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First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:04 pm

The first adults only hotel, resort, and casino will soon be opening in Las Vegas and looks stunning. The Circa Resort & Casino, which will only be open for those 21 years old or older will offer luxury amenities and pay homage to the history of Las Vegas. This includes the Vegas Vickie in their own lobby, which is one of the most iconic neon signs from The Strip. There will be 777 rooms housed in the uniquely tapered 71 degree angled tower, with each room being decked out in a minimal, but vintage Vegas asthetic. In addition to the two story casino, the casino will be home to the world's largest sportsbook and a three story stadium with a 78 million pixel high definition screen that will be able to be seen on multiple floors of the casino. There will also be a truly unique amphitheater called Stadium Swim that will be the largest in America. The hotel was scheduled to open in December 2020, but will start to open in October. It is a very futuristic resort with retro features that will create a unique experience.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:27 am

I hope there is something left in Vegas after this pandemic. Why they are opening early is beyond me.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:28 am

NIKV69 wrote:
I hope there is something left in Vegas after this pandemic. Why they are opening early is beyond me.

Probably feel like they can open up.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:53 am

because October is usually busier than Dec. That said, adult are the only ones allowed on the casino floor. so, not sure why they are banning children from the hotel and pool area. Sounds like they are catering to guys, with the big screens for sport betting, and the no family rule. I'm sure they did their research. However, it seems very risky, almost everybody has a family. Maybe they are catering to seniors who don't like kids. I would love a casino which banned smoking, instead, i get blown on by cigar smokers, and chain smokers. I rarely go, because i have to wash my clothes as soon as i get home. I am usually chased out of the casino area, within 15 minutes because i can't stand people puffing on me.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:25 am

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
because October is usually busier than Dec. That said, adult are the only ones allowed on the casino floor. so, not sure why they are banning children from the hotel and pool area. Sounds like they are catering to guys, with the big screens for sport betting, and the no family rule.


Or... guys-looking-for-hookers... with no family to bother them...


DLFREEBIRD wrote:
I would love a casino which banned smoking, instead, i get blown on by cigar smokers, and chain smokers. I rarely go, because i have to wash my clothes as soon as i get home. I am usually chased out of the casino area, within 15 minutes because i can't stand people puffing on me.


:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: Absolutely! If someone had the (gonads) to declare a casino floor "no smoking", there are millions of us (yes, millions!) who would opt for that in a minute. Walking into a casino - or anywhere else - and leaving, smelling like an ashtray, is not something many of us are willing to do. That might help explain the popularity of electronic gaming.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:05 am

Why does an adults only resort have bunk bed rooms?
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:33 am

NIKV69 wrote:
I hope there is something left in Vegas after this pandemic. Why they are opening early is beyond me.


Station Casinos announced that 4 of their properties are going to be permanently closed:

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/08/ ... 295540001/

alfa164 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
I would love a casino which banned smoking, instead, i get blown on by cigar smokers, and chain smokers. I rarely go, because i have to wash my clothes as soon as i get home. I am usually chased out of the casino area, within 15 minutes because i can't stand people puffing on me.


:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: Absolutely! If someone had the (gonads) to declare a casino floor "no smoking", there are millions of us (yes, millions!) who would opt for that in a minute. Walking into a casino - or anywhere else - and leaving, smelling like an ashtray, is not something many of us are willing to do. That might help explain the popularity of electronic gaming.


I have seen some tables at casinos that are non smoking, but we still have a generation or two left to go before we see a non smoking casino. That will probably the last kind of business to ban smoking. But non smoking tables are not enough to distance yourself from the smell.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:54 am

The renderings look like a futuristic version of the Nugget in Reno.

And when I see "adult" I think of something completely different.

Good luck.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:51 am

NIKV69 wrote:
I hope there is something left in Vegas after this pandemic. Why they are opening early is beyond me.


Because, while the Strip has been hit hard, downtown and the locals market are doing okay, not great, but okay.

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
not sure why they are banning children from the hotel and pool area. Sounds like they are catering to guys, with the big screens for sport betting, and the no family rule. I'm sure they did their research.


They own and operate two casinos already, the Golden Gate and The D. Derek knows what he is doing in that respect and yes, primary market is male, if you wander around their other properties you will notice a couple of things, sports on every tv and the dancing dealers.

