Issue here is that - as with a lot of this woke/PC thing - the folks doing the flight shaming are a broad group of people who don't need to fly, and hate on folks who do because its a wider class war thing. Its a lefty, socialist thing. They hate people who drive the fast cars, fly a lot, take cruises, eat meat and are wasteful - because they've come to hate people richer than they are, who have more than they do - by birth, privelege, colour or just because. People talking about white middle class male privileges, use sexism and the environment as the conduits through which to criticise, when in fact it is the fact that the have nots will always hate the haves. That's human nature and the wealth gap is now wider than its ever been, so the schism is also wider than its ever been. Its just now, class hatred is not ugly any more and you wont be singled out for holding pseudo communist beliefs as was the case in the west during the 20th century because you've justified it with actual problems instead.
By choosing racism or the environment you cannot yourself be criticised as you are "Right" and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Wrong then sits on a sliding scale, and the hysterical types soon end up conflating driving a V8 or taking a flight for a business meeting as being a "Nazi" - how do you argue with that? You cant. that's why JetBlue are worried. No biofuel or fuel efficient new A220 is going to solve that.
As with racism, those shouting loudest about it usually don't actually care about the issue itself - its about virtue signalling and using social media righteousness to further other agendas. the fight against rasicm and gender inequality, the environment etc are tools for many and causes for few. Flight shaming is the same. Its a class hatred thing mainly coming from those who cant afford to or don't have the opportunity to fly/travel themselves. You cant criticise the guy flying transcon for a weekend away for having more disposable income than you, but you absolutely can criticse him for being a planet killing Nazi ecomurderer. In reality the two things mean the same thing in many people's minds.
The problem is the herd mentality and our own tendency to listen to those who make the most noise - we aren't listening to folks who are actively trying to find solutions and make things better, (and that goes for racism, climate change, gender inequality etc - all MASSIVE ISSUES) because that doesn't suit the agenda. Its easier just to point fingers and hate other people as it suits your inbuilt class agenda.
You cant call someone a "capitalist" these days in a derogatory sense, but you absolutely can call them out on their carbon footprint, privileges etc which is basically the same thing and by doing so you cannot yourself be criticised as nobody criticises an environmentalist.
If I was a luxury car manufacturer, airline, cruise line, soft drinks brand etc etc i'd be very worried as the class war is already under way and its being fought on social media. The ugliest aspects of humanity all there on display for all to see. Grim.
The hope is that calm heads prevail and we can all see past this wealth gap thing that makes any real progress on these actual genuine issues impossible because of the hysterical and negative nature of the way it is communicated and the lack of informed debate. We need to talk about this to solve it, not accuse and point fingers. Unfortunately that's not how humans are wired up and why I do genuinely believe we're doomed as a species and that it will be our own hubris and greed - in its myriad forms - that eventually kills us off. Something very preventable which we could have sorted out but didn't because we were too busy arguing about who is better and who is worse and whose fault it all is. Something like... for example... climate change.
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