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Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:56 am

Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

The US killed General Soleimani and others in a January drone attack near Baghdad International Airport.

Iran has issued an arrest warrant and asked Interpol for help in detaining US President Donald Trump and dozens of others it believes carried out the drone strike that killed a top Iranian general in Baghdad.


Read more here:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/ ... 10662.html


Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen … Wonder what Interpol response will be ?
 
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:03 pm

Never took them for having a sense of humour, Still, though a gesture more than anything, from a far from nice bunch, you are right it does highlight the problem with setting yourself above the law, the international laws and frameworks put in place by the US when it was led by rational leaders.
 
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:39 pm

Mortyman wrote:
Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen…


Well it obviously isn't a problem right now, but it could pose an issue for him once/if he finishes his job as president. Bush the 2nd had to cancel some post-presidency visits to foreign countries because there were outstanding warrants for him. Some human rights organizations nearly got him in Switzerland, and I recall something in Canada too. Post-presidency speech holding and stuff like that is really lucrative for former US presidents, so the inability to travel is going to put a big dent into his wallet.
 
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:43 pm

VSMUT wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen…


Well it obviously isn't a problem right now, but it could pose an issue for him once/if he finishes his job as president. Bush the 2nd had to cancel some post-presidency visits to foreign countries because there were outstanding warrants for him. Some human rights organizations nearly got him in Switzerland, and I recall something in Canada too. Post-presidency speech holding and stuff like that is really lucrative for former US presidents, so the inability to travel is going to put a big dent into his wallet.


Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees
 
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:53 pm

dmg626 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen…


Well it obviously isn't a problem right now, but it could pose an issue for him once/if he finishes his job as president. Bush the 2nd had to cancel some post-presidency visits to foreign countries because there were outstanding warrants for him. Some human rights organizations nearly got him in Switzerland, and I recall something in Canada too. Post-presidency speech holding and stuff like that is really lucrative for former US presidents, so the inability to travel is going to put a big dent into his wallet.


Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees


Who outside of his diminishing cult would want to hear Trump's infantile babble anyway? Plus he might well be spending his post Presidential time in court right in the US.
 
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:00 pm

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Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees

Indeed. It already gets stuffed with weekend visits to his golf clubs.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:44 pm

Keep in mind Trump is a reality TV star, his main business is selling his image. Admittedly, that's already gone down the drain, but the inability to slap his name on buildings in some countries will not help.
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:53 pm

Mortyman wrote:
Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen … Wonder what Interpol response will be ?


Funny, although the Iranian government is not perfect themselves it’s funny how they have gone through recognised International channels and institutions to issue an arrest warrant, despite how we are told they are one of the most corrupt and evil regimes in the planet that ignores international law.

If Iran had led an air strike that specifically targeted an American General in another country there’s no way the US government would have gone to Interpol to kindly ask for an arrest warrant, I bet they would be carpet bombing Tehran within hours. They were minutes away from launching an attack on Iran that would’ve killed 150 Iranians simply because the Americans lost a solitary unmanned drone.
 
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:58 pm

dmg626 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen…


Well it obviously isn't a problem right now, but it could pose an issue for him once/if he finishes his job as president. Bush the 2nd had to cancel some post-presidency visits to foreign countries because there were outstanding warrants for him. Some human rights organizations nearly got him in Switzerland, and I recall something in Canada too. Post-presidency speech holding and stuff like that is really lucrative for former US presidents, so the inability to travel is going to put a big dent into his wallet.


Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees


Visiting his property could start getting iffy.

Desperate for loans as he was, he may actually need those speaking fees.

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Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:40 pm

Ah, the advantages of not being a member of the ICC.
 
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Re: Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump, asks Interpol to help

Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:00 pm

dmg626 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Well the US thinks it stands above international law, so that is not gonna happen…


Well it obviously isn't a problem right now, but it could pose an issue for him once/if he finishes his job as president. Bush the 2nd had to cancel some post-presidency visits to foreign countries because there were outstanding warrants for him. Some human rights organizations nearly got him in Switzerland, and I recall something in Canada too. Post-presidency speech holding and stuff like that is really lucrative for former US presidents, so the inability to travel is going to put a big dent into his wallet.


Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees


That doesn't sound like a lot of certainty. Without the tax returns, no way of knowing for sure. According to some reports, the T.O. still has massive debts, far beyond his asset worth.
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:02 pm

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Ah, the advantages of not being a member of the ICC.



