Francoflier wrote:

petertenthije wrote:

Sokes wrote:

I still wonder that nobody within the party killed Hitler for his betrayal.

Probably for the same reason only a handful of republicans stood up against Trump. Hitler/Trump delivered them the Reichstag/White House.

Assuming Trump looses, which seems likely at this point, I guarantee you that within the year most republicans will tell everyone “I never truly supported Trump”.

Heck, to some degree this has already been happening. Though at the moment from voters only, not so much from the republican leadership... yet.

Yep, they'll drop him like a dirty tissue. He was always just a means to an end for the GOP, a useful idiot that gained them plenty of votes. Once he's of no use to them anymore, he might find himself quite lonely.
Such is the way in the mafia-like World he thrives in. This might happen soon.

As for the election, I wonder why some outlets are calling AZ for Trump... It seems way too early.

Arion640 wrote:

I think Trump could genuinely take Arizona, i might be wrong, but he’s certainly lost the election.

TheSonntag wrote:

What really surprised me from the outside is that Foxnews actually did a rather decent job with their maps.

I am curious about Arizona. I wonder why Fox News was so fast giving it to Biden.

TheSonntag wrote:

What really surprised me from the outside is that Foxnews actually did a rather decent job with their maps.

I am curious about Arizona. I wonder why Fox News was so fast giving it to Biden.

Aaron747 wrote:

TheSonntag wrote:

What really surprised me from the outside is that Foxnews actually did a rather decent job with their maps.

I am curious about Arizona. I wonder why Fox News was so fast giving it to Biden.

Actually since at least 2008, Fox has had a very well-regarded elections desk and polling operation - probably the best among the major news networks. Don't confuse their news operation with their wacky evening hosts.

Trump supporters across the United States increasingly say they no longer trust Fox News, the Rupert Murdoch-owned TV network that has acted as one of the president’s staunchest allies in past years.

As Fox News announced more state-level victories for Joe Biden on Wednesday, Trump supporters across the country grew more vocal in their frustration with the network. Some say they have shifted their allegiance to media outlets that lean even further right, such as One America News, which employs a prominent conspiracy theorist as one of its correspondents.

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

It seems Fox news is no longer enough right wing for Trump voters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... cea9e5c1e3

Trump supporters across the United States increasingly say they no longer trust Fox News, the Rupert Murdoch-owned TV network that has acted as one of the president’s staunchest allies in past years.

As Fox News announced more state-level victories for Joe Biden on Wednesday, Trump supporters across the country grew more vocal in their frustration with the network. Some say they have shifted their allegiance to media outlets that lean even further right, such as One America News, which employs a prominent conspiracy theorist as one of its correspondents.

cpd wrote:

If Trump loses, his time in politics is finished for good I suspect.

tommy1808 wrote:

cpd wrote:

If Trump loses, his time in politics is finished for good I suspect.

With the mountains of indictments probably dropping on his head he may be finished, period.

best regards
Thomas

bgm wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

cpd wrote:

If Trump loses, his time in politics is finished for good I suspect.

With the mountains of indictments probably dropping on his head he may be finished, period.

best regards
Thomas

Anyone want to place bets that if Trump loses, he'll be on a one way flight out on Jan 20th to a country without an extradition treaty with the US?

N14AZ wrote:

bgm wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

With the mountains of indictments probably dropping on his head he may be finished, period.

best regards
Thomas

Anyone want to place bets that if Trump loses, he'll be on a one way flight out on Jan 20th to a country without an extradition treaty with the US?

Didn’t he even mention something like this? „Maybe I will have to leave the country..“, that’s what he said IIRC...

Far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones joined supporters of President Trump gathered outside of Maricopa County's Elections Department in downtown Phoenix
for a third consecutive night of protest on Thursday.

Waving "Trump 2020" and American flags, members of the crowd — some of whom were armed — shook Jones’ hand before he stood to address
them over a megaphone, urging them to not accept any potential election results.

"No matter what happens in this election, the fight’s out in the open now!" said Jones on video verified by NBC News. "The real fight starts now."

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

Would this be considered as Inciting a riot?

tommy1808 wrote:

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

Would this be considered as Inciting a riot?

by the current AG or a real one?

best regards
Thomas

TheFlyingDisk wrote:

So...

...who won?

art wrote:

Interesting to hear a Fox news speaker talking of 'voter suppression' an hour ago. The charge was that the pollsters published inflated figures favouring Biden, thereby discouraging voters from voting (I guess on the basis that Trump voters were misled into believing the result was a foregone conclusion, so did not vote).

