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Republicans No One Can Argue With

Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:51 pm

NEW AD: Republican Vets Against Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBwxpDfLok

No one can argue with these true American Patriots.

As an Air Force vet, I hear these guys loud and clear.

You cannot support Gen. Michael Flynn and these guys too.

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Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:24 pm

Absolutely spot on. Too bad more people can't see through the BS the orange man spouts.
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:44 pm

You're underestimating the power of irrational thought. These people are patriots and unquestionably American...until they speak out...then they're traitors.

I support these veterans who are brave enough to speak out, but don't be surprised if you find some mudslinging to them because of it. Even today, there are veterans who are blinded by party ideology and will turn on their fellow service members for any "disloyalty".
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:54 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
You're underestimating the power of irrational thought. These people are patriots and unquestionably American...until they speak out...then they're traitors.

I support these veterans who are brave enough to speak out, but don't be surprised if you find some mudslinging to them because of it. Even today, there are veterans who are blinded by party ideology and will turn on their fellow service members for any "disloyalty".


Exactly, turn on these true patriots to support a fat blubbery coward.

Did you see his off the cuff Beirut bombing comment? 'It was some sort of an attack....'
...just pulled that out of his fat lard ass going for the Fear card, he'll do it every time.

And people adore this coward placeholder in a job fit for the mentally strong and knowledgeable, which he is neither.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-poll-sho ... 13687.html
Republican support for his leading the country in the right direction, not pegs at a paltry 20%.

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Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:00 pm

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You're underestimating the power of irrational thought.


Oh yes, if Americans would vote in their own interests, Republicans would have lost all elections since the Democrats and Republicans flipped sides on the left/right side.
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:20 pm

BN747 wrote:
NEW AD: Republican Vets Against Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBwxpDfLok

No one can argue with these true American Patriots.

As an Air Force vet, I hear these guys loud and clear.

You cannot support Gen. Michael Flynn and these guys too.


I can and I'm not a Republican. I support Michael Flynn and these guys too. Trump wins when America wins, not the other way around.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:28 pm

afcjets wrote:
BN747 wrote:
NEW AD: Republican Vets Against Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBwxpDfLok

No one can argue with these true American Patriots.

As an Air Force vet, I hear these guys loud and clear.

You cannot support Gen. Michael Flynn and these guys too.


I can and I'm not a Republican. I support Michael Flynn and these guys too. Trump wins when America wins, not the other way around.


Just like youtube commenters, of course you would, and then 5 mins alone in a room with any of these guys...you'd be a very changed man.

Such thought suggest one could also vote for Biden & trump as well.
And the Chiefs and Seahawks can meet in the Super Bowl too.

An very peculiar world to live in where you can do that, a world where everything is the same, left is right, up is down..yep, peculiar.



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Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:30 pm

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Trump wins when America wins, not the other way around.

Basicly true for every/any politician. If their community/city/state/nation "wins" while they are in office, they are likely to also then win.

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Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:42 pm

So how does America "win"?
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:48 pm

BN747 wrote:
NEW AD: Republican Vets Against Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBwxpDfLok

No one can argue with these true American Patriots.

As an Air Force vet, I hear these guys loud and clear.

You cannot support Gen. Michael Flynn and these guys too.

BN747


Yet people will do exactly that. They're service to their country will be questioned,even belittled. Remember what happened to John McCain?
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:18 pm

Tugger wrote:
afcjets wrote:
Trump wins when America wins, not the other way around.

Basicly true for every/any politician. If their community/city/state/nation "wins" while they are in office, they are likely to also then win.

Tugg


Exactly, which is why no one is buying the other side's narrative.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:51 pm

Ironically (or not) democrats only agree with republicans when they're singing from the same songbook. What a shame they didn't do that in 1864. Or 1957. Or 1965.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:58 pm

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Ironically (or not) democrats only agree with republicans when they're singing from the same songbook. What a shame they didn't do that in 1864. Or 1957. Or 1965.


Of which has nothing to do with loyalty to America over party or a corrupt leader, no Democrat has ever followed 'a man(child)' to that extreme at any point in US History...as certain republicans are doing before our very eyes and thankfully it is being recording daily, for future generations to see for themselves, that America was sold out by select citizens.

