Cruise Ship / Ocean Liner Thread - 2020

SmithAir747 · Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:02 pm

My cruise coming up in a fortnight is Star Trek: The Cruise IV (1-8 March 2020). Star Trek: The Cruise, inaugurated in 2017, is a full-ship charter theme cruise for Trekkies, officially licensed by CBS, Paramount, and other entities associated with Star Trek. This cruise, a floating Star Trek convention sailing the Caribbean, has a more intimate feel (with over two dozen stars from the various Star Trek TV series and movies mingling with the passengers). The ship is redecorated inside with a Star Trek theme. This year, the host "captain" will be Star Trek Voyager's Captain Kathryn Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) and a large number of the Voyager cast, along with William Shatner, Michael Dorn, and others.

Unlike the previous three years where the cruise had been on a Norwegian Jewel-class ship, this year the cruise is on a Royal Caribbean Voyager-class ship, the Explorer of the Seas (the new contract, between RCCL and Entertainment Cruise Productions who run these cruises, will be for the next three years).

SmithAir747

johns624 · Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:44 pm

stl07 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
I just realized: my next cruise is exactly a year away. Going on Norwegian Jewel from Auckland to Sydney.

Be prepared for some rockiness when crossing from NZ to Aus. because the ocean is very rough over there. Just take some precautions and you will be good

It depends. We did it in January 2018 and the sea was like glass (not that I'm complaining...).

einsteinboricua · Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:56 pm

stl07 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
I just realized: my next cruise is exactly a year away. Going on Norwegian Jewel from Auckland to Sydney.

Be prepared for some rockiness when crossing from NZ to Aus. because the ocean is very rough over there. Just take some precautions and you will be good

I'm wary by the fact that it's a smaller ship. But my experience with the motion sickness patches was good so I plan to stock up on those for the voyage. And it'll be two days at worst. If I was able to get through rough seas during a transatlantic, I can make it here.

stl07 · Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:11 pm

johns624 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
I just realized: my next cruise is exactly a year away. Going on Norwegian Jewel from Auckland to Sydney.

Be prepared for some rockiness when crossing from NZ to Aus. because the ocean is very rough over there. Just take some precautions and you will be good
It depends. We did it in January 2018 and the sea was like glass (not that I'm complaining...).

Good to hear that it is good sometimes

OA260 · Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:21 pm

SmithAir747 wrote:
My cruise coming up in a fortnight is Star Trek: The Cruise IV (1-8 March 2020). Star Trek: The Cruise, inaugurated in 2017, is a full-ship charter theme cruise for Trekkies, officially licensed by CBS, Paramount, and other entities associated with Star Trek. This cruise, a floating Star Trek convention sailing the Caribbean, has a more intimate feel (with over two dozen stars from the various Star Trek TV series and movies mingling with the passengers). The ship is redecorated inside with a Star Trek theme. This year, the host "captain" will be Star Trek Voyager's Captain Kathryn Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) and a large number of the Voyager cast, along with William Shatner, Michael Dorn, and others.

Unlike the previous three years where the cruise had been on a Norwegian Jewel-class ship, this year the cruise is on a Royal Caribbean Voyager-class ship, the Explorer of the Seas (the new contract, between RCCL and Entertainment Cruise Productions who run these cruises, will be for the next three years).

SmithAir747

RCI Voyager class ships are quite nice. I did Voyager of the Seas TATL from Barcelona to Miami once and its still up there with one of best trips. Enjoy!

johns624 · Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:40 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
I'm wary by the fact that it's a smaller ship.

Smaller is a relative term. We've been on 5 NCL cruises, all on that class of ship. It feels like our home away from home now. We know where everything is.

einsteinboricua · Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:02 pm

johns624 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
I'm wary by the fact that it's a smaller ship.
Smaller is a relative term. We've been on 5 NCL cruises, all on that class of ship. It feels like our home away from home now. We know where everything is.

