BaconButty wrote:AirbusCheerlead wrote:lightsaber wrote:I'm just amazed only 32 in Britain were vaccinated after having both doses (either Pfizer or Astrazenica) and waiting 3 weeks (after 2nd jab):
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/e ... t-23952839
All the discussion on risks is orders of magnitude off.
Hi Lightsaber,
Interesting article from the Guardian about the same topic (the article also has a link to the published paper).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... y-positive
While the numbers are still very good, reality is a little worse. And that exactly is the problem with newspapers like Telegraph, Mirror and the like. While the numbers are correct, they put them out of context and make it harder for the reader to see the full picture. Nevertheless the core message of those articles is still true: the study is really encouraging and shows the massive impact of vaccines.
The study has data has for 74'405 hospitalisation but those happend between September and March (2nd wave). If one considers only data from 8 December (first jab) the number is reduced to 42'788 hospitalisations. Of those 1802 had a vaccine and only 32 were admitted three weeks or more after having a first shot (my numbers are not fully exact either since some are from the Guardian article and others from the study)
Between 8 December and 28 February 208'145 were hospitalised or about 5 times more than the data available for the study.
Best regards and stay safe,
Jonas
I read that, and I thought it was pretty churlish by the Guardian. They could have pointed out that as of 12 Feb (3 weeks earlier, the latest someone could contribute to the "32") there were 14.5m first doses given and only half a million second doses. And it covers our 3rd wave which is really December through February - by 5th March hospitalizations were down to early October levels.
So even 150 out of 200,000 hospitalizations is fantastic, considering the large number of partially vaccinated people. That's 21% of the whole population, not just adults. So the expected figure would have been 40,000 or so! It also vindicates the long gap between doses.
Hi BaconButty,
I fully agree with your conclusion (hence I put in bold: "the study is really encouraging and shows the massive impact of vaccines"). But I would criticise both the Guardian and Mirror since they failed to give all the numbers and allow the reader to get the full picture.
As you know neither gave the number of hospitalizations during the period considered. Hence I looked it up to show that the study had access to huge data (over 20% of all hospitalizations) . You also added a good point about the number of vaccinated.
Best regards and stay safe,
Jonas