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How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:40 pm

Not so long ago tattoos were mostly popular with Sailors and Biker gangs


In the last decade or so however they’ve become incredibly popular with younger people


Not knocking them although they’re not for me I’m just curious as to why they are so ubiquitous
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:12 pm

To quote Lisa Simpson, to be rebellious. In a conformist sort of way. ;)
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:57 pm

I can admire certain tattoos. A very detailed sleeve with colors or an abstract tribal design. But tattooing names or brands or logos...WHY? I remember a guy with the Nike logo on his calf and a bowling pin on the other.

Where they are placed also determines if I find them tasteful or not. Anything from the neck up is a solid no for me (except scleral tattoo which I find really fascinating). Designs all over the place also get a no.

And it sucks...when dating, I prefer guys without tattoos (or if they have one, at most one or two). But tattoos seem to be a thing in the gay world as well so I've slowly started tolerating them.
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:26 pm

Personally, I could care less about tattoos. But, I often see a person who has had the tattoo done years ago and it looks like it too! Sorry, but as you get older, skin sags and that great tattoo you had isn't there anymore. Just my own preference.
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:56 pm

I personally do not like them, and some of them just look really trashy IMHO as they're a hodgepodge of whatever mood struck the wearer. I can't really look at someone with tattoos without imagining them in 30+ years as muscle and skin tone change dramatically as one ages. Admittedly I grew up a rather sheltered young kid out in white suburbia, and my first real exposure to tattoos was a family trip to Dollywood (it just writes its own joke, I know). An image that has been seared into my brain was one of a middle aged white lady, not morbidly obese but she wasn't the thinnest creature God ever made, being pushed around in a wheelchair by a guy she called "Joe." On her bicep, faded and the letters sagging and misshapen, was the word "Bill."
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:59 pm

Good question, I have often wondered the same.
Not a big fan of tattoos at all. Most of them are poorly done in the first place. A co-worker of mine had her pets name misspelled......I couldn't believe it. Pay all of that money, and then have to tell small lies to people saying, yeah it looks great.....Tattoo removal business' must be busy, because I wouldn't be able to stand looking at the same sketching on my arm / leg / ass for years.
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:01 pm

I find them massively distasteful, especially the ones crawling up necks and down legs. Youngest brother wanted one a few years ago. I threatened to cut him off if he got one. Not sure if it was my threats or the modelling agency he was with which dissuaded him.

Still seem like a rite of passage for those enlisting in the services. Neighbour's kid recently signed up has a tiger tat on his chest which is actually rather well done and a brother in law has a very discreet one with 'loyalty' and his unit number on the inside of his arm near his acf.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:55 pm

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I find them massively distasteful, especially the ones crawling up necks and down legs. Youngest brother wanted one a few years ago. I threatened to cut him off if he got one. Not sure if it was my threats or the modelling agency he was with which dissuaded him.

Still seem like a rite of passage for those enlisting in the services. Neighbour's kid recently signed up has a tiger tat on his chest which is actually rather well done and a brother in law has a very discreet one with 'loyalty' and his unit number on the inside of his arm near his acf.


You would give up your relationship with your brother because of a tattoo?
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:35 am

They don't appeal to me so I don't think I'll ever get one. However I can admire ones that are really well done and tasteful.
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:14 am

A fad, every generation has a fad. Most don't involve permanent scarring though.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:50 am

LMP737 wrote:
To quote Lisa Simpson, to be rebellious. In a conformist sort of way. ;)


All the individuals need them to fit in with all the other woke individuals.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:15 am

LMP737 wrote:
To quote Lisa Simpson, to be rebellious. In a conformist sort of way. ;)

Not to mention one of the schoolgirls in Derry Girls: "I'm not going to be an individual on my own!".

I've never been tempted to get a tattoo, for one simple reason: a very low boredom threshold. I know I'd get fed up with it after a year or two. However, I have no problem with them on other people, as long as they don't cover-up too much.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:36 am

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I threatened to cut him off if he got one. Not sure if it was my threats or the modelling agency he was with which dissuaded him.


You threatened to cut your brother out of your life over a tattoo?
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:10 pm

For all fans of tattoos; good that you all have (and most likely will) never seen(see) your own lymph nodes, involved in the tattooed part of your body. Especially tattoo colors yellow, orange, green....are interesting.

With time, tattoo colors are whitening, but you need not to fear, the color particles got lost; they are just somewhere else... :wave:
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:43 pm

It lets people who will never be anybody think that they are. They're making a statement, just not the one they're trying to make.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:19 pm

What’s sad to me is seeing a beautiful woman with tattoos, it’s almost like graffiti

you wonder if she’ll still be happy about that decision for the rest of her life !
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:15 pm

Max Q wrote:
What’s sad to me is seeing a beautiful woman with tattoos, it’s almost like graffiti

you wonder if she’ll still be happy about that decision for the rest of her life !