Compare the Jewel with Encore and yes...Jewel is smaller. Now it could be worse: I could be on the Sun or Sky...

johns624 · Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:52 pm

I've been on the Sun, Star (2), Pearl and Jewel. Not enough difference to really notice. Will be on the Star for the 3rd time in June.

ltbewr · Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:47 am

I would be very concerned about the affects of the Coronavirus on the cruise business, especially in Asia, for the rest of the year for passengers, crews and operators of the ships. For sure many will not want to be stuck on any cruise where they can get sick or in quarantine for weeks on a ship or evacuated to a military base or other isolation facility. Likely there will be huge discounts for a while on some cruises this year to get people on even after the current crises passes.

ArchGuy1 · Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:56 am

ltbewr wrote:
I would be very concerned about the affects of the Coronavirus on the cruise business, especially in Asia, for the rest of the year for passengers, crews and operators of the ships. For sure many will not want to be stuck on any cruise where they can get sick or in quarantine for weeks on a ship or evacuated to a military base or other isolation facility. Likely there will be huge discounts for a while on some cruises this year to get people on even after the current crises passes.

The Diamond Princess is in quarantine due to the coronavirus and the Westerdam was kept out of 5 countries before being allowed to dock in Cambodia.

ltbewr · Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:18 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
I would be very concerned about the affects of the Coronavirus on the cruise business, especially in Asia, for the rest of the year for passengers, crews and operators of the ships. For sure many will not want to be stuck on any cruise where they can get sick or in quarantine for weeks on a ship or evacuated to a military base or other isolation facility. Likely there will be huge discounts for a while on some cruises this year to get people on even after the current crises passes.

The Diamond Princess is in quarantine due to the coronavirus and the Westerdam was kept out of 5 countries before being allowed to dock in Cambodia.

Over the last 2 weeks, we saw a ship stuck at the dock in Bayonne, NJ (NY Harbor area) due to possible Coronavirus infections, Chinese nationals banned from boarding cruises, no port stops in China including Hong Kong, Macau & Taiwan.

ArchGuy1 · Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:35 am

The Costa Smeralda was christened in Savona, Italy by Penelope Cruz, who performed the traditional bottle breaking on the bow in the presence of the ship's master, Pablo Gemini yesterday. Italian multi started chef, Bruno Barbieri, who personally conceived and presented a special gala cocktail. The aromatic show "Dream" produced by Viktor Klee and set in the ship's theater. The ceremony also saw a fireworks display set off from a badge positioned in front of the Priamar Fortress, lighting up the sky of Savona and giving a fitting sendoff. It is a very exciting event for Costa's newest ship and attended by a number of high ranking people.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/crui ... avona.html

OA260 · Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:25 pm

Just back from the Virgin Voyages Scarlet Lady World Tour Event in Liverpool . Was not sure how I would enjoy it but the fact is I loved it. Really different and while there are a few small things I would change the cabins , public areas and ship generally impressed. The food was great and the crew were a great mix.

The event was flawlessly run. It was a great atmosphere in Liverpool and many locals came to look and take photos. Workers on their lunch breaks came out of offices. It generated a lot of interest.

A few pics from the event :

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I can certainly see the market for it . Time will tell how successful it will be. It is a bit of a marmite product you will either love it or hate it . For the younger client who never would have thought about a cruise it will certainly attract them. Those who are young at heart and want something different will also be suited to the brand.

jetwet1 · Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:59 pm

Thanks for the pictures.

I actually looked at booking a 3 suites for my next birthday on a 5 night trip. It turned out that Virgin are either selling this ship out way ahead or they have totally bumped their head. It was less expensive to fly us and 2 other couples out to Tahiti and do a week on the Paul Gaugin.

If they are getting the rates they are asking then they have hit it out of the park, but I really have to wonder how many last minute deals are going to start showing up.

DIRECTFLT · Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:18 pm

ltbewr wrote:
I would be very concerned about the affects of the Coronavirus on the cruise business, especially in Asia, for the rest of the year for passengers, crews and operators of the ships. For sure many will not want to be stuck on any cruise where they can get sick or in quarantine for weeks on a ship or evacuated to a military base or other isolation facility. Likely there will be huge discounts for a while on some cruises this year to get people on even after the current crises passes.

Cruise stocks extend losses, Royal Carribbean on track for longest losing streak in 17 years

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cruis ... 2020-02-26

From The Comments.... Good Advice...

