BasilFawlty wrote:You know what is wrong? People seeing their lifework businesses going bankrupt because they are forced to close their companies. You know what is wrong? Millions of people losing their jobs, unable to pay their bills and rent/mortgage and driven in to poverty and causing serious health issues in the longer term.
That all sounds great as long as you have an income every month. If you're one of many unlucky ones who can't do their work at home or when you no longer have an income at all I highly doubt reading books, watching videos and playing games will help you.
O.k., on this I'm willing to engage with you seriously.
There are still many sicknesses which don't have a vaccination, nor treatment. How long do we want to keep children from 5-12 years without peers?
I believe the shutdown at the moment is required, and surely a few weeks and maybe even months more, to prepare for Corona cases. I live in India. It's a young society. Most poor won't be able to afford one month intensive care for a 85 year old. Accordingly intensive care beds are few. There is no hope to create that capacity. I hope they manage to build up infrastructure for enough Oxygen bottles and refill to treat those patients that need Oxygen.
In wealthier places there should at least be intensive care facilities for those who don't have chronic conditions beside ordinary old age diabetes. So it takes time to create enough capacity. I also believe Europe/ US will have to create additional infrastructure for Oxygen. There are IIRC four times more patients needing Oxygen as compared to intensive care. I believe that includes working population and even you are at risk.
Can we wait till we have a vaccine? This is something to discuss.
Let's say the truth is in the middle. So once the infrastructure is in place one could consider to start infecting those with very low risk by purpose. Let's say for Germany daily 100.000 people, starting with twenty years old, under controlled conditions. People with a history of lung trouble are excluded. School buildings and sport halls could be used as dormitories. They are released once they recover. Depending on free intensive care capacity one may be able to increase the number. People above 50 wait for a future vaccination. People between 40 - 50 years are chosen depending on health.
Infections under controlled conditions have the advantage that those affected get enough sleep and stay away from alcohol/ cigarettes and whatever else lowers the immune system. They can get optimum nutrition. They also don't run around as asymptomatic carriers.
This is as far as I can go. I guess most will find it horrible that I am willing to infect people on purpose. But it will give some perspective to when we can return to normal. What if there is no vaccination in two years? Should all above 65 years old stay in social isolation for good?
I believe isolating old people, let's say above 65 years, is the reasonable thing to do for time being.