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Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with the coronavirus

Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:55 pm

Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is still on oxygen in the hospital a month after he was sent to the hospital for COVID-19. It is unknown where Cain caught the virus, but be attended a Trump rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma back in June and did not wear a mask. Several of Trump's campaign staffers caught COVID-19 at the rally though. He is one of many people on Trump's crew that have caught COVID-19.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:21 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is still on oxygen in the hospital a month after he was sent to the hospital for COVID-19. It is unknown where Cain caught the virus, but be attended a Trump rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma back in June and did not wear a mask. Several of Trump's campaign staffers caught COVID-19 at the rally though. He is one of many people on Trump's crew that have caught COVID-19.
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Do you think he regrets his foolish actions with the mask denial? I bet his family does.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:37 am

The "strategist" whose job is to make everything about politics, supporting Trump who makes everything about himself, now wants the pandemic to not be politicized. Has he told people in his organization ? Has he told Trump ?

Charlie Kirk is still saying he won't wear a mask, masks might kill you, etc
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:54 am

I never wish ill health on anyone, but I am getting close because of these idiots who think they are more manly and preach their stupidity while causing other Idiots to emulate them.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:04 am

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I never wish ill health on anyone, but I am getting close because of these idiots who think they are more manly and preach their stupidity while causing other Idiots to emulate them.


That pretty much sums it up.
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:05 am

I wonder how long it will take for Trump to catch it, especially since a lot of his close aides are starting to get it. It would be interesting to watch as he is not a particularly healthy individual. His age and excessive weight would put him in a rather high risk category.

Although I have a feeling that despite his constant downplaying of the disease, he is taking every step to protect himself in the WH. After all, hypocrisy is one of his many 'qualities'...
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:45 am

Francoflier wrote:
I wonder how long it will take for Trump to catch it, especially since a lot of his close aides are starting to get it. It would be interesting to watch as he is not a particularly healthy individual. His age and excessive weight would put him in a rather high risk category.

Although I have a feeling that despite his constant downplaying of the disease, he is taking every step to protect himself in the WH. After all, hypocrisy is one of his many 'qualities'...


He drags his foot when walking, had trouble with ambulation on a gently sloping ramp and has clear speech/recall issues compared to 5 years ago -
and that’s not even getting into the illogic of his cognition. COVID is the least of his worries.

The WH won’t disclose what’s going on whether it is neurological, degenerative or syphilitic in nature. All I know is this supposed ‘germaphobe’ is known to go raw with models and porn stars, and that makes infection with all sorts of things possible.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:52 am

We've been seeing this a lot with "recovered" COVID-19 patients. Many of them are still not back to baseline and often have waxing and waning signs *and* symptoms for weeks or months after they recover. These include shortness-of-breath with desaturations, fevers (objective), fatigue, "brain fog," poor sleep, and pain. Some of these people were athletes until the day they got sick and now struggle to get up the stairs. Most of them have elevated inflammatory markers. None of them have culturable (plaque-forming) virus.

Anecdotally, some of these "long-haulers" respond to a brief course of steroids, but no well-done placebo-controlled trials have been done. We really have no idea what is happening on a molecular physiology level to explain this phenomenon.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:46 am

Aesma wrote:
The "strategist" whose job is to make everything about politics, supporting Trump who makes everything about himself, now wants the pandemic to not be politicized. Has he told people in his organization ? Has he told Trump ?

Charlie Kirk is still saying he won't wear a mask, masks might kill you, etc

This is the GOP 2020. Plus "keep the colored folk out of the suburbs".
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:02 am

DocLightning wrote:
Many of them are still not back to baseline and often have waxing and waning signs *and* symptoms for weeks or months after they recover.


That's so scary. Do other seasonal diseases behave like this and we just don't hear about it, or is this something entirely new? Seems like most people who get sick with the flu and don't develop pneumonia and ... well ... die seem to recover pretty well. I've been reading about lung scarring and heart damage with COVID and that sounds like it might be permanent.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:02 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
The "strategist" whose job is to make everything about politics, supporting Trump who makes everything about himself, now wants the pandemic to not be politicized. Has he told people in his organization ? Has he told Trump ?