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
I would love a casino which banned smoking, instead, i get blown on by cigar smokers, and chain smokers. I rarely go, because i have to wash my clothes as soon as i get home. I am usually chased out of the casino area, within 15 minutes because i can't stand people puffing on me.


I happen to agree with you, however, research shows that smokers gamble more.

VTKillarney wrote:
Why does an adults only resort have bunk bed rooms?


Group of guys going to Vegas for the weekend, 4 to a room, own bed instead of sharing beds.

LittleFokker wrote:

Station Casinos announced that 4 of their properties are going to be permanently closed:

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/08/ ... 295540001/



I'm still scratching my head on why a couple of the properties are closed, especially the Palms, they spent a small fortune renovating it and then leave it closed.

The other 3 they are shopping around, but seem to have some unrealistic expectations on value (that's all I can say).

seb146 wrote:
The renderings look like a futuristic version of the Nugget in Reno.

And when I see "adult" I think of something completely different.

Good luck.


From the renderings I saw a while back (they showed more than has been released) the place should be very nice and the pricing for rooms etc is very competitive.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:36 am

alfa164 wrote:
Or... guys-looking-for-hookers... with no family to bother them...


Yes a place for the "Working" crowd. Instead of the Broadway Review, the three ring strip club.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:50 am

Do many families take trips to Las Vegas? I've never been but I always imagined it wasn't known for being a family friendly destination. Or there would be few families.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:19 pm

People willing to gamble away their money probably will get an extra thrill gambling their health and perhaps their lives as well.

Besides we have an entire industry set up to take money off such fools, its prerogatives must be respected.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:25 pm

BlueberryWheats wrote:
Do many families take trips to Las Vegas? I've never been but I always imagined it wasn't known for being a family friendly destination. Or there would be few families.


https://assets.simpleviewcms.com/simple ... f990b0.pdf

Found this from 2018.

The number of families are definitely not big - per the report there are only 6% of parties with anyone under 21.

As for the hotel - it has drunk bros written all over it. There will definitely be some crowd of that demographics, though.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:02 pm

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Probably feel like they can open up.


So did Revel in Atlantic City but opening up in the middle of a terrible economy is a loser.

jetwet1 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
I hope there is something left in Vegas after this pandemic. Why they are opening early is beyond me.


Because, while the Strip has been hit hard, downtown and the locals market are doing okay, not great, but okay.

.





Station Casinos is closing 4 off their properties. I would say your statement needs a source.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:36 pm

VTKillarney wrote:
Why does an adults only resort have bunk bed rooms?


Seriously? You've never gone on spring break with a bunch of friends and shared a hotel room? Now transfer that to the casino and there you go. C'mon son..
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:39 pm

Revelation wrote:
People willing to gamble away their money probably will get an extra thrill gambling their health and perhaps their lives as well.

Besides we have an entire industry set up to take money off such fools, its prerogatives must be respected.


Honest to Jeebus, i've never felt the allure of giving my money away on the "chance' I might get some back. Powerball this, mega ticket that, scratch offs and the best of all, sitting in a smoke infested room with 70 and 80 year old people toting air canisters and staring blankly at a video screen. Yeah, sounds like a great time!
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:42 pm

NIKV69 wrote:

So did Revel in Atlantic City but opening up in the middle of a terrible economy is a loser.



Revel had a lot more issues than opening when it did, sure it was part of the problem, but far from the only one. The big one was debt levels, Circa will not be carrying any debt when it opens.

NIKV69 wrote:

jetwet1 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
I hope there is something left in Vegas after this pandemic. Why they are opening early is beyond me.


Because, while the Strip has been hit hard, downtown and the locals market are doing okay, not great, but okay.

.


Station Casinos is closing 4 off their properties. I would say your statement needs a source.


Sure
June 2020 June 2019 Revenue Chnage
LV Strip 238,252,405 616,592,146 -61.36%
Downtown 23,185,575 52,177,607 -55.56%
N Las Vegas 17,479,904 22,779,085 -23.26%
Boulder Strip 45,016,294 66,644,753 -32.45%
Balance of County 73,404,48 199,334,456 -26.10%

Source : https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocum ... ntid=16982

Balance of County would included resort such as GVR, Red Rock, Aliante and State Line.

That is just gaming revenue, f/b and hotel revenue will be even more pronounced.

If you really want to get into it look here : https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocum ... ntid=16984
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:53 pm

BlueberryWheats wrote:
Do many families take trips to Las Vegas? I've never been but I always imagined it wasn't known for being a family friendly destination. Or there would be few families.


