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Star Wars episodes viewing order?

Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:18 pm

I searched this subject without success.

Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker is on TV here tonight.

I have episodes IV-VI on VHS and DVD as well as I-III on DVD.

Does it make sense to watch them in numerical order? Or is it difficult to get the age of the "first" trilogy out of your head?
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:08 pm

The original series stands up fine now... order I'd do now:

I, II, III, Solo, Rogue 1, IV, Christmas Special (teehee), V, VI, VII, VIII on FFWD, IX
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:17 pm

I thought it was IV, V, VI, !, II, III, VII, VIII, IX.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:04 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
The original series stands up fine now... order I'd do now:

I, II, III, Solo, Rogue 1, IV, Christmas Special (teehee), V, VI, VII, VIII on FFWD, IX

Your a bit generous with VIII.
Just watch the throne room fight which is pretty cool. Skip the rest.
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petertenthije wrote:
northstardc4m wrote:
The original series stands up fine now... order I'd do now:

I, II, III, Solo, Rogue 1, IV, Christmas Special (teehee), V, VI, VII, VIII on FFWD, IX

Your a bit generous with VIII.
Just watch the throne room fight which is pretty cool. Skip the rest.

II last few minutes (start with the attack of the clone warriors), III, Rogue one, IV, V, VI. The rest can be skipped.

Please, no one shall ever again see the HOLIDAY (not Christmas) special. I was young and the first I have ever seen of Star Wars was the Holiday special, and this was in German. Even I was really young, I am still aware, what a pile of shit it was.
It shall never been seen again, together with the "Caravan of Courage" and the "Battle for Endor". And these two I have even seen in Cinema.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:39 am

I think
IV, V, and VI should always be first.

Then you can go back and get the backstory.

I have watched clone wars, rebels with my kids and think those folks should have written the new movies.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:38 am

casinterest wrote:
I think
IV, V, and VI should always be first.

Then you can go back and get the backstory.

I have watched clone wars, rebels with my kids and think those folks should have written the new movies.


I saw what is now episode IV when it was released, and have eventually seen all others. The original trilogy are the key still for me. Ep1 being so very average ruined that whole trilogy for me, and I'd be reasonably happy with IV-VIII, plus Rogue One and Solo. The last two there stand up in their own right, but I think are probably better having seen the main storyline first.

NB. I may give Rogue One more credit than it deserves, having seen it at the Air and Space IMAX - the combination of the two was a bit mindblowing for me.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:43 am

T4thH wrote:
petertenthije wrote:
northstardc4m wrote:
The original series stands up fine now... order I'd do now:

I, II, III, Solo, Rogue 1, IV, Christmas Special (teehee), V, VI, VII, VIII on FFWD, IX

Your a bit generous with VIII.
Just watch the throne room fight which is pretty cool. Skip the rest.

II last few minutes (start with the attack of the clone warriors), III, Rogue one, IV, V, VI. The rest can be skipped.

Please, no one shall ever again see the HOLIDAY (not Christmas) special. I was young and the first I have ever seen of Star Wars was the Holiday special, and this was in German. Even I was really young, I am still aware, what a pile of shit it was.
It shall never been seen again, together with the "Caravan of Courage" and the "Battle for Endor". And these two I have even seen in Cinema.
Once, both have been Star Wars Canon, now not any more and this is good so.

All these three have never existed later on.....even for George Lucas...
I was in fact being silly hense the teehee... No don't go watch the silly special...

Now the ewoks movies... Still better than episode viii!

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Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:06 am

I have seen them in the order they came out so now it doesn't really matter. We'll see when I have kids.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:56 am

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I have seen them in the order they came out so now it doesn't really matter. We'll see when I have kids.


Same for me, and I started my eldest (now 17) on the original trilogy then as they were released. It's been a little more random for the 12yo, and I think I've only bare watched Eps II and III
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:07 am

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I have seen them in the order they came out so now it doesn't really matter. We'll see when I have kids.