The ICC and Interpol are two different things
 
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:02 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
dmg626 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:

Well it obviously isn't a problem right now, but it could pose an issue for him once/if he finishes his job as president. Bush the 2nd had to cancel some post-presidency visits to foreign countries because there were outstanding warrants for him. Some human rights organizations nearly got him in Switzerland, and I recall something in Canada too. Post-presidency speech holding and stuff like that is really lucrative for former US presidents, so the inability to travel is going to put a big dent into his wallet.


Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees


That doesn't sound like a lot of certainty. Without the tax returns, no way of knowing for sure. According to some reports, the T.O. still has massive debts, far beyond his asset worth.



Ya, sure he’ll be as “broke” as the Clintons when they left the White House
 
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:55 pm

Forgive me if I'm imagining things, but didn't the current US administration do (or try to do) something similar to Maduro?
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:21 pm

LabQuest wrote:
Ah, the advantages of not being a member of the ICC.


Iraq (under US pressure) and Iran are not ratification parties of the ICC.

Buuuuuut... the ICC is involved when a crime happens in a ratifying member, such as Afghanistan. The US Prezidump can make waah-wahh-waaah as long as he wants.

dmg626 wrote:
Pretty sure his wallet doesn’t need padding from speaking fees


We just have to wait for the Supreme Court's opinion... if Trump is wealthy (or his wealth is from kosher sources), he wouldn't have any trouble publicising it. Trump's personality really screams "I want to prove I'm wealthy!"

But he's extremely secretive.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:01 am

flyingturtle wrote:
LabQuest wrote:
Ah, the advantages of not being a member of the ICC.


Iraq (under US pressure) and Iran are not ratification parties of the ICC.

Buuuuuut... the ICC is involved when a crime happens in a ratifying member, such as Afghanistan. The US Prezidump can make waah-wahh-waaah as long as he wants..


plus of course the ICCs jurisdiction is global, regardless of nationality of the culprit, or where the crime was committed.

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Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:14 am

tommy1808 wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:
LabQuest wrote:
Ah, the advantages of not being a member of the ICC.


Iraq (under US pressure) and Iran are not ratification parties of the ICC.

Buuuuuut... the ICC is involved when a crime happens in a ratifying member, such as Afghanistan. The US Prezidump can make waah-wahh-waaah as long as he wants..


plus of course the ICCs jurisdiction is global, regardless of nationality of the culprit, or where the crime was committed.

best regards
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Good luck trying to extradite anyone from the states to the Hague.
 
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:17 am

LabQuest wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:

Iraq (under US pressure) and Iran are not ratification parties of the ICC.

Buuuuuut... the ICC is involved when a crime happens in a ratifying member, such as Afghanistan. The US Prezidump can make waah-wahh-waaah as long as he wants..


plus of course the ICCs jurisdiction is global, regardless of nationality of the culprit, or where the crime was committed.

best regards
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Good luck trying to extradite anyone from the states to the Hague.


People travel, Trump has property in lots of places...

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Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:25 am

tommy1808 wrote:
LabQuest wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

plus of course the ICCs jurisdiction is global, regardless of nationality of the culprit, or where the crime was committed.

best regards
Thomas


Good luck trying to extradite anyone from the states to the Hague.


People travel, Trump has property in lots of places...

Best regards
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Nobody is going to arrest a former sitting President. The secret service simply won't allow it.
 
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:41 am

LabQuest wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
LabQuest wrote:

Good luck trying to extradite anyone from the states to the Hague.


People travel, Trump has property in lots of places...

Best regards
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Nobody is going to arrest a former sitting President. The secret service simply won't allow it.


The secret Service won't allow other countries law enforcement to execute a legal arrest warrant? That would just mean more arrests...

Bush had to cancel trips to avoid arrest, remember

Reminds me of the Achille Lauro, where US troops surrendered the hijackers at aviano after it was clean the Carabinieri had surrounded them with superior firepower. And that was combat troops, not mere secret service agents....

And the secret service would have a hard time getting permission to be armed in foreign lands from that moment forward....

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Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:10 pm

flyingturtle wrote:
LabQuest wrote:
Ah, the advantages of not being a member of the ICC.


Iraq (under US pressure) and Iran are not ratification parties of the ICC.

Buuuuuut... the ICC is involved when a crime happens in a ratifying member, such as Afghanistan. The US Prezidump can make waah-wahh-waaah as long as he wants.

I thought Iran's such move was nominally done to counter the killing of their genetals in Iran?
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:18 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
LabQuest wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

People travel, Trump has property in lots of places...

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Bush cancelled that trip to avoid protestors getting arrested, not himself.

Foreign hijackers are different than former heads of state. It will never happen.
 
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:53 pm

LabQuest wrote:

Foreign hijackers are different than former heads of state. It will never happen.


The U.S. imprisoned the former head of state of Liberia, for example.
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