Every time we have ever been to Vegas (or Reno for that matter) there are plenty of families there. There are the "adult" things to do but there are also a number of "family" things to do as well. Some of the shows at the big casinos are geared toward the over 21 crowd but there are plenty of shows and attractions for those under 21. I usually spend a day just walking through each casino admiring the architecture and lay out of each.
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:58 pm

I thought Las Vegas was a family town.

I always see 40-50 year old's with their 20 something daughters around the casinos.

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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:04 pm

Okie wrote:
I thought Las Vegas was a family town.

I always see 40-50 year old's with their 20 something daughters around the casinos.

Okie


And more and more mother are bringing their sons.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:11 pm

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
because October is usually busier than Dec. That said, adult are the only ones allowed on the casino floor. so, not sure why they are banning children from the hotel and pool area. Sounds like they are catering to guys, with the big screens for sport betting, and the no family rule. I'm sure they did their research. However, it seems very risky, almost everybody has a family. Maybe they are catering to seniors who don't like kids. I would love a casino which banned smoking, instead, i get blown on by cigar smokers, and chain smokers. I rarely go, because i have to wash my clothes as soon as i get home. I am usually chased out of the casino area, within 15 minutes because i can't stand people puffing on me.


The Palace Casino in Biloxi MS is all non-smoking it actually does pretty well. Most anyone you ask in there book it for that reason. But I am sure smokers gamble more that's why they haven't curtailed it.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:50 pm

Okie wrote:
I thought Las Vegas was a family town.

I always see 40-50 year old's with their 20 something daughters around the casinos.

Okie

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Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:01 pm

Another good reason to never go to Vegas again

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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:53 pm

BlueberryWheats wrote:
Do many families take trips to Las Vegas? I've never been but I always imagined it wasn't known for being a family friendly destination. Or there would be few families.


you be surprised, there is great restaurants, shopping, shows, and theatre, plus hoover dam, grand canyon, and other spectacular national parks close by, i love to go hiking at red rock, there some very stunning parks, plus sports teams. there is a little of everything to keep a family busy.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:14 am

CaptHadley wrote:

Honest to Jeebus, i've never felt the allure of giving my money away on the "chance' I might get some back. Powerball this, mega ticket that, scratch offs and the best of all, sitting in a smoke infested room with 70 and 80 year old people toting air canisters and staring blankly at a video screen. Yeah, sounds like a great time!


It's more than just possibly winning money. If it was just that simple, I would waste my time by playing slots. But I like the feeling of shuffling my chips as cards are being dealt and calculating odds in my head to make the best decision. Most times I play there's table chatter, so there's a social element to it. And in Vegas you get free drinks while you play, so even if you lose all your money it's not a total loss.

BlueberryWheats wrote:
Do many families take trips to Las Vegas? I've never been but I always imagined it wasn't known for being a family friendly destination. Or there would be few families.


I was lucky to have my formative youth years occur when living in Vegas in the 90s. During that decade, hotels were competing with each other to see who could be the most family friendly. MGM had a whole amusement park behind the hotel, Circus Circus built the Adventure Dome, and every hotel had a sweet arcade (Treasure Island and Excalibur were the gold standards in that category). Coincided with hotels putting shows/attractions outside - the Mirage volcano, the Treasure Island pirate show, the Luxor light (and the 3 themed shows inside), the MGM Lion, the NYNY roller coaster, the Bellagio fountains. It was an awesome time to be a kid in Vegas. Alas, around 1999-2000, they realized families weren't bringing in the revenue, and that's when the "FU" to families began. Almost everything I listed has gone away - arcades became night clubs. Outside attractions closed and turned into something else. And most telling, that was the same time the slogan "What happens here, stays here" was born.
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Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:00 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Alas, around 1999-2000, they realized families weren't bringing in the revenue, and that's when the "FU" to families began. Almost everything I listed has gone away - arcades became night clubs. Outside attractions closed and turned into something else. And most telling, that was the same time the slogan "What happens here, stays here" was born.


The lack of ROI was part of the problem, the other major issue was the small fact that for some reason a lot of families figured that the "under 21 years of age are not allowed to loiter in the gaming areas" did not apply to them, once gaming had had enough the fines started flying and together with the lack of ROI a lot of the family stuff was pulled. You can also add, wonderful parents leaving their kids in the room because "they will be fine" and going out and living it up in the casinos while their kids decide they are bored and decide to go wander, normally resulting in the kids being found by security, taken to the security office, CPS getting involved and the parents coming to the understanding that they are now in for some serious legal issues.

