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Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:32 am

Ok I am a soccer fan so the World Cup is the greatest thing ever. I love when the teams sing the anthems before the game. I hate to say but I find the the US doesn't seem to have the excitement amongst the team when their song is played as other countries. I also really like a lot of other country's anthems. So you can't use your own but rank in order the top 4 favorite countries' anthems you like.

Mine

1. Brazil - Personally this is the best, such patriotic lyrics and when they sing it they do it so sincerely!

2. Italia - Needs no explanation. I loved when Buffon sang it with such patriotism

3. France - Flows so great and when the French woman soccer team sings it they do it so well.

4. Japan - when it's played it's so strong.
 
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Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:53 am

Hmmm, would be difficult for me to rank and also depends on the particular performance and/or arrangement. I do really like the Star Spangled Banner when done well (Whitney Houston's performance was tops), but also really like:
- La Marseillaise (France)
- O Canada
- Marcia Real (Spain)
- Kong Kristian (royal anthem of Denmark)
- Advance Australia Fair

Honorable mentions would be Russia (current one and God Save the Tsar are both solid) and Poland.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:22 am

This is interesting. Regarding the US...the whole attitude of athletes toward the US National Anthem could house its own thread. That being said, I have a few favorites.

- O Canada
- God Save the Queen
- March of the Volunteers (China)
- Il Canto Degli Itaiani
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:11 am

I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:17 am

France, Germany and the USA stand out.

Have to say that God save the Queen does not figure.

Perhaps we should have Rule Britannia or even Jerusalem.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:14 pm

flyguy89 wrote:
Hmmm, would be difficult for me to rank and also depends on the particular performance and/or arrangement. I do really like the Star Spangled Banner when done well (Whitney Houston's performance was tops), but also really like:
- La Marseillaise (France)
- O Canada
- Marcia Real (Spain)
- Kong Kristian (royal anthem of Denmark)
- Advance Australia Fair

Honorable mentions would be Russia (current one and God Save the Tsar are both solid) and Poland.



Especially since the Spanish anthem has no words
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:14 pm

bennett123 wrote:
France, Germany and the USA stand out.

Have to say that God save the Queen does not figure.

Perhaps we should have Rule Britannia or even Jerusalem.


More like Rue Britannia...

or maybe this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU04RNVAO9M

And if the union breaks up perhaps this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6nPu-1auE

The best anthem ever was the Soviet Union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHomETco0MI
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:25 pm

Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


My favourite, too. Have to put up with the dreariest tune here in England.

bennett123 wrote:
Perhaps we should have Rule Britannia or even Jerusalem.


Or 'Land of hope and glory'
 
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Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:44 pm

art wrote:
Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


My favourite, too. Have to put up with the dreariest tune here in England.

bennett123 wrote:
Perhaps we should have Rule Britannia or even Jerusalem.


Or 'Land of hope and glory'


Land of hopeless Tories....

The problem with all the alternative suggestions for the UK is that most of them are associated in some form with England.. Need something that includes Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland..
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:37 pm

My favourites are France, Italy and Russia.

I always hear people say how much they love O Canada. As a Canadian, I wouldn't say I dislike it, however I don't really understand why others like it so much. Perhaps it's just cause I hear it all the time?
 
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Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:51 pm

The Dutch national anthem is the worst. They sing about "we are Germans"... :roll:
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:13 pm

The problem for some countries is (like the US) that they sing the national anthem all the time, so no special feeling when the national team plays.
 
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Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:31 pm

I've found the South African national anthem fascinating. They combined two hymns, the Xhosa "Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika", and rewrote some of the verses in two of South Africa's official languages Zulu and Sesotho. Then at the end, they change keys and tack on a few verses of the Afrikaans "Die Stem van Suid-Afrika" (which was the sole national anthem prior from 1957 to 1994), which is also partly translated into English. Truly brilliant. Trevor Noah also does a good bit about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ll5oE9kwg

"La Marseillaise," as others have mentioned, is impressive for all it's Gallic and revolutionary bombast. When I listen to it, it's incredibly stirring. Perhaps, as an American, I identify with some of the revolutionary themes in it. Listen to the 1989 recording of Mireille Mathieu -- the arrangement just overwhelms you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxOl1EraXA

As for "The Star Spangled Banner," I agree, it's performed too often, and frequently badly. Part of that is it is a very difficult song to sing, but we still invite mediocre pop singers to try their hand at it.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:01 pm

luckyone wrote:
As for "The Star Spangled Banner," I agree, it's performed too often, and frequently badly. Part of that is it is a very difficult song to sing, but we still invite mediocre pop singers to try their hand at it.


