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Fourth of July Fireworks at Mount Rushmore With Trump and no Social Distancing

Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:15 pm

For the Fourth of July, a huge fireworks display will be held at Mount Rushmore with Trump in attendance and 7,500 people are expected to attend. However, social distancing and the wearing of face masks will not be required at the event. Very good way to get a huge outbreak going in South Dakota and this will likely be a huge disaster's thanks to Trump's poor policies.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:32 pm

Honestly...do we actually expect better at this point...
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:34 pm

With any luck Trump will catch it...
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:45 pm

I’m sure attendees will be asked to sign a waiver of all liability if they catch Corona. :lol:
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:47 pm

We should just be glad that Trump isn't trying to add his face to it. Yet.
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:39 pm

Should go great. :sarcastic:
Everyone saw that Herman Cain (Cancer survivor) , who attended the Tulsa Rally Mask-less is currently in the hospital right?

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Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:57 pm

There definitely are similarities between Donald Trump and Mohammad Saeed Al-Sahhaf.
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:55 am

Then there is the deep insult to Native Americans as to the site's existence as well as the fireworks celebration by the USA and Pres. Trump. By the way, due to fire risks, fireworks shows there have not been held for 10 years. Talk about stupid decisions.
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:21 am

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Then there is the deep insult to Native Americans as to the site's existence as well as the fireworks celebration by the USA and Pres. Trump. By the way, due to fire risks, fireworks shows there have not been held for 10 years. Talk about stupid decisions.


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Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:34 am

ltbewr wrote:
Then there is the deep insult to Native Americans as to the site's existence as well as the fireworks celebration by the USA and Pres. Trump. By the way, due to fire risks, fireworks shows there have not been held for 10 years. Talk about stupid decisions.


He also doesn´t have permission to go there at all.

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Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:33 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Then there is the deep insult to Native Americans as to the site's existence as well as the fireworks celebration by the USA and Pres. Trump. By the way, due to fire risks, fireworks shows there have not been held for 10 years. Talk about stupid decisions.


He also doesn't have permission to go there at all.

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Like any President would respect Native American sovereignty. Mt. Rushmore is owned (under duress) by the Federal government's National Park Service/Dept. of Interior. The President will have to transit in part by vehicle in the surrounding Reservation so permission from the Souix Tribe government should have been sought out of respect for the tribe.
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:00 pm

Isn't it quite dry in that area now. Sounds interesting with a fireworks display. Well i guess the people involved know what they're doing.
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:24 pm

Didn't the MAGA governor of South Dakota refuse to shut the meat processing plants because of a massive outbreak of covid a few months ago?

I feel like if someone where to try to keep up with all the crazy with regard to MAGA and covid, it would be a massive wall cover with push pins and strings.......
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:26 pm

Assuming they don't burn down the forest, the pyrotechnics may be worth watching.

10,000 shells from 7 different locations.

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Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:09 am

Supposedly his speech he will give tonight will be another bash fest of 'Liberals', protesters, those that want to rename military bases and take down statues of CSA traitor military and government leaders. along with his usual laundry list of obsessive hate targets. He is treating this as a campaign rally, illegally on government property. He is a very sick jerk and cannot be given any respect as President.
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:47 am

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With any luck Trump will catch it...

If it's anything like the 4th of July event in DC where the military equipment was far away from where regular supporters would be (a VIP section accessible to a lucky few with tickets), I don't think this will happen...though given that SD's governor is in Lalaland, maybe...just maybe.

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Everyone saw that Herman Cain (Cancer survivor) , who attended the Tulsa Rally Mask-less is currently in the hospital right?

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Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:58 am

This stunt by a politically atheist failed leader is the ultimate expression of craven TDS and fake alpha ‘patriotism’ by this WH.
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:41 pm

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This stunt by a politically atheist failed leader is the ultimate expression of craven TDS and fake alpha ‘patriotism’ by this WH.


It was politically brilliant he will have the Democrats on the wrong side of the issue and his new executive order announced last night. They will oppose a garden with monuments honoring our founders and IMO it will remind voters they have a problem with the founders and founding of this great nation and that they plan to continue undoing it. Especially when Democratic Socialist AOC gets in front of a camera condemning it.
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:06 pm

afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
This stunt by a politically atheist failed leader is the ultimate expression of craven TDS and fake alpha ‘patriotism’ by this WH.


It was politically brilliant he will have the Democrats on the wrong side of the issue and his new executive order announced last night. They will oppose a garden with monuments honoring our founders and IMO it will remind voters they have a problem with the founders and founding of this great nation and that they plan to continue undoing it. Especially when Democratic Socialist AOC gets in front of a camera condemning it.


