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Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:41 am
by sonicruiser
Pretty damning report, took me a while to get through all of it. I'll let the article speak for itself.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019 ... odis-india

Re: Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:01 am
by Francoflier
You don't have to be very smart to realize that what he's done will not end well.

He's basically created resentment and anger among a large group of people in a poor and highly religious region... I don't think anyone needs a drawing to understand what that will lead to eventually.

But so it goes with the current populist/nationalistic political trends around the World. The goal is to create anger and division for political brownie points. Anger makes people go the voting booths.

Re: Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:25 am
by BawliBooch
A once thriving liberal democracy has fallen to fascism. The West is just waking up to the dangers posed by Hindutva fascism.

Not a day too soon.

Re: Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:33 am
by alfa164
BawliBooch wrote:
A once thriving liberal democracy has fallen to fascism. The West is just waking up to the dangers posed by Hindutva fascism. Not a day too soon.


:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: This. What politicians claim is "populism" is actually a cynical movement to pit "them" against "us", and it has taken off not only among the uneducated and naive voters of these countries, but, in many cases, more sophisticated abut frustrated and/or resentful classes.

Witness the sowing of division, all for political gain, by the current "leaders" of India, the Philippines, Poland, Italy - and more almost fascist parties in Europe - not to mention in the USA itself. It is a deranged attempt to turn back the clock, but, at least temporarily, it seems to be working. We can only hope the damage can be repaired when people come to their senses.

Re: Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:41 pm
by frmrCapCadet
Running a democratic government in a modern technological environment is hard. And expensive. It is appearing people will not pay the price. The alternative is atavistic nationalism which always leads to war and domination/exploitation of the masses by the increasingly small numbers of the elite. Welcome to our new world.

Re: Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:51 am
by unrave
The best retort to this rant is of course produced by Abhijit Iyer Mitra
https://theprint.in/opinion/in-rana-ayy ... oy/331730/

Basically Rana Ayyub is the modern day version of Arundhati Roy. "Every few years, the Western world seeks out, creates and builds bard of brown world’s pain"

Re: Scathing article in The New Yorker: Blood and Soil in Narendra Modi’s India

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:29 pm
by ElPistolero
unrave wrote:
The best retort to this rant is of course produced by Abhijit Iyer Mitra
https://theprint.in/opinion/in-rana-ayy ... oy/331730/

Basically Rana Ayyub is the modern day version of Arundhati Roy. "Every few years, the Western world seeks out, creates and builds bard of brown world’s pain"


If that’s the best retort you lot can muster up, then India has a serious lack of intellectual caliber. Guess all the smart ones have either left, or agree with Filkins and are sitting this one out quietly.

There’s ad hominem and there’s absurd ad hominem. This article manages to take absurd ad hominem to the next level. The author of the original article is attacked for ...wait for it... having the temerity to be white. What a crime. This overt racism is best characterized by this absurd line: “the white disdain for local government....”.Huh? If a white journalist had written about “brown disdain” for local government in the US... yeah. (Notwithstanding the obvious brown BJP disdain for local INC governments and vice versa).

Rana Ayyoub, whoever she is, is dragged over similar coal. Her worldview is obviously affected by Mumbai and Godhra, but that’s just mentioned in passing. Nothing to see there. No questions asked about what that might do to someone. Instead she’s depicted as a liar without any evidence. Not that the intellectual vacuity ends there. To illustrate his reasoning for calling her a liar, the author asks: Where are the photos of police shooting victims? Good question. When was the last time you saw a photo of a police shooting victim in a hospital bed published in any US, Canadian or British publication? There’s this (apparently alien to some Indians) concept of privacy and human decency and dignity that’s taken hold in the west.

The rest of the article is equally weak. It has all the markings of an inferiority complex, where frank observations must have some nefarious motivation or subtext. I’m sure some smart Indian will write a proper retort to Filkins article. I look forward to it. Nothing like a a good debate. But this article isn’t it. This article just demonstrates the lack of intellectual caliber and honesty doing the rounds in the segment of India that’s stuck with an inferiority complex driven siege mentality.