einsteinboricua wrote:If I were Bernie, I'd be worried about the results of NH. Yes, he won the total vote, but in terms of delegates, he tied Buttigieg. Not only that, collectively, 74% opted someone else. If we consider Warren and Sanders to be the progressives of the party, combined they still trail the combined tally that Klobuchar and Buttigieg got.
To tie into that, compare the margin with which he won NH in 2016. Last night he won NH by slightly more than 1%, when he won by 35% last time. Even with all of Warren's voters he wouldn't have approached 35%. That's what I would worry about. Personally I hope that his star fades.
einsteinboricua wrote:afcjets wrote:I think the establishment Democrats actually fear the possibility of Bernie beating Trump more than him just winning the primary, because if Bernie becomes President, the gravy train's over!
I don't think it has anything to do with Bernie beating Trump...that's still up in the air and we only have 2016 data which is faulty considering there were only two contenders back then. Rather it's that IF by some miracle he ekes out a win, he'll be a lame duck president because his would need to compromise with Democrats to get them to pass his agenda items. That's assuming that Democrats retain the House and regain the Senate (which will also be an issue since Bernie's seat would be filled by a Republican, assuming Gov Scott remains governor, until a special election). If Republicans retain the Senate, Bernie's progressive agenda goes up in smoke.
And it would be interesting to see the same people who rail against Trump using executive orders to get around Congress suddenly support Sanders doing the same thing (and vice-versa: seeing Trump supporters who turned a blind eye to using a pen to do stuff suddenly clutch their pearls).
THAT'S why a Sanders presidency is doomed from the start. Because he has already made it a point to not compromise, giving Republicans and moderates every reason to not cooperate.
Agreed, it's a fantasy that needs to be called to an end. There is no way his agenda is getting through Congress, and it blows my mind that no one is calling him out on that. And then what? You have a cantankerous and ideologically rigid old man calling the shots, all the while he's yelling at you, and what is his Plan B? No thank you. I've had reservations about Sanders since the last time around, the first and foremost being Sen. Standards jumping his ideological ship for the sake of convenience when the lifelong independent decides to run as a Democrat, gripes about lack of support, continues as an Independent after losing the '16 nomination, then he's back again as a Democrat. The fact that he is no longer officially an independent would make it harder for him to get things done, because few Republicans would want to be seen working with a Democrat, whereas a (crazy) Independent is still explainable.
Though he's certainly not the only politician to do so, he frequently does not answer the questions asked of him, often ignoring an inconvenient question. In the last debate when asked what qualifications made him an appropriate Commander in Chief, he veers of in to La La land and starts banging on about how climate change is a global threat, and that--and I quote--"we need to bring China, Russia, Brazil, and Pakistan and the whole world together on climate change." And I just had to laugh and turn the channel. For a brief second I thought I was at a Madonna or Barbra Streisand concert listening to those two loons prattle on about their Utopian fantasies.