My wife and I are frequent cruisers but usually on top tier smaller ships (600 or less passengers) ... we use periods of adverse news to purchase cruises ... buying the dips just like with the stock market ...

during the demise of the Costa Concordia we purchased 3 cruises 6 to 18 months into the future at substantial discounts ... in 6 months usually everything is forgotten ...I anticipate we will do the same thing again soon ... not quite enough discounting yet ... also, like the stock market, I want to see blood in the streets ...

a small top tier cruise ship is really no different than a highly rated 'boutique' hotel, it is just another way to travel and see the world ...I like to buy the dips when my charts say it is OK ... but ... I don't like Carnival's products so would never buy that stock ... we do like RCLs and will buy that stock when my charts give me the OK

einsteinboricua · Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:24 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Cruise stocks extend losses, Royal Carribbean on track for longest losing streak in 17 years

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cruis ... 2020-02-26

I'm wondering if I should do the same...maybe an Alaska cruise this summer and maybe another TATL/Repo cruise next year.

I'm still trying to be loyal to NCL but if the price is right with another cruise line, then away I go.

frmrCapCadet · Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:46 pm

Not all that afraid of the virus, but who wants to be quarantined for 14 day, who knows where, and no way to get home without another 14 days?

OA260 · Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:47 am

jetwet1 wrote:
Thanks for the pictures.

I actually looked at booking a 3 suites for my next birthday on a 5 night trip. It turned out that Virgin are either selling this ship out way ahead or they have totally bumped their head. It was less expensive to fly us and 2 other couples out to Tahiti and do a week on the Paul Gaugin.

If they are getting the rates they are asking then they have hit it out of the park, but I really have to wonder how many last minute deals are going to start showing up.

Welcome . I guess being the first ship they will milk it for all they can get just like other lines for example RCI and CEL. Some of their prices for the new ships are always pumped up. With the arrival of Valiant Lady prices should even out. I might do 2021 around the Med for a week with them. The Rockstar suites are around $6100 per suite. If your a big foodie you will love Virgin Voyages. Adults only is a big plus.

ArchGuy1 · Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:22 am

OA260 wrote:
Just back from the Virgin Voyages Scarlet Lady World Tour Event in Liverpool . Was not sure how I would enjoy it but the fact is I loved it. Really different and while there are a few small things I would change the cabins , public areas and ship generally impressed. The food was great and the crew were a great mix.

The event was flawlessly run. It was a great atmosphere in Liverpool and many locals came to look and take photos. Workers on their lunch breaks came out of offices. It generated a lot of interest.

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I can certainly see the market for it . Time will tell how successful it will be. It is a bit of a marmite product you will either love it or hate it . For the younger client who never would have thought about a cruise it will certainly attract them. Those who are young at heart and want something different will also be suited to the brand.

Did you attend the Scarlet Lady's christening as well.

OA260 · Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:14 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Just back from the Virgin Voyages Scarlet Lady World Tour Event in Liverpool . Was not sure how I would enjoy it but the fact is I loved it. Really different and while there are a few small things I would change the cabins , public areas and ship generally impressed. The food was great and the crew were a great mix.

The event was flawlessly run. It was a great atmosphere in Liverpool and many locals came to look and take photos. Workers on their lunch breaks came out of offices. It generated a lot of interest.

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I can certainly see the market for it . Time will tell how successful it will be. It is a bit of a marmite product you will either love it or hate it . For the younger client who never would have thought about a cruise it will certainly attract them. Those who are young at heart and want something different will also be suited to the brand.

Did you attend the Scarlet Lady's christening as well.

Despite some news reports incl by Fox News ! She will be Christened in Miami on 28th March so it has not happened yet. The UK tour was just a chance to show case the ship. The ship left Liverpool and is currently sailing to New York where it is due to arrive 6th March for more events. Some lucky families of those crew working onboard were offered tickets for Liverpool to New York for just $25 !

johns624 · Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:14 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:

I'm still trying to be loyal to NCL but if the price is right with another cruise line, then away I go.

Our 14 day Summer Solstice cruise on NCL was $2800 each for a Mini Suite.

OA260 · Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:14 pm

johns624 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:

I'm still trying to be loyal to NCL but if the price is right with another cruise line, then away I go.
Our 14 day Summer Solstice cruise on NCL was $2800 each for a Mini Suite.