FACT.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:37 am

afcjets wrote:
Tugger wrote:
afcjets wrote:
Trump wins when America wins, not the other way around.

Basicly true for every/any politician. If their community/city/state/nation "wins" while they are in office, they are likely to also then win.

Tugg


Exactly, which is why no one is buying the other side's narrative.


No person who employs logic or reason is buying the narrative that this WH is successful or competently run either.

At this point with all we know now, 45 supporters have surrendered all reason and love of country for a ‘screw the libs’ mantra.
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:23 am

einsteinboricua wrote:
You're underestimating the power of irrational thought. These people are patriots and unquestionably American...until they speak out...then they're traitors.

I support these veterans who are brave enough to speak out, but don't be surprised if you find some mudslinging to them because of it. Even today, there are veterans who are blinded by party ideology and will turn on their fellow service members for any "disloyalty".


Don´t underestimate the power of establishing permission structures. Religion, especially the more fundamentalist type, is in rapid decline not because people think new thoughts, but because they see people around them leaving, and that takes the group pressure away.

This is all about establishing that you can be conservative, and a life long Republican and still not just not vote for Trump, but this one time, also vote for a democrat because they are patriots and put country first. Which most Republicans would say they do.

Biden will unquestionably get more votes than Clinton did, but Trump can essentially not afford to lose any voter.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:24 am

With how Democrats pushing Bidem over electability instead of favorability, it might take a Trump re-election for the Democrats to change their way of how to approach election.
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:13 pm

Believe me when I tell you, there are plenty of hillbillies, rednecks, and delusionals, (aka "The Base") on a couple of sites with political commentary I use that are so far up Trump's ginormous ass (aka The Colon Critters) anything spoken negatively from anyone will get a, "he's not a true Republican." No criticism of their colon host.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:33 pm

I find it ironic that one veteran in this video condemns Trump for 5 deferments to avoid the Vietnam War when Biden did the same damn thing. If anything they should be looking at who takes care of them when they are serving in the military. We all know Biden under Obama gutted the military much like Carter did. Reagan rebuilt the military and Trump as much of a personal coward he might be in his own life he at least put a spotlight on military and their families.

https://www.insidesources.com/joe-biden ... rats-care/
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:50 pm

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no Democrat has ever followed 'a man(child)' to that extreme at any point in US History...BN747


That there is drop dead funny.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:55 pm

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I find it ironic that one veteran in this video condemns Trump for 5 deferments to avoid the Vietnam War when Biden did the same damn thing. If anything they should be looking at who takes care of them when they are serving in the military. We all know Biden under Obama gutted the military much like Carter did. Reagan rebuilt the military and Trump as much of a personal coward he might be in his own life he at least put a spotlight on military and their families.

https://www.insidesources.com/joe-biden ... rats-care/

A lot of people got deferments for Vietnam, and the fact is the better off you were the more likely your were to be able to get one (attending college, hello!). But asthma is a real and normal deferment option that many who could use it did. But "bone spurs"? Biden's draft physical exam determined the asthma, Trump only provided x-rays.... oh wait, he didn't, there was only a Dr's note stating "astonishingly excellent" blood pressure and that he is "the healthiest individual ever".... oh wait, that's the wrong Dr's note, sorry my bad. Seriously.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008 ... etnam.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 420475002/

Do you know anyone with asthma? Do you know anyone with bone spurs?

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:12 pm

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I find it ironic that one veteran in this video condemns Trump for 5 deferments to avoid the Vietnam War when Biden did the same damn thing. If anything they should be looking at who takes care of them when they are serving in the military. We all know Biden under Obama gutted the military much like Carter did. Reagan rebuilt the military and Trump as much of a personal coward he might be in his own life he at least put a spotlight on military and their families.

https://www.insidesources.com/joe-biden ... rats-care/

A lot of people got deferments for Vietnam, and the fact is the better off you were the more likely your were to be able to get one (attending college, hello!). But asthma is a real and normal deferment option that many who could use it did. But "bone spurs"? Biden's draft physical exam determined the asthma, Trump only provided x-rays.... oh wait, he didn't, there was only a Dr's note stating "astonishingly excellent" blood pressure and that he is "the healthiest individual ever".... oh wait, that's the wrong Dr's note, sorry my bad. Seriously.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008 ... etnam.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 420475002/

Do you know anyone with asthma? Do you know anyone with bone spurs?