Nobody who breathes through their nostrils on the regular thought the grade-school history (with notable mistakes) report was ‘brilliant’. Washington didn’t create the Continental Army ‘out of nothing’ FFS. Miller was so busy worshipping the Third Reich he snoozed on Presidents 101.

And we’re not even onto the ridiculous bronzer.

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Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:16 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Then there is the deep insult to Native Americans as to the site's existence as well as the fireworks celebration by the USA and Pres. Trump. By the way, due to fire risks, fireworks shows there have not been held for 10 years. Talk about stupid decisions.


He also doesn´t have permission to go there at all.

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Well that should be cause for impeachment if he went without a permission slip , gmafb
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:26 pm

But the protests are ok right? Protests had hundreds of thousands as opposed to a few thousand.

Bunch of hypocrites.
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:59 pm

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But the protests are ok right? Protests had hundreds of thousands as opposed to a few thousand.

Bunch of hypocrites.


Wrong - protests were OK as long as proper precautions were taken with face coverings and masks. Any protesters without were just as irresponsible as this audience - but the WH has the additional obligation of leadership and has completely failed to do so. Absolutely galling for a major public health crisis.
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:00 pm

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tommy1808 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Then there is the deep insult to Native Americans as to the site's existence as well as the fireworks celebration by the USA and Pres. Trump. By the way, due to fire risks, fireworks shows there have not been held for 10 years. Talk about stupid decisions.


He also doesn´t have permission to go there at all.

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Well that should be cause for impeachment if he went without a permission slip , gmafb


Nah... a president soon to embark on a 50 year prison sentence doesn't need trespassing on top of it, and the senate Republicans lied under oath before, so what's the point of another impeachment.

But almost 10% of the number of Americans Trump killed actually showed up. Another weak showing...

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Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:32 pm

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glideslope900 wrote:
But the protests are ok right? Protests had hundreds of thousands as opposed to a few thousand.

Bunch of hypocrites.


Wrong - protests were OK as long as proper precautions were taken with face coverings and masks. Any protesters without were just as irresponsible as this audience - but the WH has the additional obligation of leadership and has completely failed to do so. Absolutely galling for a major public health crisis.


Actually, the protesters for BLM had a doctor's note signed by 1000 doctors that they would not be condemned as unsafe and masks were not distributed to protestors in these urban centers. Trump had no such doctor's note, handed out masks in a national park and the media is reporting it's unsafe. Big difference, Trump's event was totally unsafe. :banghead:
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:44 pm

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Aaron747 wrote:
glideslope900 wrote:
But the protests are ok right? Protests had hundreds of thousands as opposed to a few thousand.

Bunch of hypocrites.


Wrong - protests were OK as long as proper precautions were taken with face coverings and masks. Any protesters without were just as irresponsible as this audience - but the WH has the additional obligation of leadership and has completely failed to do so. Absolutely galling for a major public health crisis.


Actually, the protesters for BLM had a doctor's note signed by 1000 doctors that they would not be condemned as unsafe and masks were not distributed to protestors in these urban centers. Trump had no such doctor's note, handed out masks in a national park and the media is reporting it's unsafe. Big difference, Trump's event was totally unsafe. :banghead:


Illogical and neither here nor there - that was in the first few days after Floyd, and was widely condemned by many epidemiologists. Not to mention 1,000 represents nothing - that isn’t even one half of 1% of the 900K doctors in the US.

Meanwhile the WH is managing the public tone on federal guidance and response while key personnel, 45, and his idiot family can’t be bothered to set public examples of the guidelines already out. It’s a total shitshow.
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:45 pm

Kimberly Guilfoyle, Donald Trump Jr.'s girlfriend, tests positive for coronavirus

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kimberl ... d=71604361

I love how they call her “top campaign official” since “leech on payroll to blow Don Jr” is not appropriate for daytime TV.
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:49 pm

afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
glideslope900 wrote:
But the protests are ok right? Protests had hundreds of thousands as opposed to a few thousand.

Bunch of hypocrites.


Wrong - protests were OK as long as proper precautions were taken with face coverings and masks. Any protesters without were just as irresponsible as this audience - but the WH has the additional obligation of leadership and has completely failed to do so. Absolutely galling for a major public health crisis.


