apodino wrote:seb146 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
Your assessment of the electoral college is incorrect. Just because WI, PA and OH were close doesn't mean they decided anything. The media called them late but their result is no more important than Texas or NY or any other state. Every state counts. Which is why the electoral college is so great. Unless you lose the election and then you don't like it and you want the popular vote which gives states like RI no voice.
And, as I said, many of the people who either held their breath and voted for the clown show we have now or didn't vote at all because they both stink see the error in their ways and will vote for the Democrat. From sea to shining sea. Your states that don't matter like NY and CA and your states that only count like OH and WI. We The People, the electorate, will look over the past four years and see that we need an actual leader. Someone who has experience. Someone who thinks about the country as a whole and not just his stock portfolio and golf courses.
I don't know...the democrat who looks like he will be the nominee has doubled down against M4A or Single Payer despite the circumstances showing we need it...period...end of story. The Democratic leadership in this virus has not inspired much confidence in me either. Pelosi rammed a Stimulus package through congress that benefits big corporations and doesn't help the middle class and the poor as much. Pelosi is already talking about a new stimulus package, but that stimulus of course is tax cuts for the wealthiest 1 percent that wouldn't even enter the economy for at least a year, and don't benefit the poor at all. And this special committee she just announced is full of Corporate loyalists like Jim Clyburn. This brand of Neoliberalism is hurting the middle class to the benefit of the wealthy donors and lobbyists who are the real people that Pelosi listens to.
McConnell is no different than Pelosi either, and is much worse. But until both Pelosi and McConnell are out of Washington, nothing will change.
As for the presidential Election, what does Biden stand for other than he is not Trump? He already said M4A and Single Payer is off the table if he is elected. That is unacceptable to me. His interviews have been disastrous, and the things he has suggested Trump do to help this pandemic are already the things Trump is doing. I don't know what else the guy stands for other than he wants to maintain the status quo. I am sorry, the Status Quo is unacceptable to me at a time when Millions of Americans are losing their job through no fault of there own, and with it their health insurance at a time when it is vitally needed. And Biden is consulting with Wall Street over who his running mate should be? This guy is so out of touch its not even funny. And lets not forget there are sexual abuse allegations out there against him. And the Mainstream media is completely ignoring this? Why?
Bernie is everything Biden wasn't. The problem with Bernie is he has power with a movement behind him, but he doesn't use it, instead choosing to play kumbaya with the Democratic Establishment. I would have actually considered voting for Bernie if he was the nominee. And there aren't really a lot of people who are for M4A who are out there who could get elected. Warren was one such person, but progressives are furious with her and she has no political capital with them anymore. Al Franken was run out of town, based on an story that was never corroborated. AOC isn't old enough yet, and everyone else on the left was born outside the US so they cant even run. I just don't see how we get there at all.
You mention other running mates. Harris is a corporatist democrat. Abrams is proving to be a corporatist democrat. Whitmer is also a corporatist democrat. If you think electing Biden is going to stop the profits over people mentality of corporate America...I have oceanfront property in New Mexico to sell you.
Trump is no better than anyone else, and I would love to see him out of office. But given Biden or Trump, I don't feel I have a choice. Corporations win no matter what, and we the people lose. Its why I keep saying, the battle in America is not between Liberal and Conservative, its between Corporatism/Neoliberalism, and Populism. Biden, Trump, Schumer, Pelosi, all fall into the former category. People who fall into the Populist category would be people like AOC, Bernie Sanders, Marco Rubio, Sarah Palin, and Justin Amash. Media Populists would be Saagar Enjeti, Krystal Ball, Tucker Carlson, Bill O'Reilly, and Cenk Uygur. Media Corporatists/Neoliberals would be Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow, Laura Ingraham, Chris Cuomo, and Don Lemon.
Obama said that same gender marriage was off the table, too, and look how that turned out. Democrats are willing to keep an open mind. Democrats are also telling the corporate world to pay workers a living wage. That unions are not bad because they can help with things like affordable health care and retirement benefits. Democrats also want every legal American to vote when it is legally possible. But, yes, do go on about how they are worse because Republicans do this and that.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/georgia- ... 2M9MwMRFGc
Democrats had to reduce funding for vote by mail in the stimulus bill because Republicans are offended by voting. As the leader of the Republicn party said if that happens "...you'd never have a Republican elected again." Totally the same.....
It also looks like GOP voters are turning on dear leader as well
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gop-vote ... Nu04jRkC7s