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And they did just that. How hard is it for you to say: I was wrong?
I don't know - all I came across was this article. 90% of it seems pure speculation, and I am not an expert to determine whether it is or not. However:
The “Vector” test, however, is approved by the World Health Organization (WHO), which means that everything should be in order, says Professor Jens Lundgren, head physician of the infectious diseases department of the Copenhagen National Hospital.
Am I happy, no of course not, I do not wish other people harm, actually quite the opposite. That's why I wish ordinary Hungarians a good and free country and that's why I side with citizens and not, as opposed to you, with figures like Orbán and other autocratic leaders. That's the principle difference between you and me.
I am also wishing Hungarians to build the country they would love and be proud of. The difference between you and me is that I believe it's up to them to determine what this country should be like, and you believe that you know that better and need to teach them how to properly live in their own country.If you noticed, I have never tried to teach you how to properly live in Netherlands, and neither do who you call "autocratic leaders".
What a complete and utter bull question is that? Am I happy, no of course not, I do not wish other people harm, actually quite the opposite. If this virus continue to spread, the economic damage will be much more severe. So better to act now, then to leave it at the roll of the dice. How hard is it for you to say: I was wrong?
In order to have an economic damage, there ought to be an economy. And all these carpet bans are perfectly capable of leaving you without one, and together with economy goes your healthcare, public safety and many other things. Not only you will not stop this one, you will be helpless before any subsequent one. Hence of course you have to consider economic impact and be very selective, as opposed to decisive.
Great, guess what: nobody is, but you might have. noticed that there is a very good reason for it. 840 confirmed cases in Russia today. See were this trend is leading to................. How hard is it for you to say: I was wrong?
840 cases are up-to-date, out of them 182 being new for the past 24 hours nationwide. Out of 840, 546 are in Moscow.
You need to be realistic and the point is that nobody knows, so giving any timeline is deceiving. What is happening in the grown-up world: inform the public why such measures are taken and give timelines when measures are going to be re-evaluated and why. But then. you have to have a public which is trained in dealing with unbiased information and can form an opinion on its own. You have to have trust in your government and if you have an autocratic government that only looks out for themselves, it takes a toll.
It's exactly absence of timelines and exit strategies that kills all the confidence that government officials are aware and in control, and even that they know what they are doing. Like it or not, gotta be reasonable, provide realistic timelines on when restrictions start getting lifted. And like it or not, but actually do start removing least effective ones earlier on. Otherwise you will simply have no economy and no society left.
But to close the loop for this thread: Orbán wants to rule by decree indefinitely until he says otherwise. So you are basically in agreement that this measure of Orbán is wrong. Good to know.
If Orban and Hungarians are OK with it - let them have it. I have no opinion on this.
In Russia, perhaps St. Petersburg is at the same level, but sure, the rest of the country is poor and thus traveling is not the first thing to spend money on. But as I understand it, Putin made a decree to close ALL bars and restaurants in the whole country. So even he disagrees with you.
Not my understanding. Moscow mayor did issue such order, but it's not countrywide. Countrywide - night clubs, hookah, mass events and such. Restaurants, bars, retail - there is no countrywide ban; each region issues their own guidelines. Some cities/regions issued takeout only, others - restrict capacity. And even that - it's for one week only so far.
And if Russia is spared an Italian scenario, it isn't because of your Putin, but despite the Putin regime. one positive thing though, the referendum in which Putin will get another two terms is postponed.
The referendum, just as Orban's desire to whatever, is internal Russian business. Whether or not they want to do the referendum, and whether or not allow Putin two more terms - it's solely Russian matter. I have no opinion on this.
The way the virus is spreading, the number of cases of confirmed infections makes that you are wrong. I still hope the Russians are speared an Italian scenario, but then the Putin regime needs to act and. act now.
The peak isn't reached in vast majority of places (I think China is almost done, and Italy has peaked, but nobody else). It's about when the peak is reached, and what it will be. But Russia's healthcare system is preparing all capacity they can reach. Hopefully it's not needed.