Actually, the protesters for BLM had a doctor's note signed by 1000 doctors that they would not be condemned as unsafe and masks were not distributed to protestors in these urban centers. Trump had no such doctor's note, handed out masks in a national park and the media is reporting it's unsafe. Big difference, Trump's event was totally unsafe. :banghead:

Prolonged contact with more people increases your chances of contracting the disease whether it’s a protest or a white trash Brownshirt rally with fellow unmasked mouth breathers. That said the protestors in general are younger and more likely to wear a mask anyway, and it’s been fairly apparent that large protests aren’t driving increased covid, but rather regular restaurant and bar crowds. Lastly the GOP right up to dear leader’s animosity toward masks and science in general have made this pandemic profoundly worse—killing tens of thousands that did not need to die. And for what?
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:36 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
This stunt by a politically atheist failed leader is the ultimate expression of craven TDS and fake alpha ‘patriotism’ by this WH.


It was politically brilliant he will have the Democrats on the wrong side of the issue and his new executive order announced last night. They will oppose a garden with monuments honoring our founders and IMO it will remind voters they have a problem with the founders and founding of this great nation and that they plan to continue undoing it. Especially when Democratic Socialist AOC gets in front of a camera condemning it.


Nobody who breathes through their nostrils on the regular thought the grade-school history (with notable mistakes) report was ‘brilliant’.


An on-air CNN reporter appears to agree with you. While this might resonate with many IMO this does not resonate with the majority of voters in key states:

"President Trump will be at Mount Rushmore, where he’ll be standing in front of a monument of two slave owners and on land wrestled away from Native Americans," she said. "I'm told that, uh, he'll be focusing on the effort to 'tear down our country's history.'"

You can read the full article "CNN slights Mount Rushmore as 'monument of two slaveowners' after extolling its 'majesty' in 2016" here...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-mount ... ave-owners
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:29 pm

afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
afcjets wrote:

It was politically brilliant he will have the Democrats on the wrong side of the issue and his new executive order announced last night. They will oppose a garden with monuments honoring our founders and IMO it will remind voters they have a problem with the founders and founding of this great nation and that they plan to continue undoing it. Especially when Democratic Socialist AOC gets in front of a camera condemning it.


Nobody who breathes through their nostrils on the regular thought the grade-school history (with notable mistakes) report was ‘brilliant’.


An on-air CNN reporter appears to agree with you. While this might resonate with many IMO this does not resonate with the majority of voters in key states:

"President Trump will be at Mount Rushmore, where he’ll be standing in front of a monument of two slave owners and on land wrestled away from Native Americans," she said. "I'm told that, uh, he'll be focusing on the effort to 'tear down our country's history.'"

You can read the full article "CNN slights Mount Rushmore as 'monument of two slaveowners' after extolling its 'majesty' in 2016" here...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-mount ... ave-owners


Nice deflection, but still not getting to the main point. Anyone who isn’t a mouth breather is no longer falling for this insipid brand of fake patriotism that is simultaneously costing lives through inaction and indifference. And the WH wonders why they are losing seniors in poll after poll...
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:45 pm

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Nice deflection, but still not getting to the main point. Anyone who isn’t a mouth breather is no longer falling for this insipid brand of fake patriotism that is simultaneously costing lives through inaction and indifference. And the WH wonders why they are losing seniors in poll after poll...


How is how this event is being reported a deflection?
And keep in mind you're the one who said this event was a campaign rally.
 
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:02 am

afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Nice deflection, but still not getting to the main point. Anyone who isn’t a mouth breather is no longer falling for this insipid brand of fake patriotism that is simultaneously costing lives through inaction and indifference. And the WH wonders why they are losing seniors in poll after poll...


How is how this event is being reported a deflection?
And keep in mind you're the one who said this event was a campaign rally.


It’s a deflection because you avoid the topic of how unprofessional and ridiculous it was.

‘Campaign rally’ was an accurate statement. The crowd had to get 45 more into the speech because he started off so lazy. Stephen Miller’s words had no intention of unifying and portrayed large numbers of Americans as outright enemies. That’s layaway huckstering, not a Presidential July 4th address celebrating the whole lot from coast to coast. It was a rally, plain and simple. Total shitshow.

This is how a July 4th speech should sound:

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/research/speeches/70486c
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:19 am

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afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Nice deflection, but still not getting to the main point. Anyone who isn’t a mouth breather is no longer falling for this insipid brand of fake patriotism that is simultaneously costing lives through inaction and indifference. And the WH wonders why they are losing seniors in poll after poll...


How is how this event is being reported a deflection?
And keep in mind you're the one who said this event was a campaign rally.


