c933103 wrote:Kiwirob wrote:Tugger wrote:So is that right or is that wrong?
If it is wrong then you support working in a coordinated fashion to stop the Chinese from doing the same in other nations waters (as well as supporting efforts to curtail over fishing and illegal fishing by European elements in African waters etc.)
If you are fine with it then you cannot make the argument against the Europeans fishing in African nation's waters as well as Pacific and Indian waters.
So which is it?
where do I start, I think it's ridiculous that European trawlers are exploiting fishing resources in the Pacific and Indian Oceans but it's not so ridiculous for a Pacific Rim country China to fish in the Pacific Ocean, I would think it's ridiculous if Chinese trawlers where fishing in the North or South Atlantic.
Chinese trawlers do fish in North or South Atlantic in large quantities, sometimes even violating the territorial water right of Latin American or African countries and causing those countries to attack thosr ships to retaliate.
Ecuador fishery resources threatened by a fleet of 260 Chinese vessels — MercoPress: https://en.mercopress.com/2020/07/30/ec ... se-vessels
Argentine patrol arrests Chinese jigger illegally fishing in the county's EEZ — MercoPress: https://en.mercopress.com/2020/05/05/ar ... unty-s-eez
Argentina's EEZ "flooded" by Chinese jiggers catching tons of squid — MercoPress: https://en.mercopress.com/2020/04/28/ar ... s-of-squid
Nigerian Navy Thwarts Hijacking of Chinese Fishing Vessel: https://www.maritime-executive.com/arti ... ng-attempt
How China's fishermen are impoverishing Africa | The Spectator: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how ... africa/amp
Chinese fishing trawlers fined for being in South African waters - The Hindu: https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 0.ece/amp/
Ghana: 5 Crew Members of Chinese Vessel Remanded for Illegal Fishing - allAfrica.com: https://allafrica.com/stories/202006050410.html
These are all reports only in 2020 about activity of Chinese fishing vessels in Latin America and Africa.
Most of the time their such behavior went unreported because fishing in open ocean is completely legal in international law on ocean, as long as they aren't infringing the 200 nautical miles exclusive economic zone off the coast of the near country (most of the few linked above are the rarer instances when they infringe those waters AND get caught - which many of times they aren't being caught due to the vast size of ocean), and the behavior in reverse, which is to try to extend control beyond 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone or try to deny other countries' claim on their exclusive economic zone by singlesidedly pushing own interpretation on own's economiz zone, are what caused the current dispite in South China Sea and East China Sea.
Also, these chinese fisherman are armed by the CCP and receive training on the weapons use and tactics. Alongside which, many of these fleets of fishing vessels are escorted by chinese coast guard vessels, which are armed and are used to harass any response by a country if/when they intrude upon territorial waters. Ramming, firing of weapons and general intimidation until the withdrawal of any threat to the fishing fleet has retreated.