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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:42 pm

The one question I want to ask Dr. Conley (Trump's doctor):
Is the treatment that Trump underwent scalable and easily provided to anyone now who contracts COVID?

I am betting it is not.

(And even with that, seriously Trump does not look very healthy in even the "good shots" of him. I think he still has a decently long recovery ahead of him, probably made longer by his own actions.)

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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:50 pm

I also want to feel twenty years younger.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:06 pm

Every time I think this guy can't be even more of an ignoramus that he already has shown, he proves me wrong. His video last night was 100% nonsense and him now saying COVID is less fatal than the flu just shows he's clueless. Taking his joyride Sunday and taking off his mask before walking into the White House shows once again what we already knew. He cares about no one but himself. Come November 3rd I really hope Americans show they've had enough of this imbecile.
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:14 pm

Sokes wrote:
I also want to feel twenty years younger.


There is a reason he "felt better" than he did 20 years earlier: October 5, 2000 - 20 years ago - was the day he settled a fine with the New York Temporary State Commission on Lobbying for underhanded attempts to stop casino gambling in the Catskills, which would compete with his Atlantic City casinos.

Interestingly, he was accompanied in this operation by none other than Roger Stone. Stone, after getting Barr's intervention in his case, probably feels better than he felt 20 years ago, too...


:roll:

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/06/nyregion/trump-and-others-accept-fines-for-ads-in-opposition-to-casinos.html
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:34 pm

Sokes wrote:
I also want to feel twenty years younger.


All you need is to be whacked up on Adderall and Dexamethasone like Trump!
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:44 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
A far bigger question is why the Medical personell at the hospital allows the President to leave in his condition. He is clearly not well and certainly not ready to continue as president in his condition. Highly suspect by the doctors.


It's the patient's decision and medical staff cannot force a patient to stay unless for some psychiatric illnesses of certain severity.


I am sure there are public health risk laws to keep a contagious patient in away from the public. I think Fauci shouldn't open his mouth on TV. He said after 10 days from the offset of symptoms, one is not contagious anymore. Dr. Sure CanLie using Fauci's statement to justify his release.

Anyway it is only a matter of time we lose one or more CNN anchors, they cannot take this anymore.


You are right about dangerous contagious diseases and forced isolation but I am not sure if US laws requires this to be at a hospital?
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:18 pm

I think the media is both right and wrong on Trump’s decision to go back to the White House.

From a medical care standpoint it’s far more reasonable for Trump to recuperate at the White House than the average person at their home. While it doesn’t have all the facilities of a hospital, the medical facilities at the White House should be sufficient to treat and stabilize him before going back to a hospital if his condition worsens. Medical staff can be on hand round the clock to monitor his condition. I think the media has largely overlooked this in their reporting.

Trump’s behavior upon returning has been reprehensible. The media is absolutely right on this. Taking off his mask as he walked into a building full of staff is irresponsible. His thoughts that he’s immune now so he can throw caution to the wind is disgusting and shows total disregard to everyone else in the White House.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:42 pm

Interesting set of tweets ( https://twitter.com/MichelleObama/statu ... 9087887360 ) from Michele Obama, starting with:

My heart goes out to everyone touched by this virus, from those at the White House, especially the Secret Service and residence staff whose service ought never be taken for granted, to all those names and stories most of us will unfortunately never know.

and goes on with several more, one of which kind of hit home for me:

Because the drama of the past few days has only emphasized what’s at stake in this election, from the coronavirus to a constant drumbeat of fear, division, and chaos that’s threatening to spiral out of control.

Lord, I hope the majority of US voters are sick of the narcissistic man-child in the WH by now.

The man-child seriously only cares about himself and is only in office because there's an element in our society that relishes chaos.

Wouldn't it be nice to have hope, healing and calmness in our government instead of fear, division and chaos?
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:43 pm

Sokes wrote:
I also want to feel twenty years younger.


As a consequence of a fully taxpayer funded trip to one of the top hospitals in the world that is also.... government run and paid for...

Isn't socialized medicine great?
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:11 pm

My other question to anyone:
"Is this what you would do if you were infected with COVID-19 and returned to your home, still infected, to recuperate?"

I honestly cannot think of a single person I know that would. No one.

Tugg
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:19 pm

Tugger wrote:
My other question to anyone:
"Is this what you would do if you were infected with COVID-19 and returned to your home, still infected, to recuperate?"

