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Re: Official US Election thread

Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:23 am

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What most Cuban-Americans seem to not understand then is that a confrontational stance with the Cuban regime will only make it worse for Cuba and its people and strengthen the regime.
The road towards a more democratic and fair system that is more respectful of its citizens is long and slow, and it starts with a diplomatic and negotiated approach.
It involves opening up the country and stimulating its economy.

That's a thing the Obama administration did right.

Ditto with Iran, for that matter.


Precisely. A lot of people have this bizarre perception that embattled relations will make an unsavory government capitulate. Ummm, no.
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Re: Official US Election thread

Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:01 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
Francoflier wrote:
What most Cuban-Americans seem to not understand then is that a confrontational stance with the Cuban regime will only make it worse for Cuba and its people and strengthen the regime.
The road towards a more democratic and fair system that is more respectful of its citizens is long and slow, and it starts with a diplomatic and negotiated approach.
It involves opening up the country and stimulating its economy.

That's a thing the Obama administration did right.

Ditto with Iran, for that matter.


Precisely. A lot of people have this bizarre perception that embattled relations will make an unsavory government capitulate. Ummm, no.



If anything Trump is proving that embattled relations only made him stronger with his base, and it proves how incorrect he was in his policy choices with Iran and Cuba,
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Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:54 pm

Just in case any of you missed the interview, or if there are some of you that are committed to sending Trump more of your hard earned dollars to fight non existent fraud.

Chris Krebs has thoroughly refuted Trump's claims of Fraud.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-r ... 020-11-29/



At the Capitol, the stage is going up for Inauguration Day, January 20. Well before that, on December 14 the presidential electors will cast their ballots—which should settle the election. Christopher Krebs told us it's ironic that the disruption and disinformation he feared from abroad came, instead, from Pennsylvania Avenue.

Scott Pelley: The president says you're dead wrong about election security, and to him you say what?

Chris Krebs: There is no foreign power that is flipping votes. There's no domestic actor flipping votes. I did it right. We did it right. This was a secure election.
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Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:13 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Krebs

Not on the President's Christmas card list.

He told the truth and paid the price.

Hopefully he will find a new role where the truth is valued.
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:41 pm

A Politico article about the election process in Michigan and how the lawyer Aaron Van Langevelde stood up against Trump by simply doing his duty.

After five years spent bullying the Republican Party into submission, President Donald Trump finally met his match in Aaron Van Langevelde.

Who?

That’s right. In the end, it wasn’t a senator or a judge or a general who stood up to the leader of the free world. There was no dramatic, made-for-Hollywood collision of cosmic egos. Rather, the death knell of Trump’s presidency was sounded by a baby-faced lawyer, looking over his glasses on a grainy Zoom feed on a gloomy Monday afternoon, reading from a statement that reflected a courage and moral clarity that has gone AWOL from his party, pleading with the tens of thousands of people watching online to understand that some lines can never be uncrossed.

“We must not attempt to exercise power we simply don’t have,” declared Van Langevelde, a member of Michigan’s board of state canvassers, the ministerial body with sole authority to make official Joe Biden’s victory over Trump. “As John Adams once said, 'We are a government of laws, not men.' This board needs to adhere to that principle here today. This board must do its part to uphold the rule of law and comply with our legal duty to certify this election.


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... acy-440475
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Re: Official US Election thread

Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:49 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
A Politico article about the election process in Michigan and how the lawyer Aaron Van Langevelde stood up against Trump by simply doing his duty.

After five years spent bullying the Republican Party into submission, President Donald Trump finally met his match in Aaron Van Langevelde.

Who?

That’s right. In the end, it wasn’t a senator or a judge or a general who stood up to the leader of the free world. There was no dramatic, made-for-Hollywood collision of cosmic egos. Rather, the death knell of Trump’s presidency was sounded by a baby-faced lawyer, looking over his glasses on a grainy Zoom feed on a gloomy Monday afternoon, reading from a statement that reflected a courage and moral clarity that has gone AWOL from his party, pleading with the tens of thousands of people watching online to understand that some lines can never be uncrossed.

“We must not attempt to exercise power we simply don’t have,” declared Van Langevelde, a member of Michigan’s board of state canvassers, the ministerial body with sole authority to make official Joe Biden’s victory over Trump. “As John Adams once said, 'We are a government of laws, not men.' This board needs to adhere to that principle here today. This board must do its part to uphold the rule of law and comply with our legal duty to certify this election.


