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northstardc4m wrote:Welp,
Carnival Ecstasy for me in about a month... Will be my smallest ship to date, though my wife has been on 2 other Fantasy Class ships.
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stl07 wrote:northstardc4m wrote:Welp,
Carnival Ecstasy for me in about a month... Will be my smallest ship to date, though my wife has been on 2 other Fantasy Class ships.
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Surprised they haven't renamed the ship
ArchGuy1 wrote:stl07 wrote:northstardc4m wrote:Welp,
Carnival Ecstasy for me in about a month... Will be my smallest ship to date, though my wife has been on 2 other Fantasy Class ships.
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Surprised they haven't renamed the ship
All the Fantasy class ships have not been renamed
stl07 wrote:ArchGuy1 wrote:stl07 wrote:Surprised they haven't renamed the ship
All the Fantasy class ships have not been renamed
Yes, but not every fantasy ship shares the name with an illegal substance
ArchGuy1 wrote:All the Fantasy class ships have not been renamed
ZKSUJ wrote:Hey guys. Thinking of looking into a first cruise in September for me and mu partner. We are both young adults (25 & 32) and were lookinb at a couple of options. Currently tossing up between MSC Seaside and Harmony of the Seas.
I'm intrigued by Harmony due to the shear amount of things to do; broadway shows, aqua theater etc to name a few and have read some not so good reviews on Seaside regarding staff service, activities and food quality. Anyone with any insight?
Seaside is severely discounted at the moment too which raises a few eye brows. Anyone with opinions and experiences on either would be mucn appreciated
ZKSUJ wrote:Hey guys. Thinking of looking into a first cruise in September for me and mu partner. We are both young adults (25 & 32) and were lookinb at a couple of options. Currently tossing up between MSC Seaside and Harmony of the Seas.
I'm intrigued by Harmony due to the shear amount of things to do; broadway shows, aqua theater etc to name a few and have read some not so good reviews on Seaside regarding staff service, activities and food quality. Anyone with any insight?
Seaside is severely discounted at the moment too which raises a few eye brows. Anyone with opinions and experiences on either would be mucn appreciated
dmg626 wrote:Here's a warning. I don't know if you're planning on going there, but my wife and I were waiting for the ferry at the USS Arizona Memorial and there was an Australian couple next to us. I don't remember the cruise line, but they had a lot of unhappy people. They had sold them the Memorial excursion but didn't have enough tickets (or time) for everyone to go out to the memorial. I would've been p*ssed because for me, that is the highlight of the cruise.Norwegian pride of America , Hawaiian cruise starting Saturday Jan 25, not a lot of time at sea, hits 5 ports.
johns624 wrote:dmg626 wrote:Here's a warning. I don't know if you're planning on going there, but my wife and I were waiting for the ferry at the USS Arizona Memorial and there was an Australian couple next to us. I don't remember the cruise line, but they had a lot of unhappy people. They had sold them the Memorial excursion but didn't have enough tickets (or time) for everyone to go out to the memorial. I would've been p*ssed because for me, that is the highlight of the cruise.Norwegian pride of America , Hawaiian cruise starting Saturday Jan 25, not a lot of time at sea, hits 5 ports.
Dano1977 wrote:Just booked my first cruise for 2020.
Going on the P&O Ventura, sailing from Southampton.
Visiting Maderia, La Palma, Tenerife, Lanzarote and Lisbon.
FGITD wrote:Accidentally colliding with and sinking another ship doesn't make it historically significant. A piece of interest, perhaps...but that's it.
If they could scrap a concorde, they can most certainly scrap this ship
ArchGuy1 wrote:FGITD wrote:Accidentally colliding with and sinking another ship doesn't make it historically significant. A piece of interest, perhaps...but that's it.
If they could scrap a concorde, they can most certainly scrap this ship
In addition to colliding with and sinking the Andrea Doria, the Astoria is the world's second oldest seagoing passenger ship in service and the last former passenger ship of the Swedish American Line in existence.
FGITD wrote:ArchGuy1 wrote:FGITD wrote:Accidentally colliding with and sinking another ship doesn't make it historically significant. A piece of interest, perhaps...but that's it.
If they could scrap a concorde, they can most certainly scrap this ship
In addition to colliding with and sinking the Andrea Doria, the Astoria is the world's second oldest seagoing passenger ship in service and the last former passenger ship of the Swedish American Line in existence.
But that's not enough of an appeal. You don't catch too many tourists boasting that they were staying on an old ship that was once the second oldest seagoing passenger ship (which of course becomes irrelevant once it's retired anyway) AND has the distinction of being the last Swedish American line ship.
The history of this ship would struggle to attract enough people to justify a single display case, let alone an entire museum ship.
northstardc4m wrote:Well a quick review of the Carnival Ecstasy:
Does not look it's age, no major wear seen on interiors, normal amounts of rust outside. Ship does not feel that small either though it doesn't have all the amenities of larger ships.
einsteinboricua wrote:northstardc4m wrote:Well a quick review of the Carnival Ecstasy:
Does not look it's age, no major wear seen on interiors, normal amounts of rust outside. Ship does not feel that small either though it doesn't have all the amenities of larger ships.
