the the writing on the wall and will take care of themselves, that is why the middle class is LEAVING.
Aaron747 wrote:mham001 wrote:[The reading comprehension failure is yours - he said that’s all there would be in 20 years and it’s patently false based on ANY available data now as I demonstrated. Out of 50 or so people I have kept in touch with since HS only seven are living out of state - either because they went to east coast universities and still work there or due to marriage and other factors. Not a single whiner in the bunch - check yourself before you wreck yo’self! Maybe instead of whining, you should try your luck somewhere cheap like UT or TX?
mham001 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:mham001 wrote:[The reading comprehension failure is yours - he said that’s all there would be in 20 years and it’s patently false based on ANY available data now as I demonstrated. Out of 50 or so people I have kept in touch with since HS only seven are living out of state - either because they went to east coast universities and still work there or due to marriage and other factors. Not a single whiner in the bunch - check yourself before you wreck yo’self! Maybe instead of whining, you should try your luck somewhere cheap like UT or TX?
I see. Your experience with 50 or so people is more accurate than US Census and commercially available data trend lines. Got it. Ok, glad that's settled.
winginit wrote:DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
Spent half my life there. Enjoy the mess.
As someone who thinks we're in the biblical end times it's shocking you didn't last...
Sorry you couldn't afford it.
DL717 wrote:winginit wrote:DL717 wrote:
Spent half my life there. Enjoy the mess.
As someone who thinks we're in the biblical end times it's shocking you didn't last...
Sorry you couldn't afford it.
Couldn’t afford what? Picking up the tab on California waste? Why would anyone flush their money down the toilet like that? Pure stupid.
mham001 wrote:[/quote]Aaron747 wrote:mham001 wrote:
I see. Your experience with 50 or so people is more accurate than US Census and commercially available data trend lines. Got it. Ok, glad that's settled.
Cite the census data and trend lines showing the state will become a two-tier income stream between uber rich and ‘servant’ poor in 20 years. This oughta be good. He acts like some of us didn’t study and make a living at data science
Some interesting data here - people leaving ‘unaffordable’ areas are being replaced by wealthy individuals and families from other states. There is an ongoing out-migration of middle class folks who are leaving CA for places less liberal or more tax friendly - that is not in dispute.
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi- ... ?_amp=true
Right. So you don't dispute the long-term trend. Progress. How you think that will all end? Will it be 21 years instead, making you RIGHT about something? Or 22? Or do you consider all this a good thing we should all be happy about?
BTW, it is well documented that 40% (and trending UP - San Jose Mercury News) want to leave Silicon Valley. Not necessarily California, but if you want data, that has to embarrass any civic leader.Aaron747 wrote:He acts like some of us didn’t study and make a living at data science
Aaron747 wrote:
Cite the census data and trend lines showing the state will become a two-tier income stream between uber rich and ‘servant’ poor in 20 years. This oughta be good. He acts like some of us didn’t study and make a living at data science
Some interesting data here - people leaving ‘unaffordable’ areas are being replaced by wealthy individuals and families from other states. There is an ongoing out-migration of middle class folks who are leaving CA for places less liberal or more tax friendly - that is not in dispute.
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi- ... ?_amp=true
Aaron747 wrote:He acts like some of us didn’t study and make a living at data science
mham001 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:mham001 wrote:
I see. Your experience with 50 or so people is more accurate than US Census and commercially available data trend lines. Got it. Ok, glad that's settled.
Cite the census data and trend lines showing the state will become a two-tier income stream between uber rich and ‘servant’ poor in 20 years. This oughta be good. He acts like some of us didn’t study and make a living at data science
Some interesting data here - people leaving ‘unaffordable’ areas are being replaced by wealthy individuals and families from other states. There is an ongoing out-migration of middle class folks who are leaving CA for places less liberal or more tax friendly - that is not in dispute.