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... acy-440475

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Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:41 pm

Another man who deserves to go a long way.

No, I don't mean Donald Trump.
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:41 am

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Another man who deserves to go a long way.

No, I don't mean Donald Trump.


Well... Trump legal team is now in full on ISIS mode and demands people being shot....

Trump campaign lawyer says former cybersecurity chief should be 'shot'


https://money.yahoo.com/trump-campaign- ... 17518.html

One could also think they are so busy committing crimes that enough people in Trumps orbit will get indicted to spin it into a "they are jailing the opposition" narrative to their victims...

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Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:50 pm

Having read the item, will he be shot before or after being drawn and quartered?.
 
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Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:56 pm

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Having read the item, will he be shot before or after being drawn and quartered?.


it would be a bit redundant to do both, maybe he just wanted to bring across that they want to burn the constitution as a whole, because only than could anyone be drawn an quartered. ..... it is kinda unusual punishment and that is kinda illegal.

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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:26 pm

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Having read the item, will he be shot before or after being drawn and quartered?.


Before, but after the book-burning and the nazi chants.


It was quite amusing seeing the governor of Arizona pulling his phone out of his jacket and pushing it aside on the table as Trump was calling him while he was in the process of certifying the AZ election result, presumably to implore/threaten him not to do it... And Trump probably watched him do it on TV as he was calling.

As the kids say... oof.

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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:45 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
Well... Trump legal team is now in full on ISIS mode and demands people being shot....

Trump campaign lawyer says former cybersecurity chief should be 'shot'


https://money.yahoo.com/trump-campaign- ... 17518.html


Well Trump greatly admires Kim Jong-Un, and that's one right out of his playbook.

Francoflier wrote:
As the kids say... oof.


Oof indeed!
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Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:04 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged%2C ... _quartered

I think that this counts as cruel and unusual punishment.

Not for the squeamish!!!..
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:16 pm

The tantrum continues. Now the President is angry with the Governor of Arizona, who may have ghosted a phone call from the President on live television while certifying his state's results.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 474822002/

The Governor, Lt. Gov, and SoS in Georgia are all now saying Trump and his goons are endangering the Senate run-offs in that State. Aside from raking in cash (apparently around $170 million proving fools are easily conned out of their money), I wonder if this is what Trump actually fears, that he will be relegated to a secondary consideration by people who no longer benefit from his association.
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:38 pm

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Aside from raking in cash (apparently around $170 million proving fools are easily conned out of their money),


Not that mich considering what a massive campaign they mounted to get people to donate....

Someone that supposedly got over 70 million votes doesn't even get each of them to toss ten quarters in so far? MAGA hats are 30 USD... should be many times 170 million.

Sounds like 70+ million votes are statistically impossible,
massive voter fraud! Sad!

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Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:50 pm

Especially given that this clown put in $2.5M.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... hKeEfr1ick

Would he like a beachfront property in Arizona.

How does anyone that smart ever get to have $2.5M?.
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:32 pm

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The tantrum continues. Now the President is angry with the Governor of Arizona, who may have ghosted a phone call from the President on live television while certifying his state's results.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 474822002/

The Governor, Lt. Gov, and SoS in Georgia are all now saying Trump and his goons are endangering the Senate run-offs in that State. Aside from raking in cash (apparently around $170 million proving fools are easily conned out of their money), I wonder if this is what Trump actually fears, that he will be relegated to a secondary consideration by people who no longer benefit from his association.


It seems we’re slowly entering the “don’t get caught holding the bag” stage of this presidency experiment.

It's an interesting evolution of U.S. Politics. The GOP seems to be pushing the narrative that there is a massive divide in the Democratic party. All while their own party is dividing quite sharply over support of Trump.

What makes it more interesting is that there is indeed a split growing in the Democratic party, but it's more policy and future plans based than simply supporting an individual in the moment.

My point for either party has always been the same. Get the geriatrics out of politics. They're making plans for a country they'll never live to see.
 
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Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:02 pm

AG Barr now saying no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the election. Low payout for anyone betting he'll need a new job next week.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... ome-441832
 
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Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:46 pm

luckyone wrote:
AG Barr now saying no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the election. Low payout for anyone betting he'll need a new job next week.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... ome-441832


Probably just doesn't want to get charged as a co-conspirator and understands Trump won't remove his 5th amendment rights by pardoning him.