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Tp answer your question my sister in law has both.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:16 pm

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Tugger wrote:
Do you know anyone with asthma? Do you know anyone with bone spurs?

Tugg


Tp answer your question my sister in law has both.

And? She is in college and has been considered for military duty and had them documented for such? (There is context to my query after all.)

Interesting:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20370212
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-lib ... spurs.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3995580/
A tiny bit of research and I see bone spurs are really a joint issue and the majority of time one doesn't even know they have them and they take time to grow which is why they affect older people (there are a small subset of people that have a chronic disease from childhood that causes excess out of control bone which is a wholly different situation).

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:37 pm

Let’s be honest. 99.99% of the people here would have used any excuse to avoid being sent to Vietnam.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:39 pm

Tugg just answering your question as posed. Has nothing to do with military service or college. There is some context to my answer too- those conditions aren't as rare as you think. When I was in the Army a guy was sent home due to bone spurs.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:48 pm

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Let’s be honest. 99.99% of the people here would have used any excuse to avoid being sent to Vietnam.

Absolutely! And the key is "any excuse". Just some are better that others.

cairns wrote:
Tugg just answering your question as posed. Has nothing to do with military service or college. There is some context to my answer too- those conditions aren't as rare as you think. When I was in the Army a guy was sent home due to bone spurs.

No worries Cairns, I know they are a real thing. And very rare for young people. And I will note that your friend was sent home but were they booted out? Ususualy it just gets you desk duty was enlisted.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:09 pm

Tugg he was sent home. He literally couldn't march. You don't get through basic without completing a roughly 30 mile full pack march. If you don't get through basic for any reason you go home.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:39 pm

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Tugg he was sent home. He literally couldn't march. You don't get through basic without completing a roughly 30 mile full pack march. If you don't get through basic for any reason you go home.

Youch, that's too bad but makes sense, you don't actually "enter" till you finish boot. Definitely had Trump had that happen to him it would be different.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 pm

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I find it ironic that one veteran in this video condemns Trump for 5 deferments to avoid the Vietnam War when Biden did the same damn thing. If anything they should be looking at who takes care of them when they are serving in the military. We all know Biden under Obama gutted the military much like Carter did. Reagan rebuilt the military and Trump as much of a personal coward he might be in his own life he at least put a spotlight on military and their families.

https://www.insidesources.com/joe-biden ... rats-care/

A lot of people got deferments for Vietnam, and the fact is the better off you were the more likely your were to be able to get one (attending college, hello!). But asthma is a real and normal deferment option that many who could use it did. But "bone spurs"? Biden's draft physical exam determined the asthma, Trump only provided x-rays.... oh wait, he didn't, there was only a Dr's note stating "astonishingly excellent" blood pressure and that he is "the healthiest individual ever".... oh wait, that's the wrong Dr's note, sorry my bad. Seriously.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008 ... etnam.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 420475002/

Do you know anyone with asthma? Do you know anyone with bone spurs?


Tugg


Yes I have Asthma as a matter of fact. So bad in fact I could not even play sports in HS unlike Joe Biden did. I do consider Trumps excuse for deferment as "weak" but then again so is Biden's if his Asthma was truly an issue he would not have been an athlete in High School as he claims to be. But lets face it as someone on here already commented 99.99 % of people if they had the chance would do anything to get out of the draft. But it's easier for people to get out of it that come from privileged backgrounds which both Trump and Biden can claim.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:53 pm

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Absolutely spot on. Too bad more people can't see through the BS the orange man spouts.


Especially since it’s crystal clear.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:00 pm

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Let’s be honest. 99.99% of the people here would have used any excuse to avoid being sent to Vietnam.



All hale, the king of right - wing excuses.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:13 pm

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Ironically (or not) democrats only agree with republicans when they're singing from the same songbook. What a shame they didn't do that in 1864. Or 1957. Or 1965.


People across the political spectrum have been saying the occupant of the White House is a danger to freedom and democracy and our American way of life. Now that we have seen just how dangerous he is, more Republicans are speaking out. Interesting how that works.....
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:49 pm

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no Democrat has ever followed 'a man(child)' to that extreme at any point in US History...BN747


That there is drop dead funny.