Me thinks that the US Anthem is the pinnacle of jingoism. Nothing to mention the laughable "Land of The Free". Think about that next time you are groped in the TSA line at the airport.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:25 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
luckyone wrote:
As for "The Star Spangled Banner," I agree, it's performed too often, and frequently badly. Part of that is it is a very difficult song to sing, but we still invite mediocre pop singers to try their hand at it.


Me thinks that the US Anthem is the pinnacle of jingoism. Nothing to mention the laughable "Land of The Free". Think about that next time you are groped in the TSA line at the airport.


Well its a free groping.. Anyway most anthems are just either self promotion or toadying.
 
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Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:40 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
luckyone wrote:
As for "The Star Spangled Banner," I agree, it's performed too often, and frequently badly. Part of that is it is a very difficult song to sing, but we still invite mediocre pop singers to try their hand at it.


Me thinks that the US Anthem is the pinnacle of jingoism. Nothing to mention the laughable "Land of The Free". Think about that next time you are groped in the TSA line at the airport.

I don't know if I could call it the pinnacle. It could certainly be up there. "Il Canto degli Italiani" and "Deutschlandlied," the Russian national anthem, etc etc are also in that category.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:53 pm

Whilst the German unification was undoubtedly long over due and brought great progress, freedom and democracy to a once oppressed part of the world, it sadly also spelled the end for what is, without a shadow of doubt, the most beautiful national anthem ever; Auferstanden aus Ruinen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7zGFZNinsk

As a close second, my money is on the Russian national anthem which, contrary to the one from the DDR, survived the fall of communism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzZqdEdZGG8
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:43 pm

Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


Seconded...there is no other anthem so sweeping and awe inspiring.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:46 pm

Agreed, although I do think the Soviet Anthem places number 1 with a solid margin. The DDR one, although it beats most akward, military march-ish western anthems by a solid margin, lacks a bit of tonal tension and drama, it is a bit jingly with harmonic changes aking to elevator-music or film music taken from the opening of a movie, before the tutti 2nd degree mediant major chord movements sets in.
Fitting for the soviet unions little brother, perhaps.

As for my own country’s anthem, it shares the first seven notes(!) with a christmas song, and even if the rest is quite nice, it never fully recovers.


B777LRF wrote:
Whilst the German unification was undoubtedly long over due and brought great progress, freedom and democracy to a once oppressed part of the world, it sadly also spelled the end for what is, without a shadow of doubt, the most beautiful national anthem ever; Auferstanden aus Ruinen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7zGFZNinsk

As a close second, my money is on the Russian national anthem which, contrary to the one from the DDR, survived the fall of communism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzZqdEdZGG8
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:27 pm

My votes:
France
Canada
Russia
UK
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:01 pm

B777LRF wrote:
Whilst the German unification was undoubtedly long over due and brought great progress, freedom and democracy to a once oppressed part of the world, it sadly also spelled the end for what is, without a shadow of doubt, the most beautiful national anthem ever; Auferstanden aus Ruinen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7zGFZNinsk


Yes, that sounds good.


B777LRF wrote:
As a close second, my money is on the Russian national anthem which, contrary to the one from the DDR, survived the fall of communism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzZqdEdZGG8


It only sort of did. Not for the first time, they wound up changing the words.

Dieuwer wrote:
luckyone wrote:
As for "The Star Spangled Banner," I agree, it's performed too often, and frequently badly. Part of that is it is a very difficult song to sing, but we still invite mediocre pop singers to try their hand at it.


Me thinks that the US Anthem is the pinnacle of jingoism. Nothing to mention the laughable "Land of The Free". Think about that next time you are groped in the TSA line at the airport.


More and more, it really does sound like the beginning of a movie about a dystopia...



Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


It is certainly the best one out there, yes.

If Rule Britannia were an anthem, it would have strong competition there. But, it is not...
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:06 pm

art

Land of hope and glory would be fine.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:37 am

The Norway one. I also like the Russian, British and French.

The Norway one has 8 verses, but usually we only sing verse 1, 7 and 8

Ja vi elsker / Yes, we love this country

In Norwegian:

Ja, vi elsker dette landet,
som det stiger frem,
furet, værbitt over vannet,
med de tusen hjem, —
elsker, elsker det og tenker
på vår far og mor
og den saganatt som senker
drømmer på vår jord.