Charlie Kirk is still saying he won't wear a mask, masks might kill you, etc

This is the GOP 2020. Plus "keep the colored folk out of the suburbs".


I thought conservatives were market geniuses? It makes zero sense to assign color value to money - especially in real estate and big-ticket purchases like property.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:27 am

Aaron747 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
The "strategist" whose job is to make everything about politics, supporting Trump who makes everything about himself, now wants the pandemic to not be politicized. Has he told people in his organization ? Has he told Trump ?

Charlie Kirk is still saying he won't wear a mask, masks might kill you, etc

This is the GOP 2020. Plus "keep the colored folk out of the suburbs".


I thought conservatives were market geniuses? It makes zero sense to assign color value to money - especially in real estate and big-ticket purchases like property.

Isn't the whole point of the free market that you sell to anyone and everyone, not who the government tells you is "good" or "bad"
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:03 am

I can't imagine being on oxygen for a month. If he does make it, what quality of life will he have? all these baseball players on the Miami Marlins team, even if they do recovery, will they have the stamina needed to continue their career?
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:23 am

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I thought conservatives were market geniuses? It makes zero sense to assign color value to money - especially in real estate and big-ticket purchases like property.

Don Jr. said this about his Dad when addressing those who accused his Dad of being racist. He said the only color his Dad sees is green, as in money. Trump is definitely into the things you mention and he's not really a conservative, which might explain he was a lifelong Democrat until recently.
 
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:40 am

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Aaron747 wrote:
I thought conservatives were market geniuses? It makes zero sense to assign color value to money - especially in real estate and big-ticket purchases like property.

Don Jr. said this about his Dad when addressing those who accused his Dad of being racist. He said the only color his Dad sees is green, as in money. Trump is definitely into the things you mention and he's not really a conservative, which might explain he was a lifelong Democrat until recently.


Obviously not into it enough to oppose the policy suggestions of Stephen Goebbels.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:52 am

DocLightning wrote:
We've been seeing this a lot with "recovered" COVID-19 patients. Many of them are still not back to baseline and often have waxing and waning signs *and* symptoms for weeks or months after they recover. These include shortness-of-breath with desaturations, fevers (objective), fatigue, "brain fog," poor sleep, and pain. Some of these people were athletes until the day they got sick and now struggle to get up the stairs. Most of them have elevated inflammatory markers. None of them have culturable (plaque-forming) virus.

Anecdotally, some of these "long-haulers" respond to a brief course of steroids, but no well-done placebo-controlled trials have been done. We really have no idea what is happening on a molecular physiology level to explain this phenomenon.


I’ve noticed that with some athletes who got the virus, they really had a long recovery and are way off previous fitness levels.

I live in an area which is suffering from outbreaks as well, so I’m being very cautious for that reason. I’ve worked hard to get the fitness I have at the moment and I don’t want to throw it away.

Just a normal bad flu is enough to push my fitness back a lot, heart rate goes much higher, very quickly and breathing is not as good and it takes a long time to get that back to what it was. Frustrating, but that’s the way it is.

It’s too much of a risk to take chances with these virus yet so many people are just dismissing it like it is nothing. So irresponsible.

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DocLightning wrote:
Many of them are still not back to baseline and often have waxing and waning signs *and* symptoms for weeks or months after they recover.


That's so scary. Do other seasonal diseases behave like this and we just don't hear about it, or is this something entirely new? Seems like most people who get sick with the flu and don't develop pneumonia and ... well ... die seem to recover pretty well. I've been reading about lung scarring and heart damage with COVID and that sounds like it might be permanent.



I can’t give a doctors perspective, but a normal heavy flu knocks me about for a while after (probably a good three weeks or so) in the ways I mentioned above. I measure everything, power, heart rate and I also note perceived exertion. When things aren’t right, you know.