Cute but empty of any facts to prove my statement as incorrect.

Cough up something...if you can.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:59 pm

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Ironically (or not) democrats only agree with republicans when they're singing from the same songbook. What a shame they didn't do that in 1864. Or 1957. Or 1965.


People across the political spectrum have been saying the occupant of the White House is a danger to freedom and democracy and our American way of life. Now that we have seen just how dangerous he is, more Republicans are speaking out. Interesting how that works.....


Not only have the last 3 years exposed the fact that he's a weak spineless individual...but now, Everyone knows he is a functional illiterate.

The man knows absolutely nothing about anything but the game of golf.

With each speaking opportunity his ignorance becomes clearer and clearer for all to see.

The intellectually lazy will never see this or hear it because they cannot face the mistake they made OR they really do love an ignorant racist in power - which is quite plausible, the fake patriots - who will definitely place a single ignorant man above everything American.

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Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:32 pm

BN thinks veterans can't disagree with each other and that Democrats have never fawned over flawed leaders. Let's start with George McClellan. Then there's a certain Mr. Daley.. And I won't go into ACO or Sheila Jackson Lee.

And of course we really shouldn't forget this guy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luLpdr4n8m4

Just to name a few....
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:45 pm

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BN thinks veterans can't disagree with each other and that Democrats have never fawned over flawed leaders. Let's start with George McClellan. Then there's a certain Mr. Daley.. And I won't go into ACO or Sheila Jackson Lee.

And of course we really shouldn't forget this guy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luLpdr4n8m4

Just to name a few....


First off I doubt you ever set foot in any military branch for starters...you discussing veterans is a kin to garbage truck driver thinking he can pilot an A380. Reality doesn't matter.

And if you had any clue to what I think and how I think.. you would have never reached into the gutter and try to pass off as the nationa following George McClellan. the nation never followed Daley anywhere but out office.

You can't go into AOC or Mrs Lee because your racism will unmask you.
Whatever garbage that youtube link leads surely comes from the same porta-potty as your imaginary McClellan, Daley nationwide fanfare where you shop.

Dude, if you are an adult, now is the time to act like one.

You know what scratch that, I cannot hold a serious discussion with insincere children or adults, no rational adult can.

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Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:57 am

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VTKillarney wrote:
Let’s be honest. 99.99% of the people here would have used any excuse to avoid being sent to Vietnam.



All hale, the king of right - wing excuses.


Wrong too, as 70% of troops where volunteers.... which is a bit more than 0.01%.

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Whatever garbage that youtube link leads surely comes from the same porta-potty as your imaginary McClellan, Daley nationwide fanfare where you shop.


Even better.. AP about Clinton denying his affair... as if that has anything to do with anything.

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Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:14 am

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VTKillarney wrote:
Let’s be honest. 99.99% of the people here would have used any excuse to avoid being sent to Vietnam.



All hale, the king of right - wing excuses.


Wrong too, as 70% of troops where volunteers.... which is a bit more than 0.01%.

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Please read more carefully. I referred specifically to “the people here.”
 
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tommy1808 wrote:
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All hale, the king of right - wing excuses.


Wrong too, as 70% of troops where volunteers.... which is a bit more than 0.01%.

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Thonas

Please read more carefully. I referred specifically to “the people here.”


Still wrong, 9.7% of the generation served in Vietnam. So even if every single other person tried to get out of serving, you'd still be off by a factor of 60-70..
You are still wrong if you include all ~200 million in the US population, in case you wanted to try that excuse next.

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Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:09 pm

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Wrong too, as 70% of troops where volunteers.... which is a bit more than 0.01%.

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Thonas

Please read more carefully. I referred specifically to “the people here.”


Still wrong, 9.7% of the generation served in Vietnam. So even if every single other person tried to get out of serving, you'd still be off by a factor of 60-70..
You are still wrong if you include all ~200 million in the US population, in case you wanted to try that excuse next.

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Your pedantry aside, the salient point is that attempting to get out of being sent to Vietnam was incredibly common across all spectrums and political affiliations of people.

I have no absolutely problem with a person who did whatever it took to avoid service in Vietnam. I’m much more skeptical of those who volunteered to go and kill Vietnamese people in a pointless war. The idea that the latter group should define our moral compass is rather perverse.

