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rfields5421 wrote:But that seems to change by the minute.
rfields5421 wrote:Okay, I see that from Fox News which has called ME2 for Biden.
Strange that Fox is projecting a more likely win than ABC/ CBS/ CNN. But that seems to change by the minute.
winginit wrote:
Sorry for your loss.
NIKV69 wrote:winginit wrote:
Sorry for your loss.
I didn't lose anything. I have a great job till retirement. If Biden wins the only people that lose are the younger people working or looking for work. You wanted Socialism well be careful what you wish for you are going to get it.
NIKV69 wrote:You wanted Socialism well be careful what you wish for you are going to get it.
EA CO AS wrote:That’s when, sometime between then and January 20th, the mainstream media will start slowly and deliberately taking a keen interest in that laptop Hunter forgot to pick up.
I suspect the goal will be for Act III, on or shortly after January 20th, for Biden to step aside “for the good of the nation and his family” and the media’s probe of the laptop will result in ushering in President Kamala Harris.
NIKV69 wrote:You wanted Socialism well be careful what you wish for you are going to get it.
EA CO AS wrote:the mainstream media will start slowly and deliberately taking a keen interest in that laptop Hunter forgot to pick up. .
EA CO AS wrote:Disappointed, to be sure, but if it’s the will of the people, so be it.
This is just Act I, however.
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ArcticSEA wrote:Biden campaign expected to make victory speech today, per campaign manager. They see a clear path to 270 by the end of the day, and I agree. They sit at 238. WI+MI+NV puts them over the finish line.
Aaron747 wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:Well, it seems things are becoming tighter, and a Biden win is now apparently more likely according to betting markets.
Now the question will be, how is Biden going to do with a Republican controlled senate and his ambitious agenda? I guess he will have to resort to the pen, and the Supreme court will keep a check on that.
As for the House, interesting how Republicans appeared to gain seats, when it was expected the opposite. Its going to be tough in 2022 when the electorate votes for the contrary party in congress so the House can become Republican in 2022.
Sorry Democrats, no GND, no court packing... no tax increases etc. Its going to be a caretaker government for 4 years if Biden wins.
So, we are setting us up for 2024 where another Republican can take the WH. I am willing to live with this.
One wonders where this kind of analysis comes from. Biden's statements indicate he wants to work across the aisle. Have you reserved the same criticism for the current WH?
Trump is the biggest user of the pen since Clinton. GWB - 291 in 8 years. BHO - 276 in 8 years. DJT? 192 in 3.8 years.
As for 2022 and 2024, the GOP only performed well in this cycle via a massive rural turnout drive. They are getting killed in the suburbs with each successive election - 2016 wasn't great, 2018 was worse, the results from this cycle are ostensibly worse for them than 2018.
ArcticSEA wrote:Biden campaign expected to make victory speech today, per campaign manager. They see a clear path to 270 by the end of the day, and I agree. They sit at 238. WI+MI+NV puts them over the finish line.
NIKV69 wrote:
You wanted Socialism well be careful what you wish for you are going to get it.
AirWorthy99 wrote:It wasn't Trump who had huge ambitions and goals as Biden and the Democrats.
AirWorthy99 wrote:ArcticSEA wrote:Biden campaign expected to make victory speech today, per campaign manager. They see a clear path to 270 by the end of the day, and I agree. They sit at 238. WI+MI+NV puts them over the finish line.
NV won't be called till tomorrow, when they finish counting. So they will do this prematurely.
AirWorthy99 wrote:NV won't be called till tomorrow, when they finish counting. So they will do this prematurely.
AirWorthy99 wrote:It wasn't Trump who had huge ambitions and goals as Biden and the Democrats. You all were counting on getting the senate for that, now that is all gone. Thankfully.
As for this cycle, down-vote the GOP did much better than what was expected, keeping the senate and even gaining some seats from Pelosi. And in 2022 is going to be better if Biden win.
So 4 years of Biden in the WH not getting anything of what they promised their base, is going to be a turn out killer in 2022 and 2024 for Democrats.
Bottom line, not happy of the possibility of losing the WH, but I am happy we are keeping the Senate to keep the radicals in check. And we got ACB in there to keep the judiciary as a check on the executive whilst they abuse of the pen.
ArcticSEA wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:NV won't be called till tomorrow, when they finish counting. So they will do this prematurely.
Clark and Washoe are not going for Trump. NV is in the bag for Biden.
(Biden won Arizona! Hello...anyone home?)
flipdewaf wrote:winginit wrote:Joe Biden has officially received more votes for President of the United States than any candidate in history.
His leads in Wisconsin and Michigan also now exceed Trump’s margins of victory in 2016.PPVRA wrote:If I’m following the data right, Michigan’s 11th district will either crown Trump or this thing might go to the House.