But also another thing is because you don’t tend to be doing much when you are crook, it’s like my legs just don’t work as they used to, they just feel heavier, just not as good. But given the level of physical activity I do per day, that’s expected.

The left overs of the COVID virus are very worrying.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:01 pm

DocLightning wrote:
We've been seeing this a lot with "recovered" COVID-19 patients. Many of them are still not back to baseline and often have waxing and waning signs *and* symptoms for weeks or months after they recover. These include shortness-of-breath with desaturations, fevers (objective), fatigue, "brain fog," poor sleep, and pain. Some of these people were athletes until the day they got sick and now struggle to get up the stairs. Most of them have elevated inflammatory markers. None of them have culturable (plaque-forming) virus.

Anecdotally, some of these "long-haulers" respond to a brief course of steroids, but no well-done placebo-controlled trials have been done. We really have no idea what is happening on a molecular physiology level to explain this phenomenon.


This may not be relevant, but in my family, there was a correlation between how sick they got in the 1918 flu epidemic (which was in living memory for my grandparents) and Parkinson's disease decades later, around the 1950s. My grandparents didn't get sick, but their siblings did, and then got acute Parkinson's years later. There is some support for a linkage.

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2019 ... disorders/
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:25 pm

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I never wish ill health on anyone, but I am getting close because of these idiots who think they are more manly and preach their stupidity while causing other Idiots to emulate them.

I'm beyond that point. Good riddance to anyone who gets COVID because they decided to to listen to the experts. It's one thing if you follow all the steps to prevent the spread or catching it; it's another when you purposely ignore experts' advice (for whatever reason).

If you're told not to play with matches over and over, you become immune to feeling any sadness if they get burned or die. At some point, the "We told you so" brigade needs to come out.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:43 pm

He has died now. "Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized for coronavirus"

https://www.businessinsider.com/herman- ... ?r=US&IR=T


"We're heartbroken, and the world is poorer: Herman Cain has gone to be with the Lord"

You’re never ready for the kind of news we are grappling with this morning. But we have no choice but to seek and find God’s strength and comfort to deal with it.

Herman Cain – our boss, our friend, like a father to so many of us – has passed away. He’s entering the presence of the Savior he’s served
as an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta for, and preparing for his reward.


https://hermancain.com/heartbroken-worl ... gone-lord/

(in case site is offline just try again later, allot of traffic to the site).
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:45 pm

Pretty damn callous up there.
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:47 pm

afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
I thought conservatives were market geniuses? It makes zero sense to assign color value to money - especially in real estate and big-ticket purchases like property.

Don Jr. said this about his Dad when addressing those who accused his Dad of being racist. He said the only color his Dad sees is green, as in money. Trump is definitely into the things you mention and he's not really a conservative, which might explain he was a lifelong Democrat until recently.

He has a long documented track record of being a racist. Even the Nixon administration went after him for being a racist.

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
He has died now. "Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized for coronavirus"

https://www.businessinsider.com/herman- ... ?r=US&IR=T


"We're heartbroken, and the world is poorer: Herman Cain has gone to be with the Lord"

You’re never ready for the kind of news we are grappling with this morning. But we have no choice but to seek and find God’s strength and comfort to deal with it.

Herman Cain – our boss, our friend, like a father to so many of us – has passed away. He’s entering the presence of the Savior he’s served
as an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta for, and preparing for his reward.


https://hermancain.com/heartbroken-worl ... gone-lord/

(in case site is offline just try again later, allot of traffic to the site).

Play stupid games; win stupid prizes. Hope he had fun at that Tulsa rally.

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Pretty damn callous up there.

The GOP has been "pretty damn callous" about 150,000+ deaths and historic massive economic damage and dislocation, so your point is laughable.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:48 pm

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I'm beyond that point. Good riddance to anyone who gets COVID because they decided to NOT listen to the experts. It's one thing if you follow all the steps to prevent the spread or catching it; it's another when you purposely ignore experts' advice (for whatever reason).