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Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:56 pm

And another entry in "Only the Best People," Trump's Lawyer but not Lawyer Sidney "Pazza" Powell has potentially created for herself a wee problem of falsified evidence. A "Kraken" lawsuit that bears her name claims that the Secretary of the State of Georgia “rushed through the purchase of Dominion voting machines and software in 2019 for the 2020 Presidential Election,” declaring that “a certificate from the Secretary of State was awarded to Dominion Voting Systems but is undated.” She then attached said agreement...but apparently accidentally lopped off the bottom third of the page that was dated. And all she can say is "whoopsie."


https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/s ... qus_thread

And in a separate suit in Michigan, some of her evidence involves voting numbers from a county that does not exist. Sigh.
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:57 pm

luckyone wrote:
AG Barr now saying no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the election. Low payout for anyone betting he'll need a new job next week.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... ome-441832

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Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:11 am

ER757 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
AG Barr now saying no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the election. Low payout for anyone betting he'll need a new job next week.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... ome-441832

So much winning!! Hey Donnie, as Frankie Fane said to his house boy in "The Oscar" move: "Pack your stuff and split"


Now it's cash for pardons:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 56jux.html

If that is real, it's extremely corrupt conduct. But I imagine the Republicans will defend it strongly because it "activates" the left. It would be interesting to know who is involved, but that's all masked out.
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:56 am

cpd wrote:
ER757 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
AG Barr now saying no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the election. Low payout for anyone betting he'll need a new job next week.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/0 ... ome-441832

So much winning!! Hey Donnie, as Frankie Fane said to his house boy in "The Oscar" move: "Pack your stuff and split"


Now it's cash for pardons:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 56jux.html

If that is real, it's extremely corrupt conduct. But I imagine the Republicans will defend it strongly because it "activates" the left. It would be interesting to know who is involved, but that's all masked out.

Pure speculation on my part, but we’ve most certainly seen both of those redacted names in the news the past few weeks. So much swamp draining.
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:27 am

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It would be interesting to know who is involved, but that's all masked out.


I'm betting the name "Rudy" shows up in some of that redacted territory. Wanna bet?

;)
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:53 am

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cpd wrote:
It would be interesting to know who is involved, but that's all masked out.


I'm betting the name "Rudy" shows up in some of that redacted territory. Wanna bet?

;)


must be tough for Trump.... "I can pardon Rudy since he was such a faithful vassal, but if i do he has to sit down with investigators and talk as he can´t claim the 5th".

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Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:30 am

So best for Trump to not pardon him and him take the 5th.
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:35 am

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So best for Trump to not pardon him and him take the 5th.


...and then the incoming new AG has to consider giving Rudy immunity, and taking the 5th away from him anyways...

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P.S. Trump was absolutely banking on being able to sit statues of limitation out in office. And funny enough he absolutely would have with only a halfway competent reaction to the new Corona Virus
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:37 am

alfa164 wrote:
cpd wrote:
It would be interesting to know who is involved, but that's all masked out.


I'm betting the name "Rudy" shows up in some of that redacted territory. Wanna bet?

;)


News Limited reckons it's his kids:

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 264df40c7b
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:53 am

Meanwhile his mob stokes trouble in Georgia;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55153918
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:11 pm

Current Status:
National Vote:
Biden: 81,056,268 (51.3%)
Trump: 74,115,722(46.9%)
Dems +2.3% from 2016 Total

Florida:
Biden 5,297,045(47.9%)
Trump:5,668,731(51.2%)
Reps +2.2% from 2016

Georgia:
Biden: 2,474,507 (49.5%)
Trump: 2,461,837(49.3%)
Dems: +5.4% from 2016

Michigan:
Biden: 2,804,040 (50.6%)
Trump: 2,649,852(47.8%)
Dems+3% from 2016

Nevada:
Biden:703,486 (50.1%)
Trump:669,890(47.7%)
0% from 2016 ( towards Rep )

North Carolina:
Biden: 2,684,292 (48.6%)
Trump: 2,758,775(49.9%)
Dems +2.3% from 2016

Pennsylvania:
Biden: 3,459,923(50.0%)
Trump:3,378,263(48.8%)
Dems +1.9% from 2016

Arizona:
Biden:1,672,143 (49.4%)
Trump:1,661,686(49.1%)
Dems +3.9% from 2016

Wisconsin:
Biden:1,630,866(49.4%)
Trump:1,610,184(48.8%)
Dems +1.4% from 2016



The interesting thing to look at is Raw Vote in 2020 over 2016
+15.7%

This election brought out huge numbers.
Interestingly there were only 7 states where Republicans did better percentage wise than they did in 2016 .