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi- ... ?_amp=true
Right. So you don't dispute the long-term trend. How you think that will all end? Will it be 21 years instead, making you RIGHT about something? Or 22? Or do you consider all this a good thing we should all be happy about?
BTW, it is well documented that 40% (and trending UP - San Jose Mercury News) want to leave Silicon Valley. Not necessarily California, but if you want data, that has to embarrass any civic leader.
mham001 wrote:That's pretty rich, as you continue to use your analogies as data points in the discussion.
Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:winginit wrote:
As someone who thinks we're in the biblical end times it's shocking you didn't last...
Sorry you couldn't afford it.
Couldn’t afford what? Picking up the tab on California waste? Why would anyone flush their money down the toilet like that? Pure stupid.
Plenty of hard-working folks who have set up comfortable lives for themselves in CA don’t see it that way. Oh wellz for you. This all just sounds like you’re in this sour grapes patch:
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ?_amp=true
DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:
Couldn’t afford what? Picking up the tab on California waste? Why would anyone flush their money down the toilet like that? Pure stupid.
Plenty of hard-working folks who have set up comfortable lives for themselves in CA don’t see it that way. Oh wellz for you. This all just sounds like you’re in this sour grapes patch:
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ?_amp=true
Sour grapes? Amusing. There’s more to life than living 20 feet or less from your neighbor.
wingman wrote:Man, that is some of the most beautiful country I’ve ever seen. Mountains, surfing, horses, wine, great food, open land, diversity out your eyeballs, tolerance, a booming economy borne of the land and tourism, and even churches and hunting f it suits your lifestyle. When you stop and think about it counting up the places in this world with that combination of qualities you could probably count on one hand. You chose well son. I could go between there and Japan the rest of my life and be as content as any person on Earth.
seb146 wrote:...
This whole right wing notion of "everything in California is evil" really needs to stop. Until you (pl) have lived there, until you (pl) understand that each of the 50 states have their own needs, the whole notion of "leave California behind because they are 'liberal'" is a joke. Just stop it.
sccutler wrote:seb146 wrote:...
This whole right wing notion of "everything in California is evil" really needs to stop. Until you (pl) have lived there, until you (pl) understand that each of the 50 states have their own needs, the whole notion of "leave California behind because they are 'liberal'" is a joke. Just stop it.
I suppose there may be someone who believes "everything" in California is evil - but I haven't met him or her yet.
I had the pleasure of living in California for a while some years back - loved it. Never intended to stay forever - and didn't - but l left for a career change, not to "get away" from anything.
That said, I doubt I'd have stayed long-term, because the politics, and their intrusive impact on many aspects of everyday life, have become fairly extreme for my tastes. But, I miss the superior quality of the fresh fruit and vegetables we got there every day, and there are days in the Texas summer when the bland SoCal weather sounds appealing.
seb146 wrote:[This whole right wing notion of "everything in California is evil" really needs to stop. Until you (pl) have lived there, until you (pl) understand that each of the 50 states have their own needs, the whole notion of "leave California behind because they are 'liberal'" is a joke. Just stop it.
Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:
Correcting your impetuous falsehoods and alternative reality with facts. Your motivations are irrelevant.
Spent half my life there. Enjoy the mess.
Sounds like the problem is yours. My family and friends are all safe and comfortable with no plans to leave. The next generation is fine too - two of my cousins are RNs, another is a marketing director at Salesforce in SF, another has an auto repair shop and another is an OBGYN at UCSF - she just married a guy from MT who she met in med school and he loves CA. So again, your simplistic narratives are psychological projection at best, and lies at worst.
BN747 wrote:seb146 wrote:[This whole right wing notion of "everything in California is evil" really needs to stop. Until you (pl) have lived there, until you (pl) understand that each of the 50 states have their own needs, the whole notion of "leave California behind because they are 'liberal'" is a joke. Just stop it.
No, it doesn't need to stop...ignorance is legal and some people like hanging on to theirs.