If you're told not to play with matches over and over, you become immune to feeling any sadness if they get burned or die. At some point, the "We told you so" brigade needs to come out.

Too late to edit...but it's supposed to read as such.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:52 pm

My condolences to his family and friends.

Other than that there just isn't anything to say.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:07 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
I thought conservatives were market geniuses? It makes zero sense to assign color value to money - especially in real estate and big-ticket purchases like property.

Don Jr. said this about his Dad when addressing those who accused his Dad of being racist. He said the only color his Dad sees is green, as in money. Trump is definitely into the things you mention and he's not really a conservative, which might explain he was a lifelong Democrat until recently.

He has a long documented track record of being a racist. Even the Nixon administration went after him for being a racist.

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
He has died now. "Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized for coronavirus"

https://www.businessinsider.com/herman- ... ?r=US&IR=T


"We're heartbroken, and the world is poorer: Herman Cain has gone to be with the Lord"

You’re never ready for the kind of news we are grappling with this morning. But we have no choice but to seek and find God’s strength and comfort to deal with it.

Herman Cain – our boss, our friend, like a father to so many of us – has passed away. He’s entering the presence of the Savior he’s served
as an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta for, and preparing for his reward.


https://hermancain.com/heartbroken-worl ... gone-lord/

(in case site is offline just try again later, allot of traffic to the site).

Play stupid games; win stupid prizes. Hope he had fun at that Tulsa rally.



Hmmmm.. there's John Lewis, then ...there's Herman Cain.

...the former, a titan, a champion for the betterment of humanity demonstrated by a lifelong dedicated towards pursuit of equality and justice.

The latter, a glaring example of achieved education turned personal success crowned by a devotion to greed and unbridled selfishness.
Far from any hero or sainthood...unless your list of heroes are the greediest humans ever.

He should have put that education to use and worn a mask at that stupid foolish Tulsa Rally instead of following the lead of a completely ill-educated moron who he idolized til the end. Talk about a waste of education - if ever an example needed?

He gets the trophy hands down.

John Lewis' memory is sealed in history, Cain will be forgotten before the end of summer.



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Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:18 pm

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My condolences to his family and friends.

Other than that there just isn't anything to say.

Well said.
 
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:36 pm

Louie Gohmert would be rul scared right about now if he could read.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:27 pm

not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.
 
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:31 pm

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Louie Gohmert would be rul scared right about now if he could read.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Yep, a conundrum indeed.

Dig deep, seriously deep for any possible crumbs of reason and sanity OR go with the 'as advertised TV accusatory braggadocchio' character buoyed by unrivaled depths of ignorance...

My money is on the latter...

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Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:33 pm

I just hope Mr. Cain's death from Covid-19 will get some fellow Republicans and Trump to reconsider their obscenely bad policies as to the Pandemic including his 'rallies'. Sadly, it likely won't do much
 
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:33 pm

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not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk.

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He purposely stated he would not wear a mask. And even while in the hospital, he did not backtrack as others did.

Congratulations to him for winning the Darwin Award, COVID-19 edition.
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I just hope Mr. Cain's death from Covid-19 will get some fellow Republicans and Trump to reconsider their obscenely bad policies as to the Pandemic including his 'rallies'. Sadly, it likely won't do much

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Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:26 pm

Which will be Cain's most lasting most 'notable' moment?

1. the Nine-Nine-Nine Tax plan?

2. Uzbeki-Beki-Beki-Stan

3. Pizza Hut chain

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Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:34 pm

BN747 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Louie Gohmert would be rul scared right about now if he could read.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yep, a conundrum indeed.
Dig deep, seriously deep for any possible crumbs of reason and sanity OR go with the 'as advertised TV accusatory braggadocchio' character buoyed by unrivaled depths of ignorance...


Mr. Gohmert was not elected because of his "intelligence"...
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Which will be Cain's most lasting most 'notable' moment?

1. the Nine-Nine-Nine Tax plan?