I actually gave a lot of thought to the order I'd let my kids watch in; ended up going with release order, IV, V, VI, and so on.

Got a kick out of the "Machete Order," though - you watch VI, V, then II, III, and finish with VI. Episode I gets ignored entirely.

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Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:52 am

Wait... there are more movies than IV, V, and VI?

Who knew.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:23 pm

1, 2, 3, R1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

That way you start with the four best movies and gradually start going downhill from there, before dropping off the cliff with the final two.
 
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:23 pm

As far as I'm concerned Rogue One was the best film of the entire Star Wars universe. My watching order would be

Rogue One, Solo, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, then forget the rest.
 
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Just watch 1-9. You could skip rogue one and solo for lack of lightsaber action.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:24 pm

Eh...probably start with the original trilogy 4, 5, and 6.

Maybe skip 1 entirely, then watch 2 and 3 on mute.

No need to watch 7, since it's a repeat of 4.

8 is worth watching just for it's weirdness.

I haven't seen 9, and don't know if I ever will.

Finish with Rogue 1, so at least you end on a high note.

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That way you start with the four best movies


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1, 2, 3, R1


:eyepopping:

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Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:41 pm

Personally, I think the best way to watch them is to watch 4, 5, 6 first as there are lots of little references and nods in the other films that make more sense if you watch them in the order they were released.

For me the drop-off from more modern effects in episodes 1-3 to the original trilogy is a big deal. Honestly, I notice the difference between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back just as much. The budget was so much larger and the freedom George Lucas had by finding the financing himself made Empire a far more expansive film. It's just bigger in every way and for me makes the original feel kinda small in comparison when I see them together.

Also, I think The Last Jedi is under appreciated. It has its flaws but I thought it was a far more interesting film than Rise of Skywalker.

casinterest wrote:
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IV, V, and VI should always be first.

Then you can go back and get the backstory.

I have watched clone wars, rebels with my kids and think those folks should have written the new movies.


Both Clone Wars and Rebels had some real bad fluff episodes, and Clone Wars starts out badly between the movie and some of the early seasons, but they really did a lot to clean up the mess left from episodes 1-3. Characters and events that deserved more exploration from that trilogy get it in Clone Wars.

The last four episodes of Clone Wars were absolutely spectacular. The emotion and artistry of the last two in particular deserves some acknowledgement. Haunting and beautiful episodes. Maybe my favorite thing I've see all year on television.
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Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:59 pm

I think you also need to have your own opinion and not just go with that of others. I'm not a difficult cinema goer and can enjoy pretty much anything, even movies where people walk out, and I'm an SF fan, so I've enjoyed all the Star Wars movie. However I don't get how episode 7 got that much praise, when the story is so much a repeat of things already seen, already done.
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IV New Hope
V Empire Strikes Back
VI Return of the Jedi






(I, II, III, VII, VIII, IX---throw them in the fucking trash)
 
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VSMUT wrote:
That way you start with the four best movies


VSMUT wrote:
1, 2, 3, R1


:eyepopping:

:faint:


4-9 were way too shallow. They completely lacked the political background story that made the 3 first films so exciting.
 
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IV New Hope
V Empire Strikes Back
VI Return of the Jedi






(I, II, III, VII, VIII, IX---throw them in the fucking trash)

I mean, I wouldn't go that far, but if somehow you could only watch three movies, it's the OT. No question. It was a masterpiece.

And, if you're lucky enough, watch a version that has the least amount of changes to it. I have the original theatrical releases on DVD (there was a limited run of them in the mid-late 2000s as the Bonus Discs to yet another "updated" DVD release of the OT that also included the Marvel comic for each of the OT movies).
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Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:56 am

Some interesting and varied opinions above, I must admit that after 2 minutes of JarJar Binks I didn't want to watch another Star Wars movie ever again!
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Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:19 pm

Same as the Narnia books: in order of publication/production. Except unlike Narnia, you skip production numbers 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
 
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Just watch 1-9. You could skip rogue one and solo for lack of lightsaber action.