Dette landet Harald berget
med sin kjemperad,
dette landet Håkon verget,
medens Øyvind kvad;
Olav på det landet malet
korset med sitt blod,
fra dets høye Sverre talet
Roma midt imot.

Bønder sine økser brynte
hvor en hær dro frem;
Tordenskjold langs kysten lynte,
så den lystes hjem.
Kvinner selv stod opp og strede
som de vare menn;
andre kunne bare grede,
men det kom igjen!

Visstnok var vi ikke mange,
men vi strakk dog til,
da vi prøvdes noen gange,
og det stod på spill;
ti vi heller landet brente
enn det kom til fall;
husker bare hva som hendte
ned på Fredrikshald!

Hårde tider har vi døyet,
ble til sist forstøtt;
men i verste nød blåøyet
frihet ble oss født.
Det gav faderkraft å bære
hungersnød og krig,
det gav døden selv sin ære —
og det gav forlik.

Fienden sitt våpen kastet,
opp visiret fór,
vi med undren mot ham hastet,
ti han var vår bror.
Drevne frem på stand av skammen,
gikk vi søderpå;
nå står vi tre brødre sammen,
og skal sådan stå!

Norske mann i hus og hytte,
takk din store Gud!
Landet ville han beskytte,
skjønt det mørkt så ut.
Alt, hva fedrene har kjempet,
mødrene har grett,
har den Herre stille lempet,
så vi vant vår rett.


Ja, vi elsker dette landet,
som det stiger frem,
furet, værbitt over vannet,
med de tusen hjem.
Og som fedres kamp har hevet
det av nød til seir,
også vi, når det blir krevet,
for dets fred slår leir.



In English

Yes, we love this country
as it rises forth,
rugged, weathered, over the water,
with the thousands of homes, —
love, love it and think
of our father and mother
and the saga-night that lays
dreams upon our earth.


This country Harald united
with his army of heroes,
this country Håkon protected
whilst Øyvind sung;
upon the country Olav painted
with his blood the cross,
from its heights Sverre spoke
up against Rome.

Farmers their axes sharpened
wherever an army advanced,
Tordenskjold along the coastline thundered
so that we could see it back home.
Even women stood up and fought
as if they were men;
others could only cry
but that soon would end!

Sure, we were not many
but we were enough,
when we were tested sometimes,
and it was at stake;
we would rather burn our land
than to declare defeat;
just remember what happened
down at Fredrikshald!

Hard times we have coped with,
were at last disowned;
but in the worst distress, blue-eyed
freedom was to us born.
It gave (us) father's strength to carry
famine and war,
it gave death itself its honour –
and it gave reconciliation.

The enemy threw away his weapon,
up the visor went,
we, in wonder, to him hastened,
because he was our brother.
Driven forth to a stand by shame
we went to the south;
now we three brothers stand united,
and shall stand like that!

Norwegian man in house and cabin,
thank your great God!
The country he wanted to protect,
although things looked dark.
All the fights fathers have fought,
and the mothers have wept,
the Lord has quietly moved
so we won our rights.


Yes, we love this country
as it rises forth,
rugged, weathered, above the sea,
with those thousand homes.
And as the fathers' struggle has raised
it from need to victory,
even we, when it is demanded,
for its peace will encamp (for defense).


* In each verse the last two lines are sung twice, and one or two words are repeated an extra time when the lines are sung the second time (for example "senker" in the first verse)

In Norwegian verse 1, 7 and 8 only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr3HJIp9cvY

In Norwegian ( long version ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVAbLAL2ao
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:29 am

Olddog wrote:
The problem for some countries is (like the US) that they sing the national anthem all the time, so no special feeling when the national team plays.


I disagree when you are away from the US representing in the world cup you have to have feeling. I remember Gattuso used to sing the Italian anthem with so much heart!

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


Seconded...there is no other anthem so sweeping and awe inspiring.


It's good but not the best.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:57 am

I'm not much a fan of Israeli politics. But listening to their anthem I can feel the sadness and longing for an own "house".
The strange part: one could nearly translate it for the Palestinians.
https://youtu.be/c_9N1ldPtQ8


By definition an anti-national anthem is "The Internationale".
It was written in the 19th century. Judging in hindsight is always wrong. Listening to it with a 19th century ear may explain why history had to be the way it was.
https://youtu.be/yAw0Ri4FSdM

Thinking of the emotions the Israeli anthem as well as "The Internationale" raises I wonder if I have a split personality.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:56 am

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flyguy89 wrote:
Hmmm, would be difficult for me to rank and also depends on the particular performance and/or arrangement. I do really like the Star Spangled Banner when done well (Whitney Houston's performance was tops), but also really like:
- La Marseillaise (France)
- O Canada
- Marcia Real (Spain)
- Kong Kristian (royal anthem of Denmark)
- Advance Australia Fair

Honorable mentions would be Russia (current one and God Save the Tsar are both solid) and Poland.