2. Uzbeki-Beki-Beki-Stan

3. Pizza Hut chain

BN747


He actually said "Uzbeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan." And he was the CEO of Godfather's Pizza, not Pizza Hut.

https://youtu.be/0ZQ50ZXwPyw (begins at 00:21)
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LittleFokker wrote:
BN747 wrote:
Which will be Cain's most lasting most 'notable' moment?

1. the Nine-Nine-Nine Tax plan?

2. Uzbeki-Beki-Beki-Stan

3. Pizza Hut chain

BN747


He actually said "Uzbeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan." And he was the CEO of Godfather's Pizza, not Pizza Hut.

https://youtu.be/0ZQ50ZXwPyw (begins at 00:21)


Those two and Papa John's are the nastiest pizza, so that part is irrelevant.

It's Domino's, Little Ceasar's or any pizzeria in NYC or not at all.

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Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:50 pm

I would say RIP, but he won't be missed. How Trump, the Oklahoma governor, or any other GOP leader taking the MAGA approach to the virus is still in power is beyond me, even in a Banana Republic like the US
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:56 pm

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.
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Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:02 pm

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DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.


You shouldn't be surprised NIK the tolerant left is anything but. They preach peace and love while bashing your head in with a baseball bat if you don't agree with them. But that said this virus is no joke I might be right leaning but I always took this seriously. I have plenty of masks and I only go out when absolutely need to.
 
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Re: Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with the coronavirus

Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:07 pm

I'm tired of being spiteful. Cain's death is a tragedy - albeit an avoidable one. The reasons that it happened can't be swept under the rug.
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:32 pm

stratosphere wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.


You shouldn't be surprised NIK the tolerant left is anything but. They preach peace and love while bashing your head in with a baseball bat if you don't agree with them. But that said this virus is no joke I might be right leaning but I always took this seriously. I have plenty of masks and I only go out when absolutely need to.


Wow, suddenly EQUALITY has meaning to the very people who are strident supporters of the very people who would dare deny Equality from others.

How rich is that?

Now fellas, simply apply your demand for 'equal' treatment in death (sorrow, compassion and sympathy) to the living if you can somehow find the means to do so.

The passing an insignificant person who ate up the spotlight in the public arena with clownish conduct when he easily could have been 1% of John Lewis' commitment to the betterment of millions in America. He chose the trump route or the stupid route.

A simple peek over into the John Lewis passing thread shows neither of you showing a shred of that good ol' ' 'equal' treatment in death (sorrow, compassion and sympathy) from none of you seeking it here for this foolish man.

Why is that?

It is because a true champion of the people, a man who literally risked his life and walked the line many many times is of little to no importance to people who would pull the stunts you are pulling right this minute.

The call for everyone to morn everyone equality in death while failing miserably to do the each same with the living...it's an assault on intelligence from an every possible angle.
It cheapens the value in morning and damn sure does when the struggling (living) millions could benefit from your false concerns were they truly authentic.

Since they are not existent for the living, then why on earth show anyone follow your false leads in any other corner human affairs?

Arguments on whether trump should rise above ignorance and pay homage to a real true life hero of humanity everywhere is not a direct expression and sign of gratitude of such a deserving soul.

I have pool of additional crocodile tears should anyone run short.

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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:34 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.

If MAGA's (not Rs, I am conservative myself) had any brain cells left, they would understand that they are not making fun of him for being republican, they are making fun of him for hold a rally and not wearing a mask and then dying. But all you guys do is defend, defend, defend.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm

stratosphere wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.


You shouldn't be surprised NIK the tolerant left is anything but. They preach peace and love while bashing your head in with a baseball bat if you don't agree with them. But that said this virus is no joke I might be right leaning but I always took this seriously. I have plenty of masks and I only go out when absolutely need to.

Tolerance only goes so far. If an idiot like this goes into a giant rally in the middle of a pandemic with no mask on AND tells others not to wear one and then dies, there is only so much tolerance the left can give before laughing their ass off.
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Re: Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with the coronavirus

Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 pm

Pro-Trump group deletes image mocking masks after co-founder dies from COVID-19
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/pro-tr ... s-from-19/

This kind of nonsense is the path Herman Cain spearheaded following cues from the equally ignorant US president.

