Unsurprisingly it looks like a troupe of armed Trump supporters were planning an attack in Philadelphia. I'm glad this one was foiled.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... -election/
Prosecutors here charged two Virginia men with weapons violations after police arrested them while they carried guns near the convention center, where votes from the presidential election have been counted this week amid dueling demonstrations outside.
Police said the FBI received a tip Thursday about an armed group traveling from Virginia to Philadelphia, one of the cities where the ongoing vote-counting has spurred sometimes tense protests. Police found the car associated with the tip, and then the men, on Thursday night.
Philadelphia police said they located the armed men near the convention center late Thursday after being tipped off about people with guns traveling there in a silver Hummer with Virginia license plates. Police found the Hummer and then two bike patrol officers spotted the two men, both of whom were arrested for having guns they were not allowed to carry in the city, the department said. A woman apparently traveling with them was not arrested, officials said.
Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner identified the two men as 42-year-old Joshua Macias and 61-year-old Antonio LaMotta, both of Chesapeake, Va. Krasner said they were both charged with having a concealed firearm without a license, a third-degree felony, and carrying a firearm on public streets or public property, a first-degree misdemeanor.
Photos of the Hummer captured what appeared to be a hat inside bearing an insignia for QAnon, a far-right conspiracy theory, as well as a decal on its rear window bearing an abbreviation of that group’s rallying cry, “Where we go one, we go all."
Danielle Outlaw, the Philadelphia police commissioner, said LaMotta was seen carrying a 9mm pistol visible in a hip holster, while Macias had a handgun concealed under his jacket. Outlaw said that Macias had a Virginia concealed carry permit. After the men gave police consent to search their Hummer, an AR-15-style rifle was recovered inside it, she said. In total, Krasner said about 160 rounds of ammunition were found.
Affidavits have already been delivered to the DOJ that cheating occurred. It's easier to catch something that happens in almost every election to some degree than to catch lightning in a bottle..
There is a huge difference between finding some specific mistakes and finding several thousands to change the results.
You have to let him go on his wild goose chase. The right wing sites are all passing around these claims.
When all the is said and done, there will be few if any cheating uncovered. More likely errors made accidentally, and they will not be enough to overcome the vote totals.
Something that none of you have mentioned yet; in a close result, accidental errors are just as likely to benefit Biden as Trump. I've seen it with my own eyes; here are 10 votes in pile A that should be in pile B, and here are 11 votes that are the other way around. After days of wrangling, the end result is still the same.
Of course, if there is any deliberate
fraud, then my money is on it being by GOP supporters, and Trump's litigation will (once again) more likely disadvantage his own ilk - as if he cares one iota for his loyal followers....
My money is that there are any irregularities, it will be a single digit number of votes being miscounted or counted twice in one single county/precinct and for Donald at his bootlickers to claim that that was what cost them the election.
Can anyone find for me the registration of Kamala's Bombardier GLEX (unlikely to actually be hers, obviously)? I'm suddenly curious.
Almost certainly a charter by the campaign. That way it is a legal campaign cost..
EDIT of the above post after the forum edit deadline.
Found this link - https://jettip.net/blog/tracking-the-2020-us-presidential-campaign-aircraft
Exactly the kind of info I was looking for - thanks! Looks like she was flying N989RJ.
EVERYONE listens to the figureheads that support their opinion, and dismisses the others as idiots.
IMO the issue is deeper than that. Thanks to the internet, we are in an age where one can shop around for information that suits our opinion and IMO that means that some/lots/most people form their opinion before weighing the evidence. If I decide that I don't like wearing face masks a few minutes of googling will yield me a host of information on the "anti-mask" spectrum about everything from how "masks don't work", "masks work, but not against Coronavirus", "N90 masks work but everything else is useless" to "masks are a tool for governments to control you and the next step is slavery". Some of the people espousing these views will have credible qualifications/backgrounds like Doctors and Professors and thus someone can essentially go shopping for whichever bit of evidence most closely matches their opinion. In the past, the media would report on what was "most credible". Nowadays, most of the media will try and be "balanced" and offer relatively equal time to both sides of an issue, regardless of credibility. Thus you end up in a situation where lots of people think that Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax and that Vaccines sometimes give you autism.
If I decide that there was voter fraud in PA then I'm sure that a bit of googling would be able to come up with some evidence of it (credible or otherwise). I applaud the media for calling out Donnie's falsehoods, but they shouldn't have started doing so just now.
Donald Trump's campaign have filed 10 lawsuits so far all of which merely impact only the oversight of ballot counting or a handful of votes that they allege have been mishandled. All ten of them have already been thrown out
, and based on their desperate fundraising efforts and outstanding campaign debt the purse is going to run empty soon.
Well obviously those judges are part of the Deep State.
"Procecution look childish and petty"?
Rule of law anyone?, "rich, white guy gets away with a dozen felonies" certainly isn't what makes the divide go away.
Yeah exactly. Rule of law is pointless if it's not enforced on the rich and powerful. There has to be consequences for illegal actions or the next person will do so even further. Give an inch, they'll take a mile. And I'm absolutely fine with Obama or Clinton being prosecuted if they did anything illegal. Not charging Trump for the crimes that he committed isn't going to make the MAGA folks think that the deep state hasn't been working against him.
Robert Mueller says that a president can be charged after leaving office.https://youtu.be/eRYiPzDP94I?t=72
So people that vote and think differently should leave their home nation?
Haven't you spend the last four years saying that people who are opposed to Brexit should either get over it or leave?
Why do so many people want to see Trump persecuted?
Because he broke the law.
I want to see Bush persecuted.
So do I, but Obama screwed that one up - didn't have them investigated in the name of "unity". How did that work out? If Bush had been put on trial for his crimes and faced the consequences for them then IMO we would have had a much different Trump Presidency.
Biden will do exactly what he currently does about Trump... He will keep ignoring him and likely never mention him at all.
He will strive to undo his damage while only referring to it as the work of 'the previous administration'.
Now that he's won, calling him out would stigmatize his base and hamper his goal to unite the nation, but offering him an olive branch would tacitly endorse his despicable behavior and actions (and Trump wouldn't take it anyway).
He'll simply never directly mention him and let the justice system (along with all the other agencies and individuals Trump will have to answer to) deal with him while distancing himself from any proceeding, as he should.
The most mature way to handle this.