Especially since the Spanish anthem has no words

Unless you're a Francoist :duck:


bennett123 wrote:
Have to say that God save the Queen does not figure.

Aw I wouldn't count out God Save the Queen. Perhaps it's a "the grass is always greener on the other side" thing when it's your own anthem since you'll inevitably hear it more, but I have heard a couple arrangements of God Save the Queen that are indeed very stirring. And what could be more British than an anthem calling to "confound their politics" and "frustrate their knavish tricks?" :D
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:44 am

NIKV69 wrote:
Olddog wrote:
The problem for some countries is (like the US) that they sing the national anthem all the time, so no special feeling when the national team plays.


I disagree when you are away from the US representing in the world cup you have to have feeling. I remember Gattuso used to sing the Italian anthem with so much heart!

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


Seconded...there is no other anthem so sweeping and awe inspiring.


It's good but not the best.


Captain Marko Ramius: “Let them sing!”
 
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:55 am

Israel’s “Hatikvah/ Hope” always moves me.

Oh Canada
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:07 am

La Marseillaise (France) is a favourite of mine.

But I also remember the Italian anthem when Ferrari used to win in F1.

The mechanics would be extremely proudly singing that anthem, with Michael Schumacher or Rubens Barrichello encouraging them on.

The anthem of the Soviet Union is a very iconic one too.
 
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:55 am

I quite like the NZ anthem along with the haka
 
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:10 am

Nothing beats Flower of Scotland :D
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:46 am

Mortyman wrote:
The Norway one.
...
upon the country Olav painted
with his blood the cross,
...
Farmers their axes sharpened
wherever an army advanced,
...
Even women stood up and fought
as if they were men;
...
we would rather burn our land
than to declare defeat;
...
but in the worst distress, blue-eyed
freedom was to us born.
It gave (us) father's strength to carry
famine and war,
it gave death itself its honour –
and it gave reconciliation.

Is Marijuana already legalized in Norway?

The enemy threw away his weapon,
up the visor went,
we, in wonder, to him hastened,
because he was our brother.
Driven forth to a stand by shame
we went to the south;
now we three brothers stand united,
and shall stand like that!
...

Quite a dramatic change. Can you explain?
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:22 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Captain Marko Ramius: “Let them sing!”


After posting here Red October came to mind. Watched it again yesterday, great film...
 
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:26 am

NIKV69 wrote:
Olddog wrote:
The problem for some countries is (like the US) that they sing the national anthem all the time, so no special feeling when the national team plays.


I disagree when you are away from the US representing in the world cup you have to have feeling. I remember Gattuso used to sing the Italian anthem with so much heart!

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
I'm almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but for me it's the Russian anthem. When I hear it I feel like I want to learn Russian and move to Moscow.... :rotfl:


Seconded...there is no other anthem so sweeping and awe inspiring.


It's good but not the best.


The only thing better is The Hymn to Red October. ;)

https://youtu.be/MRG1UixHvos?t=81
 
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:47 am

Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Captain Marko Ramius: “Let them sing!”


After posting here Red October came to mind. Watched it again yesterday, great film...


Great OST and yes - the best Ryan film hands down. Watched it three times in 2020 myself.
 
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:23 pm

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The Dutch national anthem is the worst. They sing about "we are Germans"... :roll:


I am Wilhelm of Nassau, of German derivation. ( true: house of Nassau-Dillenburg, rather modern people at the time.)

compare to Norway when they coopted a french general to reign as king.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:51 pm

I thought Bernadotte went in Sweden ?
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:42 pm

I like the Italian anthem (and don't have Italian citizenship so that counts, although I could get it).

The USSR anthem errr Russian is also good (don't know what it's about, though).

Being French I think La Marseillaise does the job and is nice to hear, the lyrics are a bit bellicose though.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:37 pm

bennett123 wrote:
art

Land of hope and glory would be fine.


Ahem....(sorry about YT quality)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KNWdhVJq9k
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:41 pm

Airontario wrote:
My favourites are France, Italy and Russia.

I always hear people say how much they love O Canada. As a Canadian, I wouldn't say I dislike it, however I don't really understand why others like it so much. Perhaps it's just cause I hear it all the time?


