All of which is never going to happen, because the average American voter has little to no interestes beyond those of his immediate family or community.
This always suprises me considering how much of a 'christian' nation America is. You guys are incredibly selfish when it comes to things that you think don't directly affect you. I don't understand how you can look at every single study that shows countires that have a healthcare system that offers free at the point of use care is better in almost every measureable metric and think naaaa it's ok, we should keep bankruptsies, millions unable to afford insurance etc.
Nobody is suggesting a UK NHS style healthcare system, but you should in this day and age having something like Germany or Australia. Everyone is insured. An insurer cannot turn down someone, they cannot make a profit over a certain level. If you earn upto a certain level you have to choose one of a listed number of insurance companies. If you earn over xx then you can choose a private provider and get essentially private care. So you get to choose.
And guess what? It costs a fraction of what you pay in the US. It's taken out of your wages so you don't have to feck around with any taxes or returns. There's no deductables. You can choose what doctor you go to. Waiting times for operations are on paar with US providers if not better. I can see a doctor the same day. I can even have a skype appointment. My local hospital is brand new with 3 helicopter landing pads on the roof, everyone is covered, nobody goes without. When it costs less...honestly it's a no brainer.
So where would this end? You give education for free healthcare for free, where would the individual come in and assume responsibility for his life when he will then say “housing” is a right, “food” is a right, a car is a “right”.
Nobody gives healthcare for free. Most countries have 'free' at the point of use. UK has the NHS, it's free to use but you pay for it in your taxes. You pay for medication, dentists visits etc.
Germany has free education, but look at the workforce. The number of people with degrees is massive. Go down a different path then..a student loan system that actually works.
There are some things that a lot of the world has now grown to consider an effective human right. Healthcare and education are two of those things. Because both benefit the individual and the nation as a whole. A fit workforce, costs less, is more productive. A well educated country / workforce earns more money, contributes more, raises living standards, pays more tax = more money for shi*
You might disagree and say we should fix it, but why people for those nations with awesome healthcare systems such as in Europe still come to America?
I can guarantee you nobody moves to the US from Europe for it's healthcare. Healthcare and gun ownership is something that the majority of EU citizens roll their eyes on when ever it's mentioned.
There are plenty of American's living in Europe by the way. Some of my closest friends here in Germany are Americans. None of them miss US healthcare.
There's a ton to love about the US, but healthcare ain't one of them.
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