So at the back of my mind, and even more so now since I got tested positive for covid I’ve been wondering when normality will return to the world. The common answer seems to be that will be when a vaccine is found?
I hear that we may see one approved by October?
When will we see a return to normality? End of this year? Begin of next year?
I hope you are well and you recover without any long-term issues.
I think the world waiting on a vaccine for a virus that is not realistic and people are going to start saying f*ck it. Those who are scared say home but be free to live your life as safely as possible. We have to learn to live with this in the meantime and this virus compared to other seems pretty meek to most people. 80% of the death have been seniors who all have underlying health condition. Those who are in nursing homes typically do because they are in nursing homes, most people do not want to go into those facilities willingly
An effective vaccine could be ready by January, in 5 years or never come. I'm betting on an effective treatment first.
I am worried about whether a vaccine will be effective enough. Even the flu vaccine leaves some folks susceptible.
The common cold mutates so fast we never get a vaccine for it, and maybe it doesn't matter as it is rarely deadly.
If Covid is in between these two, we could be in for years of issues.
I think the biggest issue though is getting through this initial wave. We are social distancing for the hospitals because they will not handle the influx of folks that are susceptible to the disease.
In 5-6 months, we may be at a point where we have a vaccine or so many folks have passed on that we go into an immune phase.
I figure once we get to 60-70% having the antibodies, we will have the herd immunity, and it will slow the spread greatly whether we get a vaccine or not.
This virus doesn't seem to have that level of mutation that the common cold has or even the flu. Remember there is more than one virus that causes the common cold. There are 4 endemic coronaviruses that cause about a third of them they provide 3 years of immunity. The remainder come from the influenza virus and the Rhinovirus. This is why it is so hard to vaccinate for the common cold because its not one simple virus and also the symptoms are merely and inconvenience.
A vaccine has to be established as safe, effective dose determined, over all effectiveness established. October is far too optimistic. We don't even know now if contracting the disease produces immunity.
So if the disease doesn't produce immunity then a vaccine is not possible because that is what a vaccine does without making the host sick.
People with covid19 have immunity I'm sure but the question is how long does it last for, and does the immunity merely prevent the illness again but you can be infected and be potentially contagious but you personally won't get sick.
There had been a return to normalcy in many countries such as New Zealand, Thailand, and Australia. But for that, you need to kick out the virus. This requires a competent government that uses science and requires masks and contact tracing
Not really. They have dealt with is locally but how are they planning to handle tourists and other international traffic again? Requesting everyone self-isolate for 2 weeks works now but long term is completely unrealistic.
I have a couple of concerns about a vaccine.
The first concerns bringing the vaccine to market. Are we moving too quickly, potentially introducing a “dangerous” vaccine into the equation? What safeguards are we setting aside? And, if they can be set aside in this case, why are they there in the first place? Is it a simple social economic question balancing the potential deaths from COVID-19 against the potential deaths of a vaccine that hasn’t been rigorously tested?
Second, will there be a strain of COVID-19 next “season” sufficiently different from this strain as to render a vaccine ineffective?
The whole idea of flattening the curve has not been to eliminate the virus. The precautions we’ve been taking to flatten the curve serve to prolong the time this pandemic affects us, while at the same time trying to keep the number of folks requiring critical medical care from overwhelming the healthcare system.
It is silly to think there wouldn’t be a 2nd or even 3rd and 4th wave as we open up. I suggest, that barring a quick, effective vaccine, those waves are absolutely necessary to beating this thing.
Well from my perspective, my country's government initially did that and moved the goalposts to elimination frustrating many. Thankfully the clamps are slowly being removed and we can interact with people in small settings.We can't hide forever and people will simply have normal social interactions again with or without the government.
This method of eradication and prolonged social distancing could prolong this pandemic and many health experts say that, you don't save lives, you just move the date. Even the large case loads we see in Florida, Arizona and Texas should be fine if the hospital capacity can deal with it. What we want to avoid is choosing who lives and who dies and if its looking like that will be the case then by all means tighten up the economy and movement of people.
At the end of the day this virus is Darwin at work and that sucks for those who will die themselves or lose loved ones but a coffin in coming for everyone one of us. Also while this might sound heartless it doesn't mean that we purposely infect Grandma (in fact do everything you can to protect her), but society will and has to move on.
Also in Toronto the BLM protests and some newsworthy outdoor gatherings have not caused a spike despite record testing.