As an American, I do love i when the Canadians shout out "True North" in the line, "The True North strong and free!"

I've heard it at Canucks and Flames games a few times, and last year when Winnipeg hosted an NFL preseason game, they all boomed TRUE NORTH and it was pretty damn cool.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:13 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
Olddog wrote:
The problem for some countries is (like the US) that they sing the national anthem all the time, so no special feeling when the national team plays.


I disagree when you are away from the US representing in the world cup you have to have feeling. I remember Gattuso used to sing the Italian anthem with so much heart!

Aaron747 wrote:

Seconded...there is no other anthem so sweeping and awe inspiring.


It's good but not the best.


Captain Marko Ramius: “Let them sing!”


Epic movie but this is the best rendition of the Russian Anthem LOL.

MSG for life!
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:19 pm

I'm English and hate God Save the Queen with a passion. Maybe because I associate it with a certain kind of Englishman.

Fortunately for Euro 2020^D1 you'll get the far more impressive anthems of our next door neighbours, Flower of Scotland and Mae Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau. The latter being my favourite, because it represents the kind of patriotism I prefer, the love of her poets, language, mountains, streams and valleys.

Still, who doesn't like La Marseillaise, however awful the words.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:19 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
The Dutch national anthem is the worst. They sing about "we are Germans"... :roll:

You missed the part about honoring the King of Spain. Or you have missed it completely and don’t have a clue about the origin of this anthem (16th century).
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:25 pm

Olddog wrote:
I thought Bernadotte went in Sweden ?


Whatever, I tend to mix that up. ( and he reigned both countries at the time.)
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:26 pm

marcelh wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
The Dutch national anthem is the worst. They sing about "we are Germans"... :roll:

You missed the part about honoring the King of Spain. Or you have missed it completely and don’t have a clue about the origin of this anthem (16th century).


Yes, there's the Spanish King in it too. Even more reason to replace this anthem with something new.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:42 pm

French anthem is from the french revolution, so even if some people would like to change some lyrics, there is a strong opposition to any change.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:14 pm

Olddog wrote:
French anthem is from the french revolution, so even if some people would like to change some lyrics, there is a strong opposition to any change.


Lots of lyrics from outspoken nationalistic times did not age well. There is a reason the German one is never presented fully.

IMHO the Dutch one touches much more on circumstantial history at the time of creation.
Requires some deeper knowledge. it is less about being out of taste.
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:42 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
marcelh wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
The Dutch national anthem is the worst. They sing about "we are Germans"... :roll:

You missed the part about honoring the King of Spain. Or you have missed it completely and don’t have a clue about the origin of this anthem (16th century).


Yes, there's the Spanish King in it too. Even more reason to replace this anthem with something new.


Only an update of the lyrics will do. Or even better: dump it in favor of the European anthem. It has no lyrics, so no singing about Germans or a Spanish king....
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:02 pm

marcelh wrote:
Or even better: dump it in favor of the European anthem. It has no lyrics, so no singing about Germans or a Spanish king....


No?
Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt,
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.


Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
mische seinen Jubel ein!
Ja - wer auch nur eine Seele
sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
weinend sich aus diesem Bund!


Freude heißt die starke Feder
in der ewigen Natur.
Freude, Freude treibt die Räder
in der großen Weltenuhr.
Blumen lockt sie aus den Keimen,
Sonnen aus dem Firmament,
Sphären rollt sie in den Räumen,
die des Sehers Rohr nicht kennt.


Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt,
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

ref: http://www.kms16.at/eu/europunion/hymeuropa.htm
with translation:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/europahy ... m-joy.html
 
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Re: Other country's anthems

Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:13 pm

WIederling wrote:
marcelh wrote:
Or even better: dump it in favor of the European anthem. It has no lyrics, so no singing about Germans or a Spanish king....


No?
Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt,
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.


Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
mische seinen Jubel ein!
Ja - wer auch nur eine Seele
sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
weinend sich aus diesem Bund!


Freude heißt die starke Feder
in der ewigen Natur.
Freude, Freude treibt die Räder
in der großen Weltenuhr.
Blumen lockt sie aus den Keimen,
Sonnen aus dem Firmament,
Sphären rollt sie in den Räumen,
die des Sehers Rohr nicht kennt.


Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt,
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

ref: http://www.kms16.at/eu/europunion/hymeuropa.htm
with translation:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/europahy ... m-joy.html


Officially, the European anthem has no lyrics.

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