Honestly, I am more than happy with the move away from the family friendly times, yes, growing up in Vegas was fun then, but from the operations point of view I quickly learned that having a mother crying on your shoulder because their kid is missing really sucks and the fines from gaming get expensive quickly.

I will say, during my time at Circus (early 90's) we really didn't have the issues I put above, for whatever reason the parents had it figured out.
 
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Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:34 pm

jetwet1 wrote:

Revel had a lot more issues than opening when it did, sure it was part of the problem, but far from the only one. The big one was debt levels, Circa will not be carrying any debt when it opens.



Well the initial person building ran out of money to finish because of a bad economy. So of course there will be a note for someone to secure to finish which IIRC is what happened. A note that if someone had a casino making money would have been able to pay in a year. Also whomever thought it prudent to build another casino when PA was legalizing gaming was also an idiot for PA made up a nice chunk of their business.
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Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:26 am

NIKV69 wrote:

Well the initial person building ran out of money to finish because of a bad economy. So of course there will be a note for someone to secure to finish which IIRC is what happened.


They opened with $2.4b in debt, no marketing plan except "We built it, they will come" and being 100% non smoking.

NIKV69 wrote:
A note that if someone had a casino making money would have been able to pay in a year.


As I said, it was carrying $2.4b in debt, that's not getting paid off in a year, but, with the right marketing and management they should have been able to cover the payments.

NIKV69 wrote:
Also whomever thought it prudent to build another casino when PA was legalizing gaming was also an idiot for PA made up a nice chunk of their business.


No argument there
 
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Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:08 pm

It a smart marketing and operational move. As others have noted, minors are not allowed in the gaming areas, can't be served alcohol, and sometimes problems develop when parents leave their kids in the room to gamble. Now if their prices are inclusive without tacked on 'resort facility' and other fees, that would be a real winner for them.
 
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Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:59 pm

jetwet1 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

Well the initial person building ran out of money to finish because of a bad economy. So of course there will be a note for someone to secure to finish which IIRC is what happened.


They opened with $2.4b in debt, no marketing plan except "We built it, they will come" and being 100% non smoking.

NIKV69 wrote:
A note that if someone had a casino making money would have been able to pay in a year.


As I said, it was carrying $2.4b in debt, that's not getting paid off in a year, but, with the right marketing and management they should have been able to cover the payments.

NIKV69 wrote:
Also whomever thought it prudent to build another casino when PA was legalizing gaming was also an idiot for PA made up a nice chunk of their business.


No argument there


Another big difference - Atlantic City had been on a downward slope, while LV is not. Atlantic City finally recovered slightly in the past 2 years (this was pre-Virus), but the place is still just a huge dump with casinos. Ocean, which took over Revel building, was actually not doing that badly (again, pre-Virus).

ltbewr wrote:
It a smart marketing and operational move. As others have noted, minors are not allowed in the gaming areas, can't be served alcohol, and sometimes problems develop when parents leave their kids in the room to gamble. Now if their prices are inclusive without tacked on 'resort facility' and other fees, that would be a real winner for them.


And as the owner had said, he has nearby hotels that fully welcomes families. Enforcement IIRC was definitely the top issue for him also - i.e. easier to enforce the "no minor" rule for the whole facilities rather than just the gaming area itself.
 
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Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:20 am

This is very common in Spain (and I reckon in other Mediterranean destinations) and there is nothing weird or sexual about it. Those hotels are targeted to DINKs that prefer not sharing their breakfast room or swimming pool with a bunch of babies and children crying, yelling and running.
 
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Re: First Adult Only Hotel & Resort Coming Soon in Las Vegas

Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:42 am

I've been going to Vegas 15-18 times a year for the past 4 years. Lots of families still flock to The Strip. Vegas keeps re-inventing itself, they went the more family friendly root back in the early 90s with Treasure Island, Luxor, Excalibur. The last few years, they've been trying to appeal to the young adult crowd with properties like Aria and The Cosmopolitan. Cira is just the latest in this trend. Nice to see a new property going up at Fremont, however, I'm hopeful that the other downtown properties don't get torn down, Fremont just wouldn't feel the same if everything is all shiny and new.
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