I agree. On a woman one small tasteful tattoo on the ankle or top of the shoulder is fine. Anything else I find not appealing. Now on a male I don't care but I never was into them I still don't have one. My brother did have one large one on his back. Unfortunately it became another way to identify him when I read his autopsy it confirmed to me it was really him. After his death I thought about getting one in his honor with my mother and father included as they are gone too. Something that would include all 3 of them. But then Covid came along and it got put on the back burner for now.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:10 pm

There is definitely a peer pressure/herd mentality aspect to them in the past couple decades. I can't count the amount of times an acquaintance has gotten a tattoo, showed it to me, asked me if I have any, then upon finding out I have none, asked me why I don't have one. Once I said the reason is because I didn't want to look like a conformist, but that didn't go over too well.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:23 pm

Kno wrote:
Chaostheory wrote:
I threatened to cut him off if he got one. Not sure if it was my threats or the modelling agency he was with which dissuaded him.


You threatened to cut your brother out of your life over a tattoo?


Not what he said. I think he means financial support but will let him speak for himself.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:32 pm

I'm not a fan. Even those done by "above average intelligence" people, usually not the worse ones or at the worse position on the body, still seem like a "spur of the moment" thing. Who wants "spur of the moment" to define you forever ?

The reason is clearly celebs wearing them, football players, singers, etc. And now on display day in day out on Instagram etc.

I think nowadays being a rebel => not wearing one...
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:37 pm

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I'm not a fan. Even those done by "above average intelligence" people, usually not the worse ones or at the worse position on the body, still seem like a "spur of the moment" thing. Who wants "spur of the moment" to define you forever ?

The reason is clearly celebs wearing them, football players, singers, etc. And now on display day in day out on Instagram etc.

I think nowadays being a rebel => not wearing one...


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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:40 pm

Also, "porn stars" sport plenty of them, not a good sign...
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:20 pm

I like tattoos. I have a few here and there. I don't get face tattoos but whatever.

My biggest pro for tattoos is also our new favorite "reality" show Killer Camp Carl, Warren, and Sam.
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:48 pm

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What’s sad to me is seeing a beautiful woman with tattoos, it’s almost like graffiti

you wonder if she’ll still be happy about that decision for the rest of her life !
That says a lot about her mentality which could mean that she's not as beautiful on the inside as the outside.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:44 pm

We find ways to not employ those who mutilate their body. I often wonder if they'll ever figure out the real reason for not getting the position.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:29 am

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We find ways to not employ those who mutilate their body. I often wonder if they'll ever figure out the real reason for not getting the position.


This is common at a lot of employers actually.

Over in Japan, there were a lot of young Japanese and foreigners who were way into tattoos. Little did they realize that employers there almost universally reject candidates with tats.
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:53 am

This is really interesting. It's a generational thing. Now young people get a tattoo without a thought, and it does NOT mean what it used to. To me, a tattoo is a rejection of your body, a rejection of your original birth, a sign of instability and self-destruction. If you've had a hard life, and you need rebirth, I get it. Tats are cool. But it's a sign you have been to the absolute brink, your life was destroyed, and you barely made it. Tattoos are a sign of damaged goods and have been for centuries. For young people to do it casually or for "fun" is just weird. It shows generational difference. Many non-US or European countries still do not accept it.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:11 am

LCDFlight wrote:
This is really interesting. It's a generational thing. Now young people get a tattoo without a thought, and it does NOT mean what it used to. To me, a tattoo is a rejection of your body, a rejection of your original birth, a sign of instability and self-destruction. If you've had a hard life, and you need rebirth, I get it. Tats are cool. But it's a sign you have been to the absolute brink, your life was destroyed, and you barely made it. Tattoos are a sign of damaged goods and have been for centuries. For young people to do it casually or for "fun" is just weird. It shows generational difference. Many non-US or European countries still do not accept it.


You are speaking in absolutes though - 'tattoos are a sign of damaged goods' mostly in Western, Christian culture. If you are Maori or member of another Pacific Islander group, you are a weirdo and outsider if you don't have at least one.
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:01 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Over in Japan, there were a lot of young Japanese and foreigners who were way into tattoos. Little did they realize that employers there almost universally reject candidates with tats.

It's not unusual to find "Guest with tattoo not allowed" on websites when booking hotels in Japan.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:49 am

Braybuddy wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Over in Japan, there were a lot of young Japanese and foreigners who were way into tattoos. Little did they realize that employers there almost universally reject candidates with tats.

It's not unusual to find "Guest with tattoo not allowed" on websites when booking hotels in Japan.