If its for this Summer keep an eye on price drops ! NCL like other lines are starting to slash prices for some dates already. Bargains will be numerous especially in the European markets !

OA260 · Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:48 am

Virgin Voyages Cancels New York Introduction

Virgin Voyages has cancelled its March introduction events of the Scarlet Lady in New York and the ship will instead sail straight to Miami, its homeport.

Said Virgin in a prepared statement: “In light of the current news headlines, we want to ensure everyone feels it is the right time to celebrate with us. We understand people may want to focus on other things at the moment, so we have made the decision to reschedule our upcoming Showcase Tour stop and events in New York City. We plan to sail back to New York soon for you to visit her.

www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/ ... ction.html

tys777 · Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:00 pm

I have a Disney cruise scheduled for September. A 4 night out of SAN that goes to Cabo. Looking for something this summer on any cruise line with my wife, but will be limited to 4 night cruises most likely. Custody agreement with the ex doesnt lend itself well to personal vacations and limits availability.

I have some python code that pulls every cruise for every cruise line into a spreadsheet, and last time I did it, I had 5 cruises all year that fit into my schedule. Such a pain...

northstardc4m · Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:03 pm

tys777 wrote:
I have a Disney cruise scheduled for September. A 4 night out of SAN that goes to Cabo. Looking for something this summer on any cruise line with my wife, but will be limited to 4 night cruises most likely. Custody agreement with the ex doesnt lend itself well to personal vacations and limits availability.

I have some python code that pulls every cruise for every cruise line into a spreadsheet, and last time I did it, I had 5 cruises all year that fit into my schedule. Such a pain...

What database(s) or sites does your script run queries against just out of curiosity?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

tys777 · Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:11 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
tys777 wrote:
I have a Disney cruise scheduled for September. A 4 night out of SAN that goes to Cabo. Looking for something this summer on any cruise line with my wife, but will be limited to 4 night cruises most likely. Custody agreement with the ex doesnt lend itself well to personal vacations and limits availability.

I have some python code that pulls every cruise for every cruise line into a spreadsheet, and last time I did it, I had 5 cruises all year that fit into my schedule. Such a pain...
What database(s) or sites does your script run queries against just out of curiosity?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Cruise.affordabletours.com

They have a pretty clean back end code wise that is easy to mine. I dont care about prices, I literally want date, cruiseline, ship, destination, and embarkation location. I'm not price conscious (I am to an extent), but due to life I'm more date driven so it works for me. I then run some vba code in excel to parse everything down. Might seem like a lot of work, but when you are limited on availability, it saves you time parsing through various website.

I'll end the nerd talk now.

bananaboy · Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:34 pm

Great pics. Was also on in Liverpool.

I left feeling a bit underwhelmed tbh. Seem like they've concentrated on design and forgotten substance a bit. Pool area is tiny and cabins have some major design flaws. Having said that, I found the bed comfortable, loved the rainfall shower, couldn't fault the crew and the food was pretty good too. Loved the entertainment around the ship that seemed to appear out of nowhere too.

It will be interesting to see how it works in service and I wish them well. It's not for everyone but the se can be said of most ships. I sincerely hope the "a cruise is not for me" crowd become switched on to the possibility of a holiday at sea which they go on to repeat regularly.

OA260 wrote:
Just back from the Virgin Voyages Scarlet Lady World Tour Event in Liverpool . Was not sure how I would enjoy it but the fact is I loved it. Really different and while there are a few small things I would change the cabins , public areas and ship generally impressed. The food was great and the crew were a great mix.

The event was flawlessly run. It was a great atmosphere in Liverpool and many locals came to look and take photos. Workers on their lunch breaks came out of offices. It generated a lot of interest.

A few pics from the event :

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I can certainly see the market for it . Time will tell how successful it will be. It is a bit of a marmite product you will either love it or hate it . For the younger client who never would have thought about a cruise it will certainly attract them. Those who are young at heart and want something different will also be suited to the brand.

BravoOne · Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:03 pm

Princes Cruises just canceled all trips for the next 60 days, or through May 12. More to follow.

Dano1977 · Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:08 pm

I got a nice e-mail last night from P&O.