Only 3 statistically outside of 1%
Hawaii(I think tourism is nailing Hawaii and Florida)
Utah( this could be due to more accepting Trump.
Florida


https://cookpolitical.com/2020-national ... te-tracker

Interesting stats here. What do you all think?
It seems Biden managed to Crush Trump more than a lot of people think when you look at the Margin shifts, and it shows issues for the GOP going forward.

Trump has definitely CULTivated a following, and it is hard to see how the Republicans will be able to go forward with Trump yearning for a 2024 run, while working on setting his legacy on fire the last 50 days.
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:14 pm

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It seems Biden managed to Crush Trump more than a lot of people think when you look at the Margin shifts, and it shows issues for the GOP going forward.

Trump has definitely CULTivated a following, and it is hard to see how the Republicans will be able to go forward with Trump yearning for a 2024 run, while working on setting his legacy on fire the last 50 days.

Dunno about the "issues" for Republicans overall, I think the main and only issue they had this election was and is Trump. The down ballot shows there is still support on the Republican side.

Trump is the issue (as you note). The Republicans are screwed if they cannot get their act together and actively speak AGAINST Trump. His followers, the cult of Trump, "win at all costs, punish any doubters" do as he says and if you don;t please them, bow before them they will not only not support you, they (and he) will attack you and you will lose. This is a huge cross to bear for the Republicans, an albatross around their neck for any less fanatic, more centrist members.

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Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:40 pm

Tugger wrote:
casinterest wrote:
It seems Biden managed to Crush Trump more than a lot of people think when you look at the Margin shifts, and it shows issues for the GOP going forward.

Trump has definitely CULTivated a following, and it is hard to see how the Republicans will be able to go forward with Trump yearning for a 2024 run, while working on setting his legacy on fire the last 50 days.

Dunno about the "issues" for Republicans overall, I think the main and only issue they had this election was and is Trump. The down ballot shows there is still support on the Republican side.

Trump is the issue (as you note). The Republicans are screwed if they cannot get their act together and actively speak AGAINST Trump. His followers, the cult of Trump, "win at all costs, punish any doubters" do as he says and if you don;t please them, bow before them they will not only not support you, they (and he) will attack you and you will lose. This is a huge cross to bear for the Republicans, an albatross around their neck for any less fanatic, more centrist members.

Tugg


The scary thing is even with obvious statements of guilt - such as if rumored pardons for Trump kids come to fruition - very little will change amongst the cult. Newsmax and OAN are surging by hundreds of percent in viewership due to the Fox election backlash. These people want to be lied to, plain and simple.
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:47 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
Tugger wrote:
casinterest wrote:
It seems Biden managed to Crush Trump more than a lot of people think when you look at the Margin shifts, and it shows issues for the GOP going forward.

Trump has definitely CULTivated a following, and it is hard to see how the Republicans will be able to go forward with Trump yearning for a 2024 run, while working on setting his legacy on fire the last 50 days.

Dunno about the "issues" for Republicans overall, I think the main and only issue they had this election was and is Trump. The down ballot shows there is still support on the Republican side.

Trump is the issue (as you note). The Republicans are screwed if they cannot get their act together and actively speak AGAINST Trump. His followers, the cult of Trump, "win at all costs, punish any doubters" do as he says and if you don;t please them, bow before them they will not only not support you, they (and he) will attack you and you will lose. This is a huge cross to bear for the Republicans, an albatross around their neck for any less fanatic, more centrist members.

Tugg


The scary thing is even with obvious statements of guilt - such as if rumored pardons for Trump kids come to fruition - very little will change amongst the cult. Newsmax and OAN are surging by hundreds of percent in viewership due to the Fox election backlash. These people want to be lied to, plain and simple.