Tattoos are associated with organized crime. Not sure why Japanese assume that translates to foreign visitors too, but that’s insular Japan for ya.
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:37 pm

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LCDFlight wrote:
This is really interesting. It's a generational thing. Now young people get a tattoo without a thought, and it does NOT mean what it used to. To me, a tattoo is a rejection of your body, a rejection of your original birth, a sign of instability and self-destruction. If you've had a hard life, and you need rebirth, I get it. Tats are cool. But it's a sign you have been to the absolute brink, your life was destroyed, and you barely made it. Tattoos are a sign of damaged goods and have been for centuries. For young people to do it casually or for "fun" is just weird. It shows generational difference. Many non-US or European countries still do not accept it.


You are speaking in absolutes though - 'tattoos are a sign of damaged goods' mostly in Western, Christian culture. If you are Maori or member of another Pacific Islander group, you are a weirdo and outsider if you don't have at least one.


You are right, and I'm not trying to be absolute about it. I'm not very old & there are many my age who find tattoos normal.

Some stuff I found online

"The majority of Muslims find tattoos haram (forbidden) based on oral traditions..."

"some young boys and girls will get a little tattoo on their body for cool. However, China society has a deep prejudice about tattoos, most Chinese think getting tattoos is a signal for a person to corruption and decadence, they may soon commit a crime or join a gang."

But, it seems India and Africa are more accustomed to it.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:09 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
LCDFlight wrote:
This is really interesting. It's a generational thing. Now young people get a tattoo without a thought, and it does NOT mean what it used to. To me, a tattoo is a rejection of your body, a rejection of your original birth, a sign of instability and self-destruction. If you've had a hard life, and you need rebirth, I get it. Tats are cool. But it's a sign you have been to the absolute brink, your life was destroyed, and you barely made it. Tattoos are a sign of damaged goods and have been for centuries. For young people to do it casually or for "fun" is just weird. It shows generational difference. Many non-US or European countries still do not accept it.


You are speaking in absolutes though - 'tattoos are a sign of damaged goods' mostly in Western, Christian culture. If you are Maori or member of another Pacific Islander group, you are a weirdo and outsider if you don't have at least one.
I actually didn't see that many Maori with tattoos when I was in New Zealand a few years ago. They were there but I've probably seen more "Maori" tattoos on Caucasians in the US than in NZ.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:00 pm

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Max Q wrote:
What’s sad to me is seeing a beautiful woman with tattoos, it’s almost like graffiti

you wonder if she’ll still be happy about that decision for the rest of her life !
That says a lot about her mentality which could mean that she's not as beautiful on the inside as the outside.




Maybe


But that’s the case with all women, tattooed or not.


As some posters have said I think a lot of it is peer pressure and not really understanding the permanence of the decision
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:31 pm

johns624 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
LCDFlight wrote:
This is really interesting. It's a generational thing. Now young people get a tattoo without a thought, and it does NOT mean what it used to. To me, a tattoo is a rejection of your body, a rejection of your original birth, a sign of instability and self-destruction. If you've had a hard life, and you need rebirth, I get it. Tats are cool. But it's a sign you have been to the absolute brink, your life was destroyed, and you barely made it. Tattoos are a sign of damaged goods and have been for centuries. For young people to do it casually or for "fun" is just weird. It shows generational difference. Many non-US or European countries still do not accept it.


You are speaking in absolutes though - 'tattoos are a sign of damaged goods' mostly in Western, Christian culture. If you are Maori or member of another Pacific Islander group, you are a weirdo and outsider if you don't have at least one.
I actually didn't see that many Maori with tattoos when I was in New Zealand a few years ago. They were there but I've probably seen more "Maori" tattoos on Caucasians in the US than in NZ.


How many of them did you see nude?
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:30 pm

Insecure people crying for attention perhaps??? Gotta have some ink because other people do and I want to think that I look cool even if to others I actually look like an idiot?
Don't get me wrong, a well thought out and well done inking can be a beautiful work of art (until the skin starts aging anyway). Unfortunately far too many people have turned themselves into what can only be described as incoherent looking doodle pads.
 
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Insecure people crying for attention perhaps??? Gotta have some ink because other people do and I want to think that I look cool even if to others I actually look like an idiot?
Don't get me wrong, a well thought out and well done inking can be a beautiful work of art (until the skin starts aging anyway). Unfortunately far too many people have turned themselves into what can only be described as incoherent looking doodle pads.


Yes. I'm sure Justin Bieber has relatively high quality tattoos, but it still doesn't make him cool or edgy. Sorry... it is partly just a mindless fashion trend.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:32 pm

FTMCPIUS wrote:
We find ways to not employ those who mutilate their body. I often wonder if they'll ever figure out the real reason for not getting the position.


I don't think I'd want to work for an employer who made me strip off my suit during the interview anyway.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:49 pm

Flaps wrote:
Insecure people crying for attention perhaps??? Gotta have some ink because other people do and I want to think that I look cool even if to others I actually look like an idiot?
Don't get me wrong, a well thought out and well done inking can be a beautiful work of art (until the skin starts aging anyway). Unfortunately far too many people have turned themselves into what can only be described as incoherent looking doodle pads.