On top of the £500 on board spend when we booked, they have given us another £400 to go with it.

BravoOne · Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:28 pm

Dano1977 wrote:
I got a nice e-mail last night from P&O.

On top of the £500 on board spend when we booked, they have given us another £400 to go with it.

Where is your cruise departing from?

Dano1977 · Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:38 pm

BravoOne wrote:
Dano1977 wrote:
I got a nice e-mail last night from P&O.

On top of the £500 on board spend when we booked, they have given us another £400 to go with it.

Where is your cruise departing from?

Southampton

northstardc4m · Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:44 pm

Viking Cruises (River and Ocean) are also suspending until May 1st:

https://www.vikingrivercruisescanada.co ... ame=iossmf

OA260 · Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:44 pm

Wow just wow !!!

Florida attorney general investigating Norwegian Cruise Line for allegedly misleading customers over COVID-19 dangers

MIAMI – A major cruise line could be sailing into some hot water for allegedly downplaying the severity of COVID-19 to its customers.

On Monday, Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody announced an investigation into Norwegian after allegations were made that the cruise line was providing its sales force with inaccurate information and “one-liners to respond to customer concerns about COVID-19,” according to a release sent from the attorney general’s office.

Norwegian Cruise Line’s corporate headquarters is located in Miami.

According to the attorney general’s office, a whistleblower leaked emails to the media that show managers at MCL encouraged employees to downplay the risks associated with contracting COVID-19, using one-liners such as, “the coronavirus can only survive in cold temperatures, so the Caribbean is a fantastic choice for your next cruise,” and “the only thing you need to worry about for your cruise is do you have enough sunscreen.”

www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/24/f ... 9-dangers/

DL717 · Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:08 pm

Find your boat:

https://www.cruisemapper.com/

stl07 · Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:38 pm

DL717 wrote:
Find your boat:

https://www.cruisemapper.com/

Seems to be a lot of boats hanging out in the Miami/New Orleans/Los Angles area

OA260 · Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:12 pm

Head of MSC in Spain has died

Emiliano Gonzalez, president of MSC Spain, dies of coronavirus

The President of MSC Cruises in Spain he died at 69 years of agebecause of the coronavirus. Emiliano Gonzalez (Madrid, 1951) was named president of this company in 2017 and since then he has been its maximum representative in this country.

www.web24.news/u/2020/03/emiliano-gonza ... virus.html

ltbewr · Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:39 pm

Some on cruise ships have died:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/four- ... spartandhp

Cruise lines that are partially based in the USA are not getting any 'bailout' grants or loans in $2T plan as most operations and ships domiciled outside the USA and staff not USA citizens/residents.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/26/coronav ... lines.html

frmrCapCadet · Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:18 pm

Are the cruise ship support industry in various US ports eligible for help?

Jonathanxxxx · Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:04 pm

stl07 wrote:
DL717 wrote:
Find your boat:

https://www.cruisemapper.com/

Seems to be a lot of boats hanging out in the Miami/New Orleans/Los Angles area

The appearance of "ghost ships" along major ports in Florida has become common. I've been trying to find better documentation, but here are some videos off the coast of Miami Beach and Tampa showing multiple ships from Costa, MSC, Royal Caribbean, and Carnival anchored just outside the port. There also appears to be clusters of ships anchored around different points in the Bahamas, including Virgin's Scarlett Lady near Bimini. Notoriously crowded ports such as Cozumel, St. Maarten, and San Juan are basically empty. Seems the companies have moved their assets to the US and Bahamas.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-ULrFxHIZ1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.tampabay.com/news/transportation/2020/03/19/with-cruises-suspended-empty-ships-anchor-off-pinellas-coast/

ArchGuy1 · Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:40 pm

The Zaandam has finally docked in Port Everglades after a deal was reached with local authorities by Holland America. Conditions and protocols were put in place and the Rotterdam that was carrying healthy passengers from the Zaandam also docked in the same port. A nightmarish journey for many has come to an end.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... cna1174796

Pyrex · Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:53 am

Venezuelan Navy tries to hijack a cruise ship in the high seas, hilarity ensues.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas ... index.html

alberchico · Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:05 am

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... re-sinking

a video has been just released

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... orced-hull

OA260 · Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:36 am

Pyrex wrote:
Venezuelan Navy tries to hijack a cruise ship in the high seas, hilarity ensues.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas ... index.html

If they are going to play games like this maybe time to take out their navy ships!

johns624 · Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:12 pm

OA260 wrote:
Pyrex wrote:
Venezuelan Navy tries to hijack a cruise ship in the high seas, hilarity ensues.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas ... index.html

If they are going to play games like this maybe time to take out their navy ships!