A ground on which to query that this was a free and fair election?

AeroVega wrote:

I find it more likely that it works the other way around. Voters may think that Trump is going to lose anyway, so no need to vote for Biden. I think this is part of the reason why Hillary lost 4 years ago.

It is at this point that Trump has a strong case pending in the US supreme court. His campaign and the Republican Party of Pennsylvania can challenge the vote in the state on the grounds that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unconstitutionally interfered with the state legislature’s sole authority over the time, place, and manner of federal elections and over the selection of presidential electors.

art wrote:

I noticed that the number of EC seats attributed to Biden had risen from 253 to 264 on one or more US networks. And Trump +1 to 214 (presumably 2nd district in Maine).

art wrote:

I do not understand why North Carolina is receiving so little comment.

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

Hopefully Bidens takes Georgia and Arizona then nobody will care about PA.

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

Hopefully Bidens takes Georgia and Arizona then nobody will care about PA.

AirWorthy99 wrote:

Georgia has pending 9000+ Military ballots. Highly unlikely the vast majority will be for Biden.

casinterest wrote:

AirWorthy99 wrote:

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

Hopefully Bidens takes Georgia and Arizona then nobody will care about PA.

Georgia has pending 9000+ Military ballots. Highly unlikely the vast majority will be for Biden.

As for AZ, the tendency is Trump might just become even with Biden.

This ain't over yet.

9000 were shipped to the Military, but how many will send it back? Maybe 60-70% And how big will the difference be?

Trump’s allies have grown concerned that someone is going to have to reckon with the President that his time in office is potentially coming to an end, though they have not decided who should be the one to do it. There has been talk of potentially Jared Kushner or Ivanka Trump doing so, sources said.

PixelPilot wrote:

luckyone wrote:

rfields5421 wrote:

Pure personal opinion and I could be wrong. - and of course contingent of Biden winning the Electoral College Vote

I think Trump leaves the White House peacefully either Jan 19 or early Jan 20. He does not allow his White House staff or other appointees to assist in the transition. It is traditional for all Cabinet Secretaries and upper level appointees to resign. Trump loyalists do not submit resignations, thus they must be fired in a 'bloodbath' by Biden in the first few days.

Trump has a perfect platform to talk about being forced out by a coup for the next four years, and a LOT of people will believe him.

Yup. He's writing his ticket on the speech and book circuit. Should he lose I expect he'll be a regular on a few of his favorite talk shows "When I was POTUS we did it this way," or "This wouldn't have happened if I were still POTUS." And it wouldn't surprise me were he to become an expert on election fraud.

Who knows, maybe he'll join CNN as political commentator ?

AirWorthy99 wrote:

casinterest wrote:

AirWorthy99 wrote:

Georgia has pending 9000+ Military ballots. Highly unlikely the vast majority will be for Biden.

As for AZ, the tendency is Trump might just become even with Biden.

This ain't over yet.

9000 were shipped to the Military, but how many will send it back? Maybe 60-70% And how big will the difference be?

Right now, Biden is ahead 1000 votes. Trump will increase his advantage there possibly higher.

As for PA, thousands of ballots received after election night, let the Supreme Court say if they are legal or not.

AZ, the tendency is towards Trump.

This will not be over yet. Yes Trump is less likely to win, but this will likely drag on.

This is Joan Greve in Washington, taking over for Martin Belam.

At least one outlet has already called Pennsylvania -- and the presidency along with it -- for Joe Biden, but we are awaiting the official word from the AP.

Decision Desk HQ projects that @JoeBiden
has won Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral college votes for a total of 273.

Joe Biden has been elected the 46th President of the United States of America.

Race called at 11-06 08:50 AM EST

CRJ200flyer wrote:

Federal judge rejects Trump’s lawsuit in Pennsylvania to stop ballot counting:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-dismisses-trump-request-to-stop-counting-philadelphia-ballots

hoons90 wrote:

Decision Desk HQ has now called the election for Biden.

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

N14AZ wrote:

Just read on CNN that:

Trump’s allies have grown concerned that someone is going to have to reckon with the President that his time in office is potentially coming to an end, though they have not decided who should be the one to do it. There has been talk of potentially Jared Kushner or Ivanka Trump doing so, sources said.

Source: cnn live ticker

I immediately had to think about this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5q0ajW8Ko