I honestly cannot think of a single person I know that would. No one.

Tugg

It dovetails with something I saw on twitter: "There is nothing more American than going back to work when you’re still sick"...

Ref: https://twitter.com/IBD_GRich/status/13 ... 3677163521
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:28 pm

So are we just not talking about his taxes anymore? This is why I think the whole thing is a lie. We were talking about his taxes and then, miraculously, he gets the covid. One talking point out of MAGA I have seen that I think is absolutely disgusting is how dear leader is so much tougher than Biden for getting the covid.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:32 pm

Is anyone even remotely surprised by Trump's appalling behavior? If any of those WH staff subsequently die from Covid-19, Trump will have blood on his hands.
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:34 pm

bgm wrote:
Is anyone even remotely surprised by Trump's appalling behavior? If any of those WH staff subsequently die from Covid-19, Trump will have blood on his hands.


How could he have blood on his hands? He didn't know them. He never saw them, never worked with them. That is his line, right? Deny, deny, deny.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:37 pm

seb146 wrote:
So are we just not talking about his taxes anymore? This is why I think the whole thing is a lie. We were talking about his taxes and then, miraculously, he gets the covid. One talking point out of MAGA I have seen that I think is absolutely disgusting is how dear leader is so much tougher than Biden for getting the covid.


The taxes just come back closer to the election.... if they wanted to distract from that, they'd need to draw his infection out quite a bit. The NYT promised follow ups....

The curious bit is how hard they avoid telling the public when Trumps last negative test, or first positive test, was. Maybe he was already tested positive before the debate and chose to ignore it "I have a good immune system and won't have symptoms".

Attempting to kill your election opponent that way may not go over to well, I would hope that even just recklessly endergamering Biden wouldn't fare much better.

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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:41 pm

seb146 wrote:
So are we just not talking about his taxes anymore? This is why I think the whole thing is a lie. We were talking about his taxes and then, miraculously, he gets the covid. One talking point out of MAGA I have seen that I think is absolutely disgusting is how dear leader is so much tougher than Biden for getting the covid.


The man is a parasite. Spends years paying nothing in taxes, then gets experimental treatments for a disease that's sickened and killed thousands gratis, courtesy of the American taxpayer.
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:43 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
So are we just not talking about his taxes anymore? This is why I think the whole thing is a lie. We were talking about his taxes and then, miraculously, he gets the covid. One talking point out of MAGA I have seen that I think is absolutely disgusting is how dear leader is so much tougher than Biden for getting the covid.


The taxes just come back closer to the election.... if they wanted to distract from that, they'd need to draw his infection out quite a bit. The NYT promised follow ups....

The curious bit is how hard they avoid telling the public when Trumps last negative test, or first positive test, was. Maybe he was already tested positive before the debate and chose to ignore it "I have a good immune system and won't have symptoms".

Attempting to kill your election opponent that way may not go over to well, I would hope that even just recklessly endergamering Biden wouldn't fare much better.

Best regards
Thomas


This administration has been the most secrative and lying administration ever so who knows when he actually got it

https://www.npr.org/sections/latest-upd ... -diagnosis
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:16 pm

Tugger wrote:
My other question to anyone:
"Is this what you would do if you were infected with COVID-19 and returned to your home, still infected, to recuperate?"

I honestly cannot think of a single person I know that would. No one.

Tugg


Not a medical expert, but have several relatives in India went through this fiasco. Unlike our leader, it took them approximately 30 day total.

Test can only recognize beyond certain threshold, if your virus load is less that 10% you are considered less risk to others. One of my relative was at 14%, pros said he can resume normal living but keep mask on. The other way is to check % of antibodies, I guess 70%-80% you are cured. This was after 14 days self-quarantine.

Back to US, I can emphasize a minimum wage service/frontline worker who cannot stay at home. Not the 1%.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:30 am

It's Miller Time.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics ... index.html

Stephen Miller, a top policy adviser to President Donald Trump, has tested positive for coronavirus, he confirmed in a statement Tuesday.