It would appear you are not following the data right. There is no longer any scenario where the election is a tie and thus goes to the house if that’s what you’re implying.
Wisconsin and Michigan will be called within the next couple of hours. They will both be called for Joe Biden, effectively ending the election under the assumption that Biden wins Nevada, which he will.
I hope Biden announces that he has the most bigly win in history!
EA CO AS wrote:ArcticSEA wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:NV won't be called till tomorrow, when they finish counting. So they will do this prematurely.
Clark and Washoe are not going for Trump. NV is in the bag for Biden.
(Biden won Arizona! Hello...anyone home?)
AZ still has 400K ballots to count.
EA CO AS wrote:AZ still has 400K ballots to count.
EA CO AS wrote:ArcticSEA wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:NV won't be called till tomorrow, when they finish counting. So they will do this prematurely.
Clark and Washoe are not going for Trump. NV is in the bag for Biden.
(Biden won Arizona! Hello...anyone home?)
AZ still has 400K ballots to count.
Tugger wrote:Foxnews just went blue for WI. Based on their projections, Biden is the likely victor. Votes still being counted though.
If they are right, I do predict Trump will be a very sore loser.
Tugg
Tugger wrote:Really to me, the big story will be the results of the remaining one million plus ballots in Pennsylvania.
Tugg
Tugger wrote:Really to me, the big story will be the results of the remaining one million plus ballots in Pennsylvania.
Tugg
ArcticSEA wrote:Tugger wrote:Really to me, the big story will be the results of the remaining one million plus ballots in Pennsylvania.
Tugg
Yes, but hopefully PA won't be "needed" to finish Trump off.
Aaron747 wrote:Tugger wrote:Foxnews just went blue for WI. Based on their projections, Biden is the likely victor. Votes still being counted though.
If they are right, I do predict Trump will be a very sore loser.
Tugg
He's already losing his shit on Twitter - two tweets with warnings on them in the last 45 minutes.
AirWorthy99 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:Tugger wrote:Foxnews just went blue for WI. Based on their projections, Biden is the likely victor. Votes still being counted though.
If they are right, I do predict Trump will be a very sore loser.
Tugg
He's already losing his shit on Twitter - two tweets with warnings on them in the last 45 minutes.
If I were him I fight for these elections which are very tight. NV is not a done deal and AZ still has too many votes out there.
Pollsters and the MSM for weeks had declared Biden the winner, why should we trust them now?
I think is not over yet.
AirWorthy99 wrote:Pollsters and the MSM for weeks had declared Biden the winner, why should we trust them now?
AirWorthy99 wrote:I think is not over yet.
Lilienthal wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
You wanted Socialism well be careful what you wish for you are going to get it.
Nothing about Biden is "socialist" or promotes "socialism". The affordable care act isn't socialism. Higher tax rates for the rich aren't socialism. environmental protection isn't socialism...
You guys through the word "socialism" around like candy, without having the slightest clue about what it actually means.
Tugger wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:Pollsters and the MSM for weeks had declared Biden the winner, why should we trust them now?
I am referring to FoxNews and what they are showing and projecting. Do you trust FoxNews? I am not saying anything beyond what is being presented as possibilities.AirWorthy99 wrote:I think is not over yet.
Correct, it is not over yet. Ballots still being counted.
Tugg
AirWorthy99 wrote:AZ Is not done yet, in all honesty I couldnt comprehend Trump losing this so early on.
LH658 wrote:WI, MI, NV if Bidens wins them, will win the electoral race. Trump can't win winning the remaining rest of the states. Though WI is neck and neck.
ArcticSEA wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:AZ Is not done yet, in all honesty I couldnt comprehend Trump losing this so early on.
93,509 of them?
AirWorthy99 wrote:ArcticSEA wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:AZ Is not done yet, in all honesty I couldnt comprehend Trump losing this so early on.
93,509 of them?
NBC CNN none have called it for Biden yet.
Trump team might know why, and Fox might be wrong.
If Trump gets AZ or even NV, MI and WI are not needed
winginit wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:ArcticSEA wrote:93,509 of them?
NBC CNN none have called it for Biden yet.
Trump team might know why, and Fox might be wrong.
If Trump gets AZ or even NV, MI and WI are not needed
You’re leaving out the very large caveat that for MI or WI not to matter Trump would have to win Pennsylvania.
AirWorthy99 wrote:winginit wrote:AirWorthy99 wrote:
NBC CNN none have called it for Biden yet.
Trump team might know why, and Fox might be wrong.
If Trump gets AZ or even NV, MI and WI are not needed
You’re leaving out the very large caveat that for MI or WI not to matter Trump would have to win Pennsylvania.
Yep, where he is ahead currently.
AirWorthy99 wrote:Pollsters and the MSM for weeks had declared Biden the winner, why should we trust them now?
I think is not over yet.