It’s a deflection because you avoid the topic of how unprofessional and ridiculous it was.

‘Campaign rally’ was an accurate statement. The crowd had to get 45 more into the speech because he started off so lazy. Stephen Miller’s words had no intention of unifying and portrayed large numbers of Americans as outright enemies. That’s layaway huckstering, not a Presidential July 4th address celebrating the whole lot from coast to coast. It was a rally, plain and simple. Total shitshow.

This is how a July 4th speech should sound:

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/research/speeches/70486c


Got it, anyone who has a different opinion than you is deflecting.
 
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Aaron747 wrote:
afcjets wrote:

How is how this event is being reported a deflection?
And keep in mind you're the one who said this event was a campaign rally.


It’s a deflection because you avoid the topic of how unprofessional and ridiculous it was.

‘Campaign rally’ was an accurate statement. The crowd had to get 45 more into the speech because he started off so lazy. Stephen Miller’s words had no intention of unifying and portrayed large numbers of Americans as outright enemies. That’s layaway huckstering, not a Presidential July 4th address celebrating the whole lot from coast to coast. It was a rally, plain and simple. Total shitshow.

This is how a July 4th speech should sound:

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/research/speeches/70486c


Got it, anyone who has a different opinion than you is deflecting.


Sure, let’s explore opinions then: which speech was better - 45’s or the Reagan one I posted?
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:41 am

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Aaron747 wrote:
afcjets wrote:

It was politically brilliant he will have the Democrats on the wrong side of the issue and his new executive order announced last night. They will oppose a garden with monuments honoring our founders and IMO it will remind voters they have a problem with the founders and founding of this great nation and that they plan to continue undoing it. Especially when Democratic Socialist AOC gets in front of a camera condemning it.


Nobody who breathes through their nostrils on the regular thought the grade-school history (with notable mistakes) report was ‘brilliant’.


An on-air CNN reporter appears to agree with you. While this might resonate with many IMO this does not resonate with the majority of voters in key states:

"President Trump will be at Mount Rushmore, where he’ll be standing in front of a monument of two slave owners and on land wrestled away from Native Americans," she said. "I'm told that, uh, he'll be focusing on the effort to 'tear down our country's history.'"

You can read the full article "CNN slights Mount Rushmore as 'monument of two slaveowners' after extolling its 'majesty' in 2016" here...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-mount ... ave-owners

Trump is doubling down on the confederacy, which is not surprising to anyone. And I don't think promoting the confederacy is a winning election issue when there's a pandemic and economic depression he's made 1000x worse, while voter perception of black lives matter is shifting remarkably fast, and not in old white racist trash's favor.

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you're the one who said this event was a campaign rally.

What else could it possibly be? Nuremburg rally for the illiterate?
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IMHO we get herd immunity sooner than the vaccine. Or around the same time.
 
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stl07 wrote:
The virus is Fake, This is the new normal until we get a vaccine. MAGA

IMHO we get herd immunity sooner than the vaccine. Or around the same time.



In Russia? Or are you talking to those of us in the USA?
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In Russia? Or are you talking to those of us in the USA?


Everywhere. In USA and Russia trends were similar. And in Moscow, recent anti-body sampling shows that about 20% of people have antibodies, thus having come in contact with the virus. I’d imagine the story is similar in NYC.
 
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Many make the point of the potential spread of Covid-19 from the Anti-Racism/BLM protests. Yes, there were/are risks from them, but do you think any politician, even Republicans (except Trump) were going to stop peaceful protests by Black persons ? No way, they would be branded racist and lose their next election. Unlike Trump's rallies, all but a few who participated in the protests were/are using masks, were outdoors and generally younger so of lower risk. Trump is promoting an obscene view of America to the world, seeking fellow racists to help him win re-election. Well, Black persons have no love for Trump, especially as how he loves racists, CSA 'heroes', too many dying of Covid-19 due to his gross incompetency.
 
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anrec80 wrote:
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The virus is Fake, This is the new normal until we get a vaccine. MAGA


IMHO we get herd immunity sooner than the vaccine. Or around the same time.

Its funny that everyone in the US keeps saying "this is the new normal until the vaccine" but in basically every other country (apart from, not surprisingly, India, Brazil, and Russia, 3 countries with their own Trumps) they have eradicated it or have flattened the curve and life can resume like it was pre-pandemic.
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The virus is Fake, This is the new normal until we get a vaccine. MAGA


IMHO we get herd immunity sooner than the vaccine. Or around the same time.

