N867DA wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:N867DA wrote:
I agree immigration needs to be balanced with the needs of Americans, and the economy is something that should be considered when weighing immigration policy. I do not trust Donald Trump to do this responsibly.
What is wrong with an elite in the White House? I want people who are educated and able to make nuanced policy decisions, uniters who do not make their own countrymen feel unwanted or marginalized, achievers who are good at negotiating instead of ducking their responsibilities when things get tough in charge. "I take no responsibility at all" should not be uttered by a sitting president, and in better times would be taken as abdication of the role of president. Remember "The buck stops here"? Donald Trump is incredibly polarizing and divisive, to the point where he publicly threatens to not fund states after disasters because their governors are of the opposite party. America's rejection of Donald Trump while support for downballot Republicans speaks volumes--nothing wrong with conservatism but Donald needs to go.
So many myths that are still going around.
The wise, intelligent, talented, gifted elite of this country has run this country down to the abyss. They have been ruling this country till all of the sudden uncontrollable and crazy Donald took the WH. That's why for 4 years we have seen the attacks by all fronts, some were deserved, but the vast majority exaggerated and crazy, like Russian collusion and impeachment for a phone call.
These elites you prefer to allow your country be governed got us to many many foreign conflicts, I know you might have forgotten by now, I know you probably think we won't do them again, but almost all presidents have gotten us into wars which made no absolute sense. From Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya you name it.
One thing we the average Joe don't know is that these elites are elite because they follow the same old doctrine. They get into the best schools, get the DC job, then become wealthy private citizens (and repeat for generations). That's the elite that will come back in 2024. And possibly stay there for the foreseeable future even if a GOP president comes back in 2024.
Hate Trump or not, he was the result of the populace of this country tired and fed up with the elites only thinking about themselves and their bottom line for generations.
OK, but what has Donald Trump done that any boilerplate neocon would not have done, besides a few embarrassing tweets, being needlessly divisive, and enriching his own pockets? Here is the GOP's 2004 Party Platform: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen ... y-platform . It is lengthy, so here is a summary: https://www.ontheissues.org/2004_GOP_Platform.htm
Please point out where Donald Trump significantly deviates from this sixteen-year old document. I have found maybe three or four, regarding tariffs and perhaps foreign engagement. Both of those are somewhat a reach, becuase even GWB used tariffs for economic protectionism and troop counts (including third party 'contractor" troops) have not significantly fallen. Correction: US Troop counts in Iraq and Afghanistan have fallen significantly over the past four years. While some of it is due to timing (notably that those countries have an able-bodied air force and army) a lot is due to effort to drawdown troops. There about 25,000 contractors in Afghanistan, of which a fifth are security.
I also think isolationism--which is what Trump champions--is worse for America. We succeed because we are industrious, freedom-loving, and project soft and hard power globally. I am happy Trump did not increase foreign engagements. I am even happier with his work in the Middle East and give him full credit for his work there. I am not at all happy with his larger foreign policy stance.
Is it more possible that Donald Trump has made impassioned speeches that appeal to people who feel that elites have run the country "into the abyss" while doing the exact same things as his predecessors, but with more hateful, vulgar, divisive language? Not only are you getting screwed by the President, you're being asked to distrust the people telling you you're getting screwed.
I don't think Democrats or Republicans have all the answers. I think the Democrats are closer, and make no attempts to hide that opinion. Republicans have some good ideas, especially about the importance of working hard and perseverance. But Trump and his message is not good for America.
I beg to differ. When Trump assumed office, we were on the brink of war with North Korea. Yes it was a bit embarrassing him meeting Kim, but that averted death, by the thousands at the very least.
His policy towards the Middle East has worked well, considering Iran has been held into account, and peace is breaking between Arab nations and Israel. I consider that another win.
Whereas Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama policy got the Middle east burning. Bush the first getting us into Iraq, allowing Osama Bin Laden recruit and build up during the Clinton years, then Bush getting us back into Iraq, which eventually led to the Arab Spring which Obama supported and got us turmoil in the Middle east, to the point of eventually getting us the Islamic state.
All of the last things I mentioned were policy decisions made by this elite you so cherish take back power and they will. Watch what happens and if we get back into war. God forbid we wont.
But as a conservative I am very very happy with Trump not sending our men and women to die in stupid wars. That's a huge accomplishment, despite what ever the MSM and the globalist elite say, we should spend that money here at home, building our economy and our military against the rising China threat.