Guys like these people, who would lead a flock of sheep over a cliff...is to be honored and respected according to those who in admiration of foolish behavior and foolish leadership/


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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:28 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.


It was totally and utterly avoidable. "Stupid" is not the right word. Dangerous is the better term for it. I'm fed up with these types whinging about "oh, my rights are being infringed on because I have to wear a mask".

What about my rights to not get very sick from this virus? I'm right in the middle of a hot-spot of outbreaks of this virus and it's all because of people like this guy who won't act responsibly, they are infected with the virus and then are spreading it by going out to public gatherings, restaurants, etc. Then others are from areas in lockdown and are falsifying information to try and get out of those areas. :mad:

No, I'm not going to be nice about that. I'm doing the right thing by avoiding public gatherings and I have masks here in case I have to make an essential trip to get groceries or the like. If I don't need to go out, I won't. People like this guy inspire others to act irresponsibly as well making it worse for everyone.

If he had acted responsibly, he would be alive today and wouldn't have friends and family grieving at this moment. I'm not laughing about this, I'm just angry. If the guy was a Democrat, I'd be equally scathing and critical.
 
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Re: Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with the coronavirus

Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:14 am

Well, Herman Cain learned science and virology the hard way.

Darwinism at its finest.
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:46 am

NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.

If that is a "stupid mistake" than the Trump administration's leadership on the pandemic has been a "stupid mistake" since he was parroting it until the end.

stratosphere wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.


You shouldn't be surprised NIK the tolerant left is anything but. They preach peace and love while bashing your head in with a baseball bat if you don't agree with them. But that said this virus is no joke I might be right leaning but I always took this seriously. I have plenty of masks and I only go out when absolutely need to.


Imagine if you had any of that phony baloney outrage for the other 150,000 that died and tens of thousands that will continue to die precisely because the Trump administration and Cain himself believed the exact opposite of your last two sentences.
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Re: Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with the coronavirus

Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:04 am

As has been said many times, you cannot fix stupid. Here in the USA we have a giant case of stupid that is killing people. We know who the leader of stupid is for sure.
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Re: Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with the coronavirus

Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:20 am

I wouldn't wish a COVID-19 caused death on anyone. I hope his family is getting the care and support it needs.

But this is a clear Darwin award nomination.
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:19 am

stratosphere wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why people are tearing Herman Cain apart.

Why tear this man apart for attending this rally, he may have gotten it there or somewhere else. It's impossible to tell since the coronavirus is airborne. We are all at risk. While I don't think it's smart to attend fundraisers or rallies. I don't think of Herman Cain as being a selfish man, or a greedy man. Any black leader in the GOP is a good thing. May his family find comfort, and his name not be tarnished by people who didn't know him. If his own family wrote a book about him being a asshole, than that's different, but nobody in his family has done that.


It's ghoulish to see people treating a dead man in the fashion being exhibited here. He made a stupid mistake but I think it's that "R" next to his name for if it was a "D" the story would be far different. It's just another example how bad we are becoming.


You shouldn't be surprised NIK the tolerant left is anything but. They preach peace and love while bashing your head in with a baseball bat if you don't agree with them. But that said this virus is no joke I might be right leaning but I always took this seriously. I have plenty of masks and I only go out when absolutely need to.

Having observed the US political playground from the other side of the pond for some decades, both “left” and “right” don’t have a problem to throwing dirt to each other. So pointing to those left Democrates doesn’t make your complaint any stronger.
Real problem for the US is that COVID-19 was (and is) heavily politicised. By calling COVID-19 “a Democratic hoax”, that genie went out the bottle a long time ago.
 
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Re: Herman Cain Still on Oxygen

Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:42 am

I wonder if Cain had signed a paper like attendees at the rally, that they wouldn't sue the campaign if they caught COVID ? If not, I wonder if his family will sue ? It's the US after all.
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