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How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:24 pm

In movies like Die Hard 2, Airport 1975, Airport 1977, Murder on Flight 502, etc have most of the times, 747s as the main plane. Why? I know in Die Hard, there was a DC-8 and L1011 involved, but one of the main planes was a 747. But still why? I mean, the only reason I can think of is that the Non Aviation Fans only know one plane: the 747.
 
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:33 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
In movies like Die Hard 2, Airport 1975, Airport 1977, Murder on Flight 502, etc have most of the times, 747s as the main plane. Why? I know in Die Hard, there was a DC-8 and L1011 involved, but one of the main planes was a 747. But still why? I mean, the only reason I can think of is that the Non Aviation Fans only know one plane: the 747.


The 747 was the most visually distinctive aircraft of the time, with that noticeable hump, size, and 4 engines. Thus it was a popular aircraft type choice for movies and tv shows.

Some movies off the top of my head that used other aircraft types:

Passenger 57 - L1011
The Concorde...Airport '79 - Concorde (duh)
Airplane! - B707
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:34 pm

It's the biggest and most iconic plane. Everyone wants to see big things blow up, not little things.
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:49 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
It's the biggest and most iconic plane. Everyone wants to see big things blow up, not little things.


This, plus the practical consideration that with a larger interior mockup complete with a staircase there is a lot more interesting angles to shoot from and a lot more room for the crew to move around in on set.
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:11 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
It's the biggest and most iconic plane. Everyone wants to see big things blow up, not little things.




Well, there's other biggies out there too, right? (L1011, DC-10, Super 70 DC-8s, and in the 1990s, MD-11s, A330s, and A340s.)
 
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:12 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Boeing757100 wrote:
In movies like Die Hard 2, Airport 1975, Airport 1977, Murder on Flight 502, etc have most of the times, 747s as the main plane. Why? I know in Die Hard, there was a DC-8 and L1011 involved, but one of the main planes was a 747. But still why? I mean, the only reason I can think of is that the Non Aviation Fans only know one plane: the 747.


The 747 was the most visually distinctive aircraft of the time, with that noticeable hump, size, and 4 engines. Thus it was a popular aircraft type choice for movies and tv shows.

Some movies off the top of my head that used other aircraft types:

Passenger 57 - L1011
The Concorde...Airport '79 - Concorde (duh)
Airplane! - B707



And one other not very popular horror movie created by The Asylum called "Flight 666" used a 727.
 
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:14 pm

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TWA772LR wrote:
It's the biggest and most iconic plane. Everyone wants to see big things blow up, not little things.




Well, there's other biggies out there too, right? (L1011, DC-10, Super 70 DC-8s, and in the 1990s, MD-11s, A330s, and A340s.)


And there were so many old ones that were due for scrapping and probably available for next to nothing.
 
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:45 pm

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TWA772LR wrote:
It's the biggest and most iconic plane. Everyone wants to see big things blow up, not little things.


Well, there's other biggies out there too, right? (L1011, DC-10, Super 70 DC-8s, and in the 1990s, MD-11s, A330s, and A340s.)


True*, but very very few non-aviation fan people would be able to identify any one of those from either the outside or the inside whereas a 747 is instantly recognizable to most of the public.

* Super 70 DC-8s are long but are still single-aisle narrowbodies, roughly the same width inside as an A320, 707, or 737.
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:57 am

Availability.

Let's not forget that before CGI, film makers need to do a lot of aerial shots, and they need to have the plane on site in order to shoot around it. So they need to lease a plane from an airline to do so. That's why in the 1980s & 1990s there was an abundance of L-1011s and 747s in movies (and if they need to blow a plane up, DC-8s and 707s). The newfangled twinjets were all busy flying on mainline routes.

With the advent of realistic CGI nowadays, the need to lease a plane receded.
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:35 pm

In the 1985 movie "White Nights" a 747 overruns a military airfield in Russia but it was actually a 707 mocked up to look like a 747, if you look closely at the front-on shot towards the end of the crash and the aerial aftermath you can see the 707 cockpit windows.
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:51 am

In the 1980 movie "Ordinary People" the characters travel from Chicago to Houston on a TWA 747. It just shows the plane landing. There's absolutely no way any airline ever flew ORD-IAH on a 747.
 
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:47 am

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In the 1985 movie "White Nights" a 747 overruns a military airfield in Russia but it was actually a 707 mocked up to look like a 747, if you look closely at the front-on shot towards the end of the crash and the aerial aftermath you can see the 707 cockpit windows.


I just looked it up on YouTube. That was a pretty impressive mock-up of a 747. Somebody went a long way to make it look realistic. It wasn't just adding the hump, but even painting on all the exits of a 747.
 
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Re: How come in a lot of action movies with plane crashing involved, most of the times there are 747s?

Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:08 pm

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andz wrote:
In the 1985 movie "White Nights" a 747 overruns a military airfield in Russia but it was actually a 707 mocked up to look like a 747, if you look closely at the front-on shot towards the end of the crash and the aerial aftermath you can see the 707 cockpit windows.


I just looked it up on YouTube. That was a pretty impressive mock-up of a 747. Somebody went a long way to make it look realistic. It wasn't just adding the hump, but even painting on all the exits of a 747.

From Wikipedia:

Filmmakers normally utilized models to film the crash-landing of an aircraft as expensive as a Boeing 747. For the filming of the crash sequence of a British Orient 747 at the beginning of White Nights, two different full-sized aircraft were used.

For shots representing the British Orient 747 while still aloft, a rebadged Aer Lingus Boeing 747 performed a touch-and-go landing at RAF Machrihanish.

For shots representing the British Orient 747 after touchdown, the production team purchased an older Boeing 707 from South America. The 707 was converted with the famous 747 hump, a painted cockpit and a small vision slit on the original cockpit, so the stunt pilots could perform the live action crash-landing. Due to the size differences, forced perspective was used to give the impression of a larger aircraft and short actors used in a brief sequence where a vehicle is almost hit.[citation needed] The 707 aircraft in question had originally been built for South African Airways (SAA) in July of 1960 and registered as ZS-CKC (serial number 17928), and was retired from SAA in 1977. It was next operated by Panama World Airways as N90651, and commercially retired by same in 1981. Finally in September 1984 the aircraft was purchased by Columbia Pictures for the making of White Nights.[6]
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