Well, they don't have to be part of any trade agreement, but they need to be discussed and agreed as well, so it's not a bad idea to use the same platform and framework for those talks too, given the same parties are around the table anyway...
On the other hand, given that there's already a lot on the table, maybe it's a better idea to move this topic to another round of seperate talks.
Well least we are in partial agreement, using the same platform is were we disagree. National and local area security are far apart but overall have the same goals and those that sit in those meeting are different people with different areas of competence, similar to the spat between the MOD and Cummings in respect to the carrier’s. Everyone knows it’s defence that get hammered when budgets are dwindling it’s easy pickings as defence cannot be run like a business case it’s has a unique function same as the intelligence network
Anyway, TM's government had tried to use security as a bargaining chip already, only to be reminded of the fact the UK has commitments under its NATO membership anyway, and that security and intelligence exchange is by far the cheapest way to live up to these commitments.
While ever the UK remains in NATO it’s never a bargaining chip. But the only reason that the EU see it that way is because it’s looking at further integration with a EU defence force
It's just proof the UK is desperately looking for some bargaining chips which simply aren't there: the UK is the junior partner by far, and the economic impact of a no deal is going to be many times bigger for the UK than for the EU: the cold hard facts and the numbers in support of them are stacked against the UK, simple as that really.
It should not be a problem then to remove it from the talks then should it, for then it would become a separate bilateral agreement between the EU/UK. If you think the UK is weaponisation the security aspect of the future relationship
The only thing you could think of is the resolve not to compromise, but that is something in the minds of fanatic Brexiteers only: most of the ordinary people who voted for Brexit are no die-hard Brexiteers or EU haters at all,
That’s were your misconceptions are, yes majority of brits don’t hate those from the continent i certainly don’t hate people from the continent that I’ve never meet before. But that is certainly very different from the political nature of the EU in which there is a lot of hate for institution the Brussels has become
they've just voted the way they did because they thought it would lead to a better personal life for them: when you feel like you have few to lose, you dare to make a gamble, but equally when you see that gamble isn't paying off, you're unlikely to double down... rather you'll cut your losses and go back to what you did before, taking any safe offer on the table.
The thing is there is no way of going back to before. Cameron tried the reforms aspect and got no where. But with Brexit it just might mean it’s the shakeup the the EU needs otherwise it could lead to more disenfranchisement from other members of the EU overtime.
Oh, and patience will probably run rather thin too for this to happen too, btw, which is why BoJo put out all these rather ridiculously short deadlines and why he's now returned to the pre-Brexit rethoric of breaking free as if brexit didn't happen yet....
No the short deadlines are in the interests of the UK, no point remains in vassalage and paying into the budget when at anytime the EU can pass a law at the detriment of the UK.
Scared of being confronted with the inevitable question from the British public of just when all those fantastic things will now finally happen.
Nope there’s always an element that oppose the government it’s a natural part of politics, leave even had to battle a very hostile Parliament
It's going to be an interesting moment of reckoning in a couple of years time, when a lot of ordinary people will look around them and still see they live in the same old houses in desolated streets of forgotten town and cities outside London, go to work for a miserable wage which hasn't grown much (if any) above inflation and have felt no positive material impact of Brexit whatsoever in their own lives.
I see you still practicing the art of clairvoyance, you better be careful most are arrested for fraud.