The issues are there, but I am optimistic about the democratic shift.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit- ... al-results

The above exit poll shows that Trump continues to excel with white people that didn't go to college, and are protestant, and that demographic continues to shrink going forward. This is a demographic that is easily scared, and runs to Fox News,Newsmax.OANN, Parlar to have an echo chamber.

Going forward, I think the trend is clear that the GOP is in trouble without some serious changes in platform and messaging.
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Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:55 pm

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alfa164 wrote:
cpd wrote:
It would be interesting to know who is involved, but that's all masked out.

I'm betting the name "Rudy" shows up in some of that redacted territory. Wanna bet?
;)


News Limited reckons it's his kids:
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 264df40c7b


That might explain why he was asking about the options for pardoning his family members - although the tax investigations hanging over their enterprise might also be the driving force.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/p ... ardon.html
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:18 am

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Going forward, I think the trend is clear that the GOP is in trouble without some serious changes in platform and messaging.


This simply cannot happen while Trump remains in the picture, which he has every intention to do since popularity in any way or form is the only thing he craves, and he'll never change his tune.
They'll either turn their backs on him and lose a large part of the GOP base, dividing the right and abandoning any hope to remain in power or keep their heads far up his majesty's derriere to collect the MAGA votes... They've painted themselves into a corner.

In other news, the popular vote difference is now approaching 7 million.
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:28 am

More cheating from the GOP supporters.


PAULDING COUNTY, Ga. — A Florida attorney is at the center of a new state investigation after elections officials say he recently attempted to register to vote in Georgia and
instructed other Florida Republicans on how to do it .

Bill Price is seen in a now-deleted Facebook Live video, speaking to the Bay County GOP members in Florida on Nov. 7th. It was about half an hour after
the election was called for the Joe Biden-Kamala Harris ticket.

“We absolutely have to hold the Senate and we have to start fighting back, and we have to do whatever it takes,” Price said in the video. “And if that means changing your address
for the next two months, so be it. I’m doing that. I’m moving to Georgia and I’m gonna fight and I want you all to fight with me.”


The attorney then continues to advice on how to "move" to Georgia and when asked about it by media the attorney claims to have been joking. However Channel 2 looked it up
and the attorney had registered to vote in Georgia the day after he made the speech.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/flo ... KVMO5ESJQ/
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:25 am

Amazing - people are still supporting the Clown Coup? When is Hugo Chavez' poltergeist going to hold a press conference?

apodino wrote:
I suspect it will be more of the same from Biden.


Well he was pretty transparent in saying that nothing fundamentally will change [from the Obama years] and primary voters seemed happy enough with that.

Virtual737 wrote:
It's pure comedy and, if it wasn't so bloody dangerous, I'd not want it to stop.

:checkmark:

astuteman wrote:
"Chris Christie calls Trump’s legal team a ‘national embarrassment’"


Clearly Chris Christie is part of the deep state. Unrelated - how the hell did he survive COVID19?
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:51 am

zkojq wrote:
Amazing - people are still supporting the Clown Coup?


not just support him, they believe Trump over his own Lawyers .... you can quote Trump lawyers court statements, claiming there was no widespread fraud and the affidavits they wave in front of Fox, OAN and Newsmax Cameras are made up and spam..... nope, there still is overwhelming evidence of voter fraud......

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:07 pm

In the never ending nightmare of Trump lead legal challenges. Let's look at the latest main witness for voter fraud in Michigan. With all the racist undertones.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/ ... 2193317888
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:10 pm

[url][/url]
casinterest wrote:
In the never ending nightmare of Trump lead legal challenges. Let's look at the latest main witness for voter fraud in Michigan. With all the racist undertones.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/ ... 2193317888

The farcical challenges aren't going to stop until either he actually gets his chance at SCOTUS, or it's Inauguration Day. They're there to drum up whatever cash they can scrounge, and more importantly to keep him in the headlines to nurse his tender bruised ego.
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:22 pm

luckyone wrote:
[url][/url]
casinterest wrote:
In the never ending nightmare of Trump lead legal challenges. Let's look at the latest main witness for voter fraud in Michigan. With all the racist undertones.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/ ... 2193317888

The farcical challenges aren't going to stop until either he actually gets his chance at SCOTUS, or it's Inauguration Day. They're there to drum up whatever cash they can scrounge, and more importantly to keep him in the headlines to nurse his tender bruised ego.