Miller also traveled aboard Air Force One on a Minnesota campaign trip with Trump and Hicks. Officials have told CNN that Hicks began feeling sick while on the flight back to Washington after a fundraiser and campaign rally in the Land of 10,000 Lakes. She isolated in a separate cabin after she began displaying symptoms.
Miller's wife, Katie Miller, is Vice President Mike Pence's communications director. She already had coronavirus several months ago and tested negative again on Tuesday morning. She traveled with Pence to Salt Lake City ahead of the vice presidential debate scheduled for Wednesday, but left the trip Tuesday out of an abundance of caution, per an official.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:03 am

casinterest wrote:
It's Miller Time.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics ... index.html
Stephen Miller, a top policy adviser to President Donald Trump, has tested positive for coronavirus, he confirmed in a statement Tuesday.

Miller also traveled aboard Air Force One on a Minnesota campaign trip with Trump and Hicks. Officials have told CNN that Hicks began feeling sick while on the flight back to Washington after a fundraiser and campaign rally in the Land of 10,000 Lakes. She isolated in a separate cabin after she began displaying symptoms.
Miller's wife, Katie Miller, is Vice President Mike Pence's communications director. She already had coronavirus several months ago and tested negative again on Tuesday morning. She traveled with Pence to Salt Lake City ahead of the vice presidential debate scheduled for Wednesday, but left the trip Tuesday out of an abundance of caution, per an official.


There it is! Proof positive that reptiles can contract the Coronavirus...

;)
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:41 am

According to the BBC coronavirus has started to affect trumps inner ring, sounds very painful!

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Tugger wrote:
And this just popped in my head:

Seasons don't fear the COVID
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain (we can be like they are)

Come on baby (don't fear the COVID)
Baby take my hand (don't fear the COVID)
We'll be able to fly (don't fear the COVID)
Baby I'm your man

:spin:
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Ironically "Don't Fear The Reaper" was the theme music for the TV series "The Stand" which was about a post-apocalyptic world.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:29 pm

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According to the BBC coronavirus has started to affect trumps inner ring, sounds very painful!


Well played, Sir!
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:34 pm

White House to have more Covid-19 infections than New Zealand. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB19FDGe
 
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Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:31 pm

T4thH wrote:
Have they been able to identify, who brought the plaque into the White House? Have they been able to identify the infection chain, to avoid recurrence?


apparently the White House even refuses to do contact tracing. Imagine that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/heal ... house.html

I guess their thinking is "Trump already got it, why care about anyone else".... that is sort of their campaign slogan after all.

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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:47 pm

100,000 dollars folks so you can feel great

https://news.yahoo.com/much-trumps-coro ... 18676.html
President Donald Trump spent three days in the hospital. He arrived and left by helicopter. And he received multiple coronavirus tests, oxygen, steroids and an experimental antibody treatment.

For someone who isn’t president, that would cost more than $100,000 in the American health system. Patients could face significant surprise bills and medical debt even after health insurance paid its share.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 pm

The infection has, it would seem, made its way to the highest levels of the US military apparatus - Joint Chiefs now quarantining with a senior member of the Coast Guard testing positive - https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcev ... 7779861b29

How the f*ck was this allowed to happen?!?
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:11 pm

casinterest wrote:
ItnStln wrote:
casinterest wrote:
100,000 dollars folks so you can feel great

https://news.yahoo.com/much-trumps-coro ... 18676.html

I have health insurance so it wouldn't have cost me more than $100,000. If someone doesn't have health insurance that's their problem.


Typical answer from someone that doesn't understand healthcare. You usually can't work when you are sick enough to nee that kind of care.
your coworkers and everyone else on your insurance plan subsidize your care.

I do understand healthcare and I fail to see the point you're so poorly trying to make.
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:20 pm

May I kindly ask you to stay on topic and to stop personal attackas against each other? Thanks.
 
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:51 pm

Some food for thought, in case you're wondering which approaches for managing COVID-19 are working and which are not:

New COVID-19 cases in past week:

Vietnam - 5
Taiwan - 9
Yemen - 10
New Zealand - 25

White House - 34

Ref: https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/statu ... 2560915456
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:59 pm

Revelation wrote:
Some food for thought, in case you're wondering which approaches for managing COVID-19 are working and which are not:

New COVID-19 cases in past week:

Vietnam - 5
Taiwan - 9
Yemen - 10
New Zealand - 25

White House - 34

Ref: https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/statu ... 2560915456


If that doesn’t say everything about the rampant unprofessionalism and incompetence in the WH, then nothing does.
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Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:43 pm

Yemen having only ten cases seems... unlikely, under the circumstances.
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