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VTKillarney wrote:
Please read more carefully. I referred specifically to “the people here.”


Still wrong, 9.7% of the generation served in Vietnam. So even if every single other person tried to get out of serving, you'd still be off by a factor of 60-70..
You are still wrong if you include all ~200 million in the US population, in case you wanted to try that excuse next.

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Thomas

Your pedantry aside, the salient point is that attempting to get out of being sent to Vietnam was incredibly common across all spectrums and political affiliations of people.

I have no absolutely problem with a person who did whatever it took to avoid service in Vietnam. I’m much more skeptical of those who volunteered to go and kill Vietnamese people in a pointless war. The idea that the latter group should define our moral compass is rather perverse.

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Now you go full disrespecting troops mode.

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Now you go full disrespecting troops mode.

Best regards
Thomas

Please read more carefully. I said that I am skeptical of someone who volunteered to kill Vietnamese people in a pointless war. Don’t attribute anything more than that. Lots of people have served admirably.

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Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:51 pm

VTKillarney wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
Please read more carefully. I referred specifically to “the people here.”


Still wrong, 9.7% of the generation served in Vietnam. So even if every single other person tried to get out of serving, you'd still be off by a factor of 60-70..
You are still wrong if you include all ~200 million in the US population, in case you wanted to try that excuse next.

Best regards
Thomas

Your pedantry aside, the salient point is that attempting to get out of being sent to Vietnam was incredibly common across all spectrums and political affiliations of people.

I have no absolutely problem with a person who did whatever it took to avoid service in Vietnam. I’m much more skeptical of those who volunteered to go and kill Vietnamese people in a pointless war. The idea that the latter group should define our moral compass is rather perverse.

Best regards
VTKillarney


Conservative Americans and defense interests did not believe it was a 'pointless' war. In fact many in families across the country came to deep divides (and blows) over it. Were you even alive then?

And unrelated: how is it that you're the only participant in this thread with user statistics listing 'last active' as 'last year'? Quite strange.
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:34 pm

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BN thinks veterans can't disagree with each other and that Democrats have never fawned over flawed leaders. Let's start with George McClellan. Then there's a certain Mr. Daley.. And I won't go into ACO or Sheila Jackson Lee.

And of course we really shouldn't forget this guy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luLpdr4n8m4

Just to name a few....


The difference is that Democrats understand our leaders are flawed. We accept they are human. Not our perfect candidate and will make mistakes and pass legislation we do not agree with. We get that. And we hold them accountable for it. Unlike the MAGA crew who will support him no matter what.
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:43 pm

Someone's TDS is so bad he's incapable of thinking straight. Now he wants to get personal about my military service.

C Battery 1/81st, 56th FA Brigade. Look it up. Loser.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:20 pm

cairns wrote:
Someone's TDS is so bad he's incapable of thinking straight. Now he wants to get personal about my military service.

C Battery 1/81st, 56th FA Brigade. Look it up. Loser.


You have it backwards buddy...TDS is defending this impetuous and unprofessional whiny teenager of a POTUS. This guy hasn't known leadership, or how to be a real man, a measurable day of his coddled 'adult' life.
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:25 pm

TDS is Trump Derangement Syndrome, here people fawningly support Trump and can't accept any negative information of him and sycophanticly follow and believe all he says.

I know there is another way to look at TDS but think about it....

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No person who employs logic or reason is buying the narrative that this WH is successful or competent.

On almost every metric (before covid), the numbers don't lie.
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:29 pm

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Exactly, which is why no one is buying the other side's narrative.


No person who employs logic or reason is buying the narrative that this WH is successful or competent.


On almost every metric (before covid), the numbers don't lie.


Gonna have to back that up with some facts - and no, the DJIA is not something you can use because it is influenced by far more than the WH. Have a look at the famous 'direction of the country' poll question - "do you think the nation is on the right or wrong track?" In the RCP average of all surveys, results as follows:

Jan 2017: Wrong 57 Right 33
Jan 2018: Wrong 59 Right 33
Jan 2019: Wrong 56 Right 35
Jan 2020: Wrong 57 Right 37

What's the midpoint of the 'direction of country' survey for the entirety of term? (You may need to set the time variables in the chart to see it properly)

Wrong 58 Right 35

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... y-902.html
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