It's getting so bad hat former presidents are actually having to handle real work where Trump has failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/politics ... index.html
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp9HeN8qlHw

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:29 pm

casinterest wrote:
luckyone wrote:
[url][/url]
casinterest wrote:
In the never ending nightmare of Trump lead legal challenges. Let's look at the latest main witness for voter fraud in Michigan. With all the racist undertones.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/ ... 2193317888

The farcical challenges aren't going to stop until either he actually gets his chance at SCOTUS, or it's Inauguration Day. They're there to drum up whatever cash they can scrounge, and more importantly to keep him in the headlines to nurse his tender bruised ego.


It's getting so bad hat former presidents are actually having to handle real work where Trump has failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/politics ... index.html

Unfortunately this is not a surprise. Many of us identified this as the single reason that Trump should not be POTUS -- he is supremely self-indulgent, which makes him reckless. Anyone who grew up with a narcissist in their family isn't surprised by this behavior.
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 pm

Just read the article on CNN;

"If you can loot businesses, burn down buildings, engage in protest, you can also go to a Christmas party, you can celebrate the holiday of Christmas and you can do it responsibly,"

I was not aware that looting and burning down buildings WAS allowed. In that case, what point is she making.
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:42 pm

luckyone wrote:
casinterest wrote:
luckyone wrote:
[url][/url]
The farcical challenges aren't going to stop until either he actually gets his chance at SCOTUS, or it's Inauguration Day. They're there to drum up whatever cash they can scrounge, and more importantly to keep him in the headlines to nurse his tender bruised ego.


It's getting so bad hat former presidents are actually having to handle real work where Trump has failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/politics ... index.html

Unfortunately this is not a surprise. Many of us identified this as the single reason that Trump should not be POTUS -- he is supremely self-indulgent, which makes him reckless. Anyone who grew up with a narcissist in their family isn't surprised by this behavior.

Not surprised by the behavior at all. What is surprising is how many people fall into the cult that is enabling him.

bennett123 wrote:
I was not aware that looting and burning down buildings WAS allowed. In that case, what point is she making.


Cult's do not reason,. she is just trying to make everyone forget about a really deadly disease to form a more perfect system for her narcissistic boss.
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Re: Official US Election thread

Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:31 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
More cheating from the GOP supporters.


PAULDING COUNTY, Ga. — A Florida attorney is at the center of a new state investigation after elections officials say he recently attempted to register to vote in Georgia and
instructed other Florida Republicans on how to do it .

Bill Price is seen in a now-deleted Facebook Live video, speaking to the Bay County GOP members in Florida on Nov. 7th. It was about half an hour after
the election was called for the Joe Biden-Kamala Harris ticket.

“We absolutely have to hold the Senate and we have to start fighting back, and we have to do whatever it takes,” Price said in the video. “And if that means changing your address
for the next two months, so be it. I’m doing that. I’m moving to Georgia and I’m gonna fight and I want you all to fight with me.”


The attorney then continues to advice on how to "move" to Georgia and when asked about it by media the attorney claims to have been joking. However Channel 2 looked it up
and the attorney had registered to vote in Georgia the day after he made the speech.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/flo ... KVMO5ESJQ/


This is so bad on so many levels. Secretary Raffensperger (who is now under police protection BTW due to threats) no doubt has to review this, but he has to speak softly and carry a "small stick" to curry the Republicans or else he gets "canceled" again by Trump.
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:29 pm

One of Team Trump's star witnesses in Michigan. Ok, first prize for guessing which substance she's high on. Any guesses?

https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/ ... 78080?s=08
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:01 pm

bgm wrote:
One of Team Trump's star witnesses in Michigan. Ok, first prize for guessing which substance she's high on. Any guesses?

https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/ ... 78080?s=08


She's Karentastic! Did she demand to speak to the manager?
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Re: Official US Election thread

Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:25 pm

bgm wrote:
One of Team Trump's star witnesses in Michigan. Ok, first prize for guessing which substance she's high on. Any guesses?

https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/ ... 78080?s=08

Boxed wine :smile:
 
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Re: Official US Election thread

Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:41 pm

She sounds like a Sarah Palin imitator. All in all just another one of the people that have been paraded as part of the spectacle. It's always possible that one of them will say something that will stick, but the number of clowns casts suggests that the odds aren't great.

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