CitizenJustin wrote:Redd wrote:Tiredofhumanity wrote:If you are a member of the LGBT community and are thinking about travelling to Italy if/when this pandemic gets to a reasonable level of control, consider the following:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... law-debate
Advice: if you are a foreigner fall under the LGBT umbrella, do not give ANY Italian a penny.
To EU users: if you criticise the US as being controlled by religion, look in your own backyard.
Italy legalized same sex unions, you can't really get more LGBT friendly than that. What they don't want to do is create anti-hate laws open to interpretation that can limit free speech.
It's a CRAZY proposed law that would also criminalize misogyny. How on God's green earth do you define misogyny in today's femino-centric and anti-white-straight-male world? That would literally make it illegal to make a joke with a female being the butt of that joke, jail for a joke. Hell, you can go to jail for questioning any feminist narrative, as that would be considered misogynistic by the latest wave feminist. The proposed law is anti-free speech, vague, open to interpretation and an extension of a law that already protects people more than adequately. This new proposal is being pushed by the fringe left and disguised as promoting 'tolerance' while all the while behaving fascistIf approved, the new law would be an extension of an existing law that punishes racist violence, hatred and discrimination. In addition, it would criminalize misogyny.
You need to promote awareness to solve hate towards the LGBT.
As for the USA, please, that gate has swung too far. It's now the norm for children who aren't old enough to make a proper decision regarding their diet because their brains are nowhere near developed enough to decide that they are trans and undergo hormonal treatments that are irreversible. Children as young as 7!!! This is nothing short of medical experimentation and a crime against humanity. Not to mention the social and legal acceptation of hundreds made up genders, and accepting this as normal instead of offering psychological treatment for the mentally insane. The USA is an example of what happens when people go too far.
This isn’t some new phenomenon. Issues of gender identity and those who do not conform to one or the other has been documented for thousands of years across cultures separated by vast oceans. Some cultures were more accepting than we are today. Since this has been documented for thousands of years, it seems to me that it’s not uncommon and there’s a more complex explanation than just writing them off as mentally ill, which is what you’re doing. Some scientists have theorized that effeminacy in men could be an evolutionary trait to counteract male aggression. Whatever it is, it’s likely more complicated than what you’re turning it into.
I know several trans women and they’re perfectly normal, productive, functioning people. They’re happy, they’re not depressed or mentally ill. You’ve probably spoken to several throughout your life without even knowing. You don’t get to just tell someone they’re sick because you disagree with their lifestyle. You’re not qualified to diagnose mental disorders. You don’t understand them, therefore you conclude that they must be mentally ill. This is ignorant and simplistic. You’re also picking out the most extreme examples to make your case.
No one thinks there’s hundreds of genders either. You’re exaggerating, which is typical when people make this argument. It’s akin to the gay marriage battle when people said next they’ll legalize marrying animals. The slippery slope argument. What people identify as has zero impact on your life, so I fail to see why you’re so upset. Worry about yourself, not someone else’s life and identity. There’s always someone trying to impose and force their will onto others and it’s really getting old. It comes down to getting the hell out of people’s lives and minding your own business. That’s what I suggest you do.
Trans people are people who transition, no issues and no problems with that, I'm 100% for gay rights.
The issues I brought up, which you aren't acknowledging are:
- Criminalizing misogyny - try to define that
- Allowing transitioning in minors and many instances of children as young as 6 or 7 being given irreversible hormone therapy
- There are hundreds of genders, thousands actually. Legally recognized, that number is 64 in Canada. All of them a flight of fancy, figment of the imagination, a mental disorder called gender dysphoria or just kids going along with this new trend of identifying as something. In the UK teaching kids about these made up absurd genders is part of the elementary school curriculum.