Rogue One has a lack of lightsaber action? Sure, it doesn't have any duels, but the Vader hallway scene is arguably the best of the saga.
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the Vader hallway scene is arguably the best of the saga.

It also doesn't fit with Episode IV, but, sure, it has Rule of Cool going for it.
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Just watch 1-9. You could skip rogue one and solo for lack of lightsaber action.


A New Hope had less than FOUR minutes of on-screen light saber action.

Attack of the Clones had 15 or so.

If you've seen the Red Letter Media takedowns of the prequels, you'll know why I'm citing that.

And if "lightsaber action" is your litmus test, you're sadly a fanboy beyond saving and are missing the whole point.
 
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the Vader hallway scene is arguably the best of the saga.

It also doesn't fit with Episode IV, but, sure, it has Rule of Cool going for it.


It does if you buy the theory that (1) rebel troops are helpless opponents compared to a Jedi master, (2) Vader was being extra cautious as not to lose to Obi-Wan a second time, (3) Obi-Wan was too old to fight that hard, and (4) two highly-skilled opponents don't need to use fancy moves or acrobatics. Otherwise, there's a remastery of that duel on Youtube that looks cooler.
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N965UW wrote:
cjg225 wrote:
N965UW wrote:
the Vader hallway scene is arguably the best of the saga.

It also doesn't fit with Episode IV, but, sure, it has Rule of Cool going for it.


It does if you buy the theory that (1) rebel troops are helpless opponents compared to a Jedi master, (2) Vader was being extra cautious as not to lose to Obi-Wan a second time, (3) Obi-Wan was too old to fight that hard, and (4) two highly-skilled opponents don't need to use fancy moves or acrobatics. Otherwise, there's a remastery of that duel on Youtube that looks cooler.

And the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng4u1k
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It does if you buy the theory that (1) rebel troops are helpless opponents compared to a Jedi master, (2) Vader was being extra cautious as not to lose to Obi-Wan a second time, (3) Obi-Wan was too old to fight that hard, and (4) two highly-skilled opponents don't need to use fancy moves or acrobatics. Otherwise, there's a remastery of that duel on Youtube that looks cooler.

I was talking about the scene itself, not Vader's fighting. What is transpiring over the course of those couple minutes doesn't fit with the beginning of Episode IV.
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Rossiya747 wrote:
Just watch 1-9. You could skip rogue one and solo for lack of lightsaber action.


A New Hope had less than FOUR minutes of on-screen light saber action.

Attack of the Clones had 15 or so.

If you've seen the Red Letter Media takedowns of the prequels, you'll know why I'm citing that.

And if "lightsaber action" is your litmus test, you're sadly a fanboy beyond saving and are missing the whole point.


To be honest, I haven't watched any since Disney ruined it.
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N965UW wrote:
the Vader hallway scene is arguably the best of the saga.

It also doesn't fit with Episode IV, but, sure, it has Rule of Cool going for it.


On the contrary, it fits into IV perfectly; by the time we get to the start of IV it shows why Vader was so pissed when the Devastator caught up with the rebels, and why he didn’t believe Leia about being on a diplomatic mission.
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To be honest, I haven't watched any since Disney ruined it.


I really can't figure out why some Star Wars fans think this. There have been some misfires under Disney but Episodes 1-3 weren't that good either and Disney had nothing to do with that. While I wouldn't call any of episodes 7-9 great, none were as bad as 1-3. Solo wasn't great but wasn't terrible either.

Some of the Star Wars projects since Disney took ownership have been very good. Rogue One and The Mandalorian have both been very well received, and Clone Wars got the final season it deserved and finished on a high note.
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On the contrary, it fits into IV perfectly; by the time we get to the start of IV it shows why Vader was so pissed when the Devastator caught up with the rebels, and why he didn’t believe Leia about being on a diplomatic mission.

"Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel spies."