Its funny that everyone in the US keeps saying "this is the new normal until the vaccine" but in basically every other country (apart from, not surprisingly, India, Brazil, and Russia, 3 countries with their own Trumps) they have eradicated it or have flattened the curve and life can resume like it was pre-pandemic.


Both USA and Russia are large and diverse countries, and in each region the restrictions are different. Russians are looking at actual hospitalized patients. In Moscow, for example, pretty much all restrictions are lifted, except masks in public transit and social distancing guidelines. In regions - yes, the number of cases is going up, but the virus is nowhere as aggressive, which means that actually fewer people need medical help, and regions are lifting the restrictions.

Same in the USA - New York City and vicinity had their run-ups, but now both number of cases and hospitalizations is back to where they were in March. In Connecticut, things feel pretty much normal. Now in Western USA - yes, the number of cases is up because they slammed shutdowns prematurely, and when they lifted them there were not enough immune folks. But even that doesn’t mean that the hospital system will be overwhelmed, and that this spike is actually a problem.
 
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Re: Fourth of July Fireworks at Mount Rushmore With Trump and no Social Distancing

Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:54 am

Anyway the USA are saved now that Kanye West Announces 2020 Presidential Run On Twitter.
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Re: Fourth of July Fireworks at Mount Rushmore With Trump and no Social Distancing

Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:15 pm

Olddog wrote:
Anyway the USA are saved now that Kanye West Announces 2020 Presidential Run On Twitter.


I am curious if we are ever gonna see Raz Simone a Presidential candidate.
 
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:21 pm

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Trump is doubling down on the confederacy, which is not surprising to anyone. And I don't think promoting the confederacy is a winning election issue when there's a pandemic and economic depression he's made 1000x worse, while voter perception of black lives matter is shifting remarkably fast, and not in old white racist trash's favor.


I don't recall him mentioning the Confederacy during his speech. Of course voter perception of BLM is shifting remarkably fast, people are literally now getting fired from their jobs by criticizing them on social media. There are now major consequences for not supporting BLM.


https://newsone.com/3968592/nurse-karen ... terrorize/

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afcjets wrote:
you're the one who said this event was a campaign rally.

What else could it possibly be? Nuremburg rally for the illiterate?

It was a campaign rally, he said I was deflecting by talking about the upcoming election so I reminded him who brought up the obvious.
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Re: Fourth of July Fireworks at Mount Rushmore With Trump and no Social Distancing

Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:22 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
This is how a July 4th speech should sound:

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/research/speeches/70486c
Got it, anyone who has a different opinion than you is deflecting.

Sure, let’s explore opinions then: which speech was better - 45’s or the Reagan one I posted?


They're both amazing, though this part of Reagan's speech IMO would easily be painted as hate speech by DNC standards today:

"Believe me, if there's one impression I carry with me after the privilege of holding for 5\1/2\ years the office held by Adams and Jefferson and Lincoln, it is this: that the things that unite us -- America's past of which we're so proud, our hopes and aspirations for the future of the world and this much-loved country -- these things far outweigh what little divides us"

Trump's speech wins IMO though because it is more timely. The cancel culture mob has gotten out of hand and way too powerful and IMO will cause the demise of America if left unchecked and I think Trump's speech and executive order shifted the momentum a bit.
 
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Re: Fourth of July Fireworks at Mount Rushmore With Trump and no Social Distancing

Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:04 pm

afcjets wrote:
They're both amazing, though this part of Reagan's speech IMO would easily be painted as hate speech by DNC standards today:

"Believe me, if there's one impression I carry with me after the privilege of holding for 5\1/2\ years the office held by Adams and Jefferson and Lincoln, it is this: that the things that unite us -- America's past of which we're so proud, our hopes and aspirations for the future of the world and this much-loved country -- these things far outweigh what little divides us"


If you cared to look, you could pretty easily find which Reagan speeches would cause offense today, and it's not that one - it's the one where he proclaimed his support of "state's rights" in the same town where civil rights activists got murdered. I think a lot of the outcry over BLM erasing our history is frankly, playing dumb.
 
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Re: Fourth of July Fireworks at Mount Rushmore With Trump and no Social Distancing

Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:23 pm

Trump's speech was nothing short of a Rally from the 30's. Trump is instilling fear and lies instead of compassion and truth into his base.
Trump is not a president of America. He is a president of fascism, lies, and cowardice.

Most of the below lines had they been spoken by former Presidents would have been roundly criticized as anti American by any other sane base.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/04/politics ... index.html
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