It would certainly be nice if 'those types' would rise from the ignorance pool...but they won't, but instead will past it on from generation to the next.
It's kinda good those false assessments & analogies exist...or all of them would be here too!Aaron747 wrote:DL717 wrote:
Spent half my life there. Enjoy the mess.
Sounds like the problem is yours. My family and friends are all safe and comfortable with no plans to leave. The next generation is fine too - two of my cousins are RNs, another is a marketing director at Salesforce in SF, another has an auto repair shop and another is an OBGYN at UCSF - she just married a guy from MT who she met in med school and he loves CA. So again, your simplistic narratives are psychological projection at best, and lies at worst.
Yeah, I think he wasted all that time here instead on engineering some type of successful business venture.
..and you are correct, the only residents spewing 'Cali' from their lips are the most clueless and usually live in Riverside, Bakersfield or some cookie cutter housing community, you do not hear people from Malibu down to Palos Verdes uttering 'Cali' anything. It's just not done. Those who are 'tuned in' know it and done need to utter this flimsy nickname unless you're selling a rap album in which case booty call references and bling take up the rest of 'lyrics'...
BN747
SL1200MK2 wrote:BN747 wrote:seb146 wrote:[This whole right wing notion of "everything in California is evil" really needs to stop. Until you (pl) have lived there, until you (pl) understand that each of the 50 states have their own needs, the whole notion of "leave California behind because they are 'liberal'" is a joke. Just stop it.
No, it doesn't need to stop...ignorance is legal and some people like hanging on to theirs.
It would certainly be nice if 'those types' would rise from the ignorance pool...but they won't, but instead will past it on from generation to the next.
It's kinda good those false assessments & analogies exist...or all of them would be here too!Aaron747 wrote:
Sounds like the problem is yours. My family and friends are all safe and comfortable with no plans to leave. The next generation is fine too - two of my cousins are RNs, another is a marketing director at Salesforce in SF, another has an auto repair shop and another is an OBGYN at UCSF - she just married a guy from MT who she met in med school and he loves CA. So again, your simplistic narratives are psychological projection at best, and lies at worst.
Yeah, I think he wasted all that time here instead on engineering some type of successful business venture.
..and you are correct, the only residents spewing 'Cali' from their lips are the most clueless and usually live in Riverside, Bakersfield or some cookie cutter housing community, you do not hear people from Malibu down to Palos Verdes uttering 'Cali' anything. It's just not done. Those who are 'tuned in' know it and done need to utter this flimsy nickname unless you're selling a rap album in which case booty call references and bling take up the rest of 'lyrics'...
BN747
I would like to point out, however that LL Cool J does have license to use the word “Cali”, if only for that one song. Thank you sir.
San Francisco here - Lower Pac Heights
BN747 wrote:SL1200MK2 wrote:BN747 wrote:
No, it doesn't need to stop...ignorance is legal and some people like hanging on to theirs.
It would certainly be nice if 'those types' would rise from the ignorance pool...but they won't, but instead will past it on from generation to the next.
It's kinda good those false assessments & analogies exist...or all of them would be here too!
Yeah, I think he wasted all that time here instead on engineering some type of successful business venture.
..and you are correct, the only residents spewing 'Cali' from their lips are the most clueless and usually live in Riverside, Bakersfield or some cookie cutter housing community, you do not hear people from Malibu down to Palos Verdes uttering 'Cali' anything. It's just not done. Those who are 'tuned in' know it and done need to utter this flimsy nickname unless you're selling a rap album in which case booty call references and bling take up the rest of 'lyrics'...
BN747
I would like to point out, however that LL Cool J does have license to use the word “Cali”, if only for that one song. Thank you sir.
San Francisco here - Lower Pac Heights
When I said ''tuned in' know it and done need to utter this flimsy nickname unless you're selling a rap album in which case booty call references and bling take up the rest of 'lyrics'...
..that rendered your reply, redundant.
BN747