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Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:20 am

What exactly is traffic congestion in Austin, Texas like currently compared to Dallas or Houston. I have heard in some cases Austin traffic is actually worse than Houston or Dallas. I also know that Austin has expanded from a college town in the 1980's to a world class city today with enormous population growth.
 
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:43 pm

Yes, Austin traffic suck. Comparing it to DFW/Houston is apples and oranges, though.

For example, in Houston you got megafreeways with 5-6 lanes each direction and the roads still managed to be congested. Meanwhile, I-35 is congested especially near downtown Austin only b/c it's still 3-4 lanes per direction, and never expanded for 15 years (It's still the same road as it was in 2005...). Congestion in Austin was, and still is, limited to the 10 mile stretch between SR-71 and US-183 anyway - just b/c Austin itself is just a lot more compact (geographically) compare to the infinite sprawl of Houston and DFW.
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:12 pm

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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:24 am

Back in June it Austin, Texas has been named one of the most traffic congested city in the world. I feel like it will get worst since it is December.
 
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:58 pm

DFW is more or less predictable in congestion--the major freeways back up in basically the same places and directions during the rush hour(s). Austin is completely unpredictable--complete stop at 2 AM, sailing along at 5 PM. The addition of the toll roads in Austin has helped somewhat, if you're willing to pay. The natives appear to be boycotting them so they're mostly deserted.

Austin is projected to grow to 4.5 million people by 2040. I imagine some people will just live in their cars, stuck in traffic.
 
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:50 pm

TangoandCash wrote:
DFW is more or less predictable in congestion--the major freeways back up in basically the same places and directions during the rush hour(s). Austin is completely unpredictable--complete stop at 2 AM, sailing along at 5 PM. The addition of the toll roads in Austin has helped somewhat, if you're willing to pay. The natives appear to be boycotting them so they're mostly deserted.


"Boycott" or not, other than the Mopac Toll Lanes, the toll roads are more or less useless for somebody actually living IN Austin. And unless you're heading out to Manor (on US-290) or up to Leander/Cedar Park (on US-183A) or far north Austin (The fully toll portion of Mopac), those toll roads are irrelevant to the daily life of many people. Then there's TX-130, which is meant to be use by people bypassing Austin anyway. The amount of development around TX-130 is minimal despite the heavy growth of Austin.

Compare this to DFW area. Heading to Addison or Frisco, TX? You use DNT, period. East-West on Northern Suburbs? Bush Turnpike. Both roads are congested for a reason.
Or Houston. The Western leg of BW-8 goes through multiple business district (Westchase, Memorial Area/Energy Corridor), and to no surprise, it's congested during rush hour. On the flip side there's Hardy Toll Road, which was built for years and is still underused b/c people in Woodlands would rather get stuck in traffic on I-45 North instead of paying tolls.
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:04 pm

No doubt, ATX traffic sucks!

Just meteoric growth that has completely outpaced any ability to build new roads (and even making urban planners difficult to plan and forecast). The tech sector has skyrocketed in one generation and made it damn near impossible to figure out. New airport that, until just recently, was having accessibility issues from 71 too.

Another factor is the geography of Austin; heading west from the city and following the Colorado, the topography makes "throwing up" a new freeway very challenging, not to mention property values. The northside has seen growth and some road construction to match, but any north/south conduit in Austin is just awful. Forget I-35.

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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:39 pm

History has shown that you can't build your way out of congestion with more highways/toll lanes. Austin should invest in alternative means of transportation much like Dallas has done and Houston is doing right now.
 
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:27 pm

cranberrysaus wrote:
History has shown that you can't build your way out of congestion with more highways/toll lanes. Austin should invest in alternative means of transportation much like Dallas has done and Houston is doing right now.


What alternative means in Houston would those be, precisely?

Light rail? No one rides it, and it connects little insofar as eliminating commuting traffic. Metro's Park & Ride system has existed for years (and does a damn good job, I might add). But Houston has no other alternatives that have shrunk traffic.

Given that DFW, Houston, and Austin are in the top 15 for nationwide population growth, there's little to do to proactively plan for traffic. You *can* grow your way out of it, but it does also take mass transit options, etc.
 
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:45 pm

Austin is not managing development well. When I visited I saw few bike lanes and was shocked there was no rail option from the airport to the city.

It felt very outdated in Austin. Houston and Dallas are not much better when it comes to roads and traffic though. Texas is not known for smart, green development. Eventually it will have an impact on the economy as climate change worsens.
 
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Re: Traffic Congestion in Austin, Texas

Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:45 pm

mrgrtt123 wrote:
Back in June it Austin, Texas has been named one of the most traffic congested city in the world. I feel like it will get worst since it is December.


Same definition of 'world' as in the 'world series of baseball'? Or does this one only cover Texas?
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