Why bother? They seem to be doing a good job of doing it themselves!

Pyrex · Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:41 pm

johns624 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Pyrex wrote:
Venezuelan Navy tries to hijack a cruise ship in the high seas, hilarity ensues.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas ... index.html

If they are going to play games like this maybe time to take out their navy ships!

Why bother? They seem to be doing a good job of doing it themselves!

A ragtag group of pirates messes with the wrong ship, ends up hilariously clinging to the debris from their otherwise sunk ship wondering what just happened... It is like a scene from "Asterix" come to life. I wonder if this was just the Venezuelan Navy's way to pay hommage to Uderzo, who recently passed away?

zkojq · Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:28 pm

johns624 wrote:
I've been on the Sun, Star (2), Pearl and Jewel. Not enough difference to really notice. Will be on the Star for the 3rd time in June.

I was on the Pearl last year. Probably as larger ship as I'd want to be on. What are your thoughts of it compared to others.

frmrCapCadet wrote:
Not all that afraid of the virus, but who wants to be quarantined for 14 day, who knows where, and no way to get home without another 14 days?

Yeah I've been thinking a lot about that over the last month. I had a good cruise around the Baltic last year and I keep thinking how if the pandemic had happened last year, I could very well have been in a Diamond Princess kind of situation in St Petersburg/Riga. Not a pleasant thought.

ltbewr wrote:
Cruise lines that are partially based in the USA are not getting any 'bailout' grants or loans in $2T plan as most operations and ships domiciled outside the USA and staff not USA citizens/residents.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/26/coronav ... lines.html

Honestly, it serves them right for using flags of convenience and having terrible labour practices.

alberchico wrote:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32893/video-emerges-of-venezuelan-navy-ship-firing-on-and-colliding-with-cruise-ship-before-sinking

a video has been just released

That looks brutal. Hard to believe the Venezuelan claim that none of their sailors died. Meanwhile, looks like all the scars on the Resolute should buff out.

frmrCapCadet · Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:18 pm

My suspicion now is that Cruise Ship companies are going to have to come up with a plan for pandemics. In my home state here are possible requirements for the Alaska cruises. Respiratory and certain other disease symptoms must be monitored and reported to public health officials: Washington and Alaska states, British Columbia. Criteria for ending a cruise in the event of certain diseases, symptoms. A plan for how several thousand passengers and crew will be quarantined or isolated, fed and kept healthy. How will medical costs be taken care of. How will people be returned home, repatriated to home countries. Seattle and the state will be fully cooperative in coming up with the plan. It is unacceptable for us to tell a cruise ship they must simply sail in circles because we will not help them. We will, and there will be a plan.

Lloyds of London interested in providing insurance?!

johns624 · Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:50 pm

zkojq wrote:
johns624 wrote:
I've been on the Sun, Star (2), Pearl and Jewel. Not enough difference to really notice. Will be on the Star for the 3rd time in June.

I was on the Pearl last year. Probably as larger ship as I'd want to be on. What are your thoughts of it compared to others.

I've never been on any ships other than those. I went to Alaska before the megaships took over. My other cruises have been Baltic, Norway, Oz & NZ, and AMS-FCO, none are really high volume destinations. I like it that way. The Caribbean/Mexico have never interested me. I like history and scenery.

OA260 · Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:12 pm

Coronavirus: Black box seized from Ruby Princess ship at centre of Australia outbreak

The ship is the third belonging to Princess Cruises to find itself at the centre of a virus outbreak.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... k-11970925

einsteinboricua · Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:46 pm

I'm still on the lookout for NCL's opening of bookings for its first Leonardo ship, though given that it hasn't even been given a name and Covid-19 has brought cruising to a standstill, I'm wondering if this will be delayed for some months.

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