Many people who have tattoos that I have seen are far from insecure nor do they need attention. For me, it is giving people a quick glance into what is important to me. A conversation starter. But, I have to be wearing shorts and a tank top. I made a vow long ago to never ever get any tattoos below the elbow or above the neck. I only have five and I would love to get more. I like they way the feel too.
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:51 am

fortytwoeyes wrote:
FTMCPIUS wrote:
We find ways to not employ those who mutilate their body. I often wonder if they'll ever figure out the real reason for not getting the position.


I don't think I'd want to work for an employer who made me strip off my suit during the interview anyway.

Visible tats.
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:53 am

This thread is hilarious.

In sum it's like: "I don't have any tattoos and don't like them, yet somehow I'm qualified to explain why people get them."
 
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:54 am

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To quote Lisa Simpson, to be rebellious. In a conformist sort of way. ;)

The joung generation always has the problem how to be rebellious to the old generation, but at the same time conform with their peer group.
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For me, it is giving people a quick glance into what is important to me.

More than twenty years back a woman with a snail house tattoo on her shoulder explained the meaning to me. Is this common that tattoos got meaning?

Question to all:
I was wondering if I should tattoo "Trump" on my arm.
What's your opinion?
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I like they way the feel too.
You like pain? Okaaaay...
 
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:44 pm

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This thread is hilarious.

In sum it's like: "I don't have any tattoos and don't like them, yet somehow I'm qualified to explain why people get them."


Exactly. I’ve lost brain cells in this thread and I don’t think I’ll return.
 
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Kno wrote:
emperortk wrote:
This thread is hilarious.

In sum it's like: "I don't have any tattoos and don't like them, yet somehow I'm qualified to explain why people get them."


Exactly. I’ve lost brain cells in this thread and I don’t think I’ll return.
Counterpointed by "you can't judge me by my tattoos", to which the correct reply is "I can judge you anyway I want to unless I'm breaking the law".
 
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I like they way the feel too.
You like pain? Okaaaay...


What? No. Wait....

Depending on where a tattoo is, there may or may not be pain involved. I have a tattoo on my back shoulder. Because there is almost no fat there, it was over mostly bone. That was painful and I hated it. However, the two on my legs are over muscle. More annoying to get than painful. After they heal, the skin feels different. It has been a few years since I have gotten any tattoos and they still feel different than other non tattoo parts of my skin.
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:25 pm

Sokes wrote:
seb146 wrote:

For me, it is giving people a quick glance into what is important to me.

More than twenty years back a woman with a snail house tattoo on her shoulder explained the meaning to me. Is this common that tattoos got meaning?


For some, yes. For others, as pointed out above, they are being a non-conformist in a conformist sort of way.

Sokes wrote:
Question to all:
I was wondering if I should tattoo "Trump" on my arm.
What's your opinion?


If you want to. But don't get offended by people's reactions.

I have two sports logos on my legs. People who know what they are give me good natured ribbing. But something political would be terrible, IMO. But, it is your body.
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johns624 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

You are speaking in absolutes though - 'tattoos are a sign of damaged goods' mostly in Western, Christian culture. If you are Maori or member of another Pacific Islander group, you are a weirdo and outsider if you don't have at least one.
I actually didn't see that many Maori with tattoos when I was in New Zealand a few years ago. They were there but I've probably seen more "Maori" tattoos on Caucasians in the US than in NZ.


How many of them did you see nude?
None. I was on vacation with my real, female wife. I don't know what kind of vacations you take...
 
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Re: How did tattoos become so popular?

Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:22 am

I finally got ONE, at age 66, because it is a stylized symbol of the zodiac sign Libra. Both being Libra's with birthdays five days apart has always been a special thing between me and my oldest granddaughter. We got identical tattoo's on our upper left shoulder at the same time.

She is also my first grandchild, and frankly the number and placement of some of hers I find revolting. Others she has are nice and have deep personal meanings to her. I have no idea where she became so infatuated with them. Her father (adoptive - we won't discuss the guy her mother calls a sperm donor) is an idiot who likes tattoos. But otherwise he has been a great father.

One thing I have noticed. Back in the 1960s when I first saw tattoo's, and in the early 70's in the Navy when I saw extensive tattoo's for the first time - they were all somewhat dull. And not very sharp.

Today the talent level of the artist, the ways they use color, and such produces a level of detail I never thought possible.

But IMHO there must be a deep reason behind the decision to get a specific tattoo.

Which is a minority opinion within my family (children and grandchildren).

As my father once said, "I hated old farts who sat around and complained about young people and the world going to h**l. Then I woke up one morning and realized I was one."

May you all live long enough to be a grumpy old fart.
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