I was in San Juan a couple of weeks ago and passed Carnival Fascination. She has definitely seen better days. Her hull paint was rusted in several parts and to be honest, the modifications where they added balcony staterooms in the lower decks looks very sloppy.
einsteinboricua wrote:Well I don't know about the added balconies on the fantasy class being sloppy though look wise they are a bit different.We were in a midship suite with one this cruise and it was a great balcony, huge too. Didn't feel in the least sloppy from close up.northstardc4m wrote:Well a quick review of the Carnival Ecstasy:
Does not look it's age, no major wear seen on interiors, normal amounts of rust outside. Ship does not feel that small either though it doesn't have all the amenities of larger ships.
I was in San Juan a couple of weeks ago and passed Carnival Fascination. She has definitely seen better days. Her hull paint was rusted in several parts and to be honest, the modifications where they added balcony staterooms in the lower decks looks very sloppy.
ArchGuy1 wrote:What ship were you on in San Juan.
northstardc4m wrote:Well I don't know about the added balconies on the fantasy class being sloppy though look wise they are a bit different.
einsteinboricua wrote:ArchGuy1 wrote:What ship were you on in San Juan.
Kia Forte...nice ship. Very agile over land.
In other words, I was on the ground; I never said I was on a cruise.northstardc4m wrote:Well I don't know about the added balconies on the fantasy class being sloppy though look wise they are a bit different.
I guess I still remember the sleek look prior to the modifications and seeing the new balconies disrupts the look.
northstardc4m wrote:Yes, no balconies at all, great way to sell cabins... Carnival doesn't care about the look, and frankly looking at the solid wall of glass balconies that new cruise ships all have now is it any better?
einsteinboricua wrote:northstardc4m wrote:Yes, no balconies at all, great way to sell cabins... Carnival doesn't care about the look, and frankly looking at the solid wall of glass balconies that new cruise ships all have now is it any better?
The ships DO have balconies, but they weren't the best selling feature since they were obstructed by the lifeboats. Hence why they added balconies lower in the hull.
northstardc4m wrote:einsteinboricua wrote:northstardc4m wrote:Yes, no balconies at all, great way to sell cabins... Carnival doesn't care about the look, and frankly looking at the solid wall of glass balconies that new cruise ships all have now is it any better?
The ships DO have balconies, but they weren't the best selling feature since they were obstructed by the lifeboats. Hence why they added balconies lower in the hull.
You've lost me now...
OA260 wrote:Dano1977 wrote:Just booked my first cruise for 2020.
Going on the P&O Ventura, sailing from Southampton.
Visiting Maderia, La Palma, Tenerife, Lanzarote and Lisbon.
Nice enough ship I did Ventura on a Med cruise year before last. Highly recommend going at least one night to the Beach House for dinner. Its only a small cover charge but worth it. Nice stops you have also and make sure to be out on top deck when you sail into and out of Lisbon . Sailing under the bridge is an experience.
einsteinboricua wrote:northstardc4m wrote:einsteinboricua wrote:The ships DO have balconies, but they weren't the best selling feature since they were obstructed by the lifeboats. Hence why they added balconies lower in the hull.
You've lost me now...
I distinctly remember the deck plans for the Fantasy class ships back in the late 90s and the two balcony stateroom categories all had partially obstructed views. I don't recall balcony staterooms anywhere else prior to the refit.
einsteinboricua wrote:Obstructed doesn't necessarily mean lifeboat... It can mean metal railing for example... If you look at say the Royal Princess and Kin, cabins E101 to E110 all show as obstructed for that... Even though they are some of the biggest balconies available on any cruise ship anywhere... Just metal railing so no view below the rail. That's "obstructed".northstardc4m wrote:einsteinboricua wrote:The ships DO have balconies, but they weren't the best selling feature since they were obstructed by the lifeboats. Hence why they added balconies lower in the hull.
You've lost me now...
I distinctly remember the deck plans for the Fantasy class ships back in the late 90s and the two balcony stateroom categories all had partially obstructed views. I don't recall balcony staterooms anywhere else prior to the refit.
jetwet1 wrote:You are remembering incorrectly.
Deck 11 had the cat 11 suites,, now called juniors suites, 8 with obstructed view due to lifeboats, 18 unobstructed.
Deck 6 had the cat 12 suites, now callex grand suites, all unobstructed. On the fantasy class that got the balconies, the 8 suites that got the balcony extension are called penthouse suites, a new class of cabins.
ArchGuy1 wrote:FGITD wrote:Accidentally colliding with and sinking another ship doesn't make it historically significant. A piece of interest, perhaps...but that's it.
If they could scrap a concorde, they can most certainly scrap this ship
In addition to colliding with and sinking the Andrea Doria, the Astoria is the world's second oldest seagoing passenger ship in service and the last former passenger ship of the Swedish American Line in existence.
einsteinboricua wrote:Msc have nice ships... It's the service that people are hit and miss on.Some friends of mine went on the MSC Grandiosa and posted pictures of the ship. I gotta say: I'm adding the ship to my list of ships I want to cruise on.
northstardc4m wrote:Friends of ours were on the Divina in November... Ship itself was great, entertainment staff hot and cold, room Steward was invisible, dining room was ok, buffet bad... Etc etc. Reviews are similar pretty much everywhere.
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einsteinboricua wrote:I just realized: my next cruise is exactly a year away. Going on Norwegian Jewel from Auckland to Sydney.