Many people view that as a small issue. I don't. I view it in the same light as Padme dies in chidlbirth yet somehow Leia remembers her real mother. It's not that hard to stick with what's already been established.
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the Vader hallway scene is arguably the best of the saga.

It also doesn't fit with Episode IV, but, sure, it has Rule of Cool going for it.


Why doesn't it fit? Vader was the guy who would go in and bust shit up, lead the stormtroopers in battle. Fit perfectly if you know the character of Darth Vader.

He wasn't, in Mr. Plinkett's vernacular, "space Jesus." Which is why the prequels are fallacious in concept to begin with. His importance was grossly over-inflated from the original trilogy to the prequels. Because Vader's origin isn't as important as his redemption. But I digress...

I will say that last scene in Rogue One was badass with Vader...it was terrifying. And it acted as a perfect segueway to Episode IV. Probably one of the better things the non-canon films did, actually.
 
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On the contrary, it fits into IV perfectly; by the time we get to the start of IV it shows why Vader was so pissed when the Devastator caught up with the rebels, and why he didn’t believe Leia about being on a diplomatic mission.

"Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel spies."

Many people view that as a small issue. I don't. I view it in the same light as Padme dies in chidlbirth yet somehow Leia remembers her real mother. It's not that hard to stick with what's already been established.


I just always viewed that Leia comment as sloppy, shitty writing from Lucas in the prequels. I didn't over-proscribe some meaning to it, just thought he got caught up in his own flawed BS there.
 
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cjg225 wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
On the contrary, it fits into IV perfectly; by the time we get to the start of IV it shows why Vader was so pissed when the Devastator caught up with the rebels, and why he didn’t believe Leia about being on a diplomatic mission.

"Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel spies."

Many people view that as a small issue. I don't. I view it in the same light as Padme dies in chidlbirth yet somehow Leia remembers her real mother. It's not that hard to stick with what's already been established.


I don’t see the issue; several transmissions were beamed to Admiral Raddus’ ship, and the Tantive IV was seen personally by Vader as fleeing from it after being intercepted. Regarding Leia’s comments about her mother, I’d always assumed she was speaking of her adopted mother and not Padme, since a newborn would have zero recollection of their birth unless the memories were explained as being something unique to Force-sensitives only.
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I just always viewed that Leia comment as sloppy, shitty writing from Lucas in the prequels. I didn't over-proscribe some meaning to it, just thought he got caught up in his own flawed BS there.


Well, yeah, that's precisely what it is: sloppy writing. That's what I'm saying. It's not that hard to conform to established material. And a line like that is a pretty damn specific one that doesn't give the leeway for the mother to die in childbirth.

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I don’t see the issue; several transmissions were beamed to Admiral Raddus’ ship, and the Tantive IV was seen personally by Vader as fleeing from it after being intercepted. Regarding Leia’s comments about her mother, I’d always assumed she was speaking of her adopted mother and not Padme, since a newborn would have zero recollection of their birth unless the memories were explained as being something unique to Force-sensitives only.

Tantive IV is a different ship, so... no. The plans were hand-carried onto Tantive IV. People can try to rationalize it all they want, but it was so easy to just do what the established line said, that the transmissions were beamed to this ship. Tantive IV is not a lifeboat. It's a fully-fledged other ship.

As for Leia, the line makes it abundantly clear that it's *not* her adopted mother. Luke says, "Do you remember your mother? Your real mother?" Not saying you're one, but Social Justice Warriors love to shout, "Adopted parents are real parents!" But be that as it may, the implication of the line is stunningly clear that Luke is speaking about Leia's birth mother, and Leia understands that.

And, yeah, I've heard the "Well, she's Force Sensitive, so she remembers her mother through the Force" thing before, which is a pretty nifty (but bad) contortion to make the line work.
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I just always viewed that Leia comment as sloppy, shitty writing from Lucas in the prequels. I didn't over-proscribe some meaning to it, just thought he got caught up in his own flawed BS there.


Well, yeah, that's precisely what it is: sloppy writing. That's what I'm saying. It's not that hard to conform to established material. And a line like that is a pretty damn specific one that doesn't give the leeway for the mother to die in childbirth.

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I don’t see the issue; several transmissions were beamed to Admiral Raddus’ ship, and the Tantive IV was seen personally by Vader as fleeing from it after being intercepted. Regarding Leia’s comments about her mother, I’d always assumed she was speaking of her adopted mother and not Padme, since a newborn would have zero recollection of their birth unless the memories were explained as being something unique to Force-sensitives only.

Tantive IV is a different ship, so... no. The plans were hand-carried onto Tantive IV. People can try to rationalize it all they want, but it was so easy to just do what the established line said, that the transmissions were beamed to this ship. Tantive IV is not a lifeboat. It's a fully-fledged other ship.

As for Leia, the line makes it abundantly clear that it's *not* her adopted mother. Luke says, "Do you remember your mother? Your real mother?" Not saying you're one, but Social Justice Warriors love to shout, "Adopted parents are real parents!" But be that as it may, the implication of the line is stunningly clear that Luke is speaking about Leia's birth mother, and Leia understands that.

And, yeah, I've heard the "Well, she's Force Sensitive, so she remembers her mother through the Force" thing before, which is a pretty nifty (but bad) contortion to make the line work.


Ultimately, who cares? It’s not always easy to reconcile these things when you’re expanding a story in a way not considered decades ago. There’s still those few unfortunate kisses between Luke and Leia early on, after all...
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Re: Star Wars episodes viewing order?

Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:44 pm

Or... you can throw your hands up and watch the even numbered Star Trek films ;)
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Re: Star Wars episodes viewing order?

Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:53 pm

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Ultimately, who cares? It’s not always easy to reconcile these things when you’re expanding a story in a way not considered decades ago. There’s still those few unfortunate kisses between Luke and Leia early on, after all...

I mean, clearly I do.

You're right it's not easy to reconcile things, but when it's really not that hard of a fix, that's what annoys me. When things like that happen, it makes me question how much they pay attention to what they're doing writing the stories in the first place.
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Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:26 am

I finally cut the cord and started using Firestick instead. Now I have a big library of films, and sometimes it is great to re-watch the old movies. Honestly speaking, I always watched Star Wars in numerical order but having looked through this topic, I decided to watch starting from 4, 5, 6. Then 1,2,3 ,7,8,9.
 
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Re: Star Wars episodes viewing order?

Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:50 pm

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8 is worth watching just for it's weirdness.


Having just re-watched The Last Jedi, I guess my opinion stays the same.

But I really don't find it a particularly good movie.

I guess at some point I will have to watch The Rise of Skywalker just to see how they managed to close this clusterf*ck of a trilogy (I mean, I already have read plot summaries, but still).

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You're right it's not easy to reconcile things, but when it's really not that hard of a fix, that's what annoys me. When things like that happen, it makes me question how much they pay attention to what they're doing writing the stories in the first place.


I think it's important to realize that George Lucas doesn't care nearly as much as fans do about continuity and such. He seems to focus much more on the story he's currently working on, and if that story requires modifying a few details, or just not worrying about them, then so be it.

Also, just so I'm clear, is your complaint that Vader states that "several transmissions were beamed to this ship" when the transmissions were actually beamed to another ship that this one was docked to?
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Re: Star Wars episodes viewing order?

Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:16 pm

vikkyvik wrote:
I think it's important to realize that George Lucas doesn't care nearly as much as fans do about continuity and such. He seems to focus much more on the story he's currently working on, and if that story requires modifying a few details, or just not worrying about them, then so be it.

Don't disagree. Lucas has long been open about that, too. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Also, just so I'm clear, is your complaint that Vader states that "several transmissions were beamed to this ship" when the transmissions were actually beamed to another ship that this one was docked to?

Correct. Obviously very small for many people. Not for me. Up there with the Padme-dies-in-childbirth thing in my view.
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