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(Famous) Cities / Places / Sights News, Discussion and Questions Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:28 pm

Welcome to the (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights News, Discussion and Questions Thread 2021. Please continue your discussion, to post your updates or ask your questions here.

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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights News, Discussion and Questions Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:54 am

How long will it take until the pedestal and crown of the Statue of Liberty will be reopened, considering the rest of the Statue of Liberty National Monument is already open and has been since the summer? I do know that the interior never reopen even when COVID-19 cases were at their lowest in about September. Also, I do know that the Statue of Liberty National Monument, including the crown was among the last attractions in New York City to remain open, along with the Empire State Building Observatory and both were only closed starting March 16, a few days after most other attractions. The Empire State Building Observatory, including the small 102nd floor reopened July 20 and the ground of Liberty Island as well that day. Furthermore, the Statue of Liberty Museum and Ellis Island, including the Ellis Island Immigration Museum reopened August 24. So, do you think that the pedestal will reopen before the crown as the pedestal has a larger space? Finally, what type of work will have to be done to reopen the crown?
 
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Museum in Pompeii Reopened After Being Closed for Decades

Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:38 pm

The Antiquarium, which is the museum on the ruins of Pompeii has been reopened to the public to showcase artifacts from the ruined city. The museum was first opened to the public in 1873 and was damaged by bombing during World War 2. The museum has been closed since a deadly earthquake that occured in nearby Naples. The museum has some of the best preserved artifacts from Pompeii, such as marble and bronze statues, protective amulets, and household items. This will sure be a way for tourism to return to the site after COVID-19 and provide visitors with more things to do.
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Red Light District in Amsterdam to be Moved

Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:24 am

The famous red light district in Amsterdam is set to be moved to a new erotic center elsewhere in the city. This is being done because authorities hoped visitors will focus on the arts and culture of the city. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepointsg ... trict/amp/
 
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Re: Red Light District in Amsterdam to be Moved

Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:42 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
The famous red light district in Amsterdam is set to be moved to a new erotic center elsewhere in the city. This is being done because authorities hoped visitors will focus on the arts and culture of the city. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepointsg ... trict/amp/

The fact that it’s more or less now run by Eastern European mafia and has lost a lot of its Dutch character surely plays a role.
 
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Re: Red Light District in Amsterdam to be Moved

Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:46 am

I bet some politicians have or will get a cut from real estate investors to move the current RLD so can redevelop it to make a massive profit.
The Covid-19 pandemic has likely made it impossible to operate anyway, much of the business has shifted to the internet, and with less access the remaining women can charge more.
 
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Re: Red Light District in Amsterdam to be Moved

Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:42 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
This is being done because authorities hoped visitors will focus on the arts and culture of the city.


There was me thinking they already were.
 
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Re: Red Light District in Amsterdam to be Moved

Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:55 am

Virtual737 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
This is being done because authorities hoped visitors will focus on the arts and culture of the city.


There was me thinking they already were.


Seriously...a place with so much history and architectural intrigue - that should not be the top draw by any means.

As for Eastern European mafia and RLDs...they have taken over many places, not just Amsterdam. In the online arena as well.
 
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Re: Red Light District in Amsterdam to be Moved

Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:53 am

Why? It's actually a nice place to walk through during the day. If you didn't know better you couldn't tell it was the RLD for the most part. And at night most people are just there just to be there with the numerous restaurants. Prostitution aside it's a pretty nice place to visit.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights News, Discussion and Questions Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:18 pm

... I have just read some information that local government in Japan want to impose a tax on everyone climbing up the Mt. Fuji
https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/407383
As the report also mentioned, there are apparently deeper problem with the religious value and ownership of the mountain peak area, which sound to me like a problem that shouldn't be touched in the first place?
 
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Retractable Floor Planned for Colosseum in Rome

Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:29 am

The Italian government is planning to fund $12 million for installing a new retractable floor in the Colosseum in Rome that would be used for theater and concert performances. The underground floors have remained exposed for more than a century and the Colosseum in Rome has had materials removed for use in other buildings over the centuries. The arena served its original purpose for over four centuries until the fall of the Roman Empire. Officials hope that the new floor will be completed by 2023. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
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Re: Retractable Floor Planned for Colosseum in Rome

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:28 pm

That's actually pretty cool. As an American I'd travel to go see a show there.
 
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Re: Retractable Floor Planned for Colosseum in Rome

Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:25 am

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That's actually pretty cool. As an American I'd travel to go see a show there.

Makes me wonder how such a system will work in an ancient structure.
 
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The View at Palm Jumeriah Opened to the Public

Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:21 am

On April 7, The View at the Palm was opened to the public at the Palm Tower, which is 95 percent complete. The attraction has direct access from the second floor of Nakheel Mall and includes The View Exhibition, interactive aquarium tunnels, a Starbucks Cafe, and a gift shop.ship. The Observatory deck is at Level 52 at a height of 240 Meters (787 feet) and a VIP lounge is also included. The SushiSamba restaurant is located on the 51st floor and has a number of cuisine options. This is a new exciting attraction with spectacular views of the Palm Jumeriah, Dubai skyline, and the Persian Gulf and some good news amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.hotelnewsme.com/news/palm-j ... -now-open/
 
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Statue of Liberty Pedestal Reopened

Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:32 am

On July 1, the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty, including the outdoor observation deck at the top was reopened. The crown remains closed at this time, but this is still some good news. Still wondering when the crown will reopen and what will have to happen before the crown reopens? https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/news/sta ... at%2050%25.
 
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Ferris Wheel in Times Square

Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:16 am

A ferris wheel 110 feet tall opened Wednesday and gives riders a unique view of Times Square in New York City. The ferris wheel will be open until September 12 and there are free rides for those recently vaccinated. A very interesting thought for Times Square.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com ... /10973743/
 
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Re: Ferris Wheel in Times Square

Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:36 am

IMO it doesn't fit in with all of the tall skyscrapers surrounding it, not to mention it taking up more ground space. The Wonder Wheel at Coney Island makes more sense. Also, it looks like it's has open-air cars, so hopefully no one tries to jump off of it at its height and lead to an attraction shutdown a la Hudson Yards Vessel.
 
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Re: Ferris Wheel in Times Square

Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:08 am

I have never been to NYC but to this I say:

no.

The whole point of view wheels, or whatever they are calling them, is to see stuff. We can see the billboards and neon lights of Times Square from the ground. The view wheels at Seattle , San Francisco, Santa Monica, Coney Island, Chicago, etc. give a view. We can see iconic skyline. From what I have seen of Times Square, there is none of that. So, no.
 
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Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:37 pm

There should be an observation tower or observation wheel built in Downtown Fort Worth or close to Downtown as the city currently does not have such an attraction. Downtown Dallas has Reunion Tower year round with the Texas Star and Top O Tower at Fair Park open during the State Fair. Grapevine has the Grapevine Main Tower and The Colony has The Grandscape Wheel. Arlington has the Oil Derrick Observation Tower at Six Flags. The proposal that would be best suited for Downtown Fort Worth is a tower with a rotating cabin similar to the Brighton I360 in Brighton, England or the Top O Texas Tower at the State Fair of Texas. The Tower in Downtown Fort Worth should be 550 feet tall and the cabin should have some seats and space for people to walk around and stand like the Brighton I360 as the cabin rotates. Other options for such a tower about 550 feet tall include a Polercoaster or Skyline by US Thrill Rides Wondering how long it would be before such a tower could open to the public. Also, what locations in and around Downtown Fort Worth would be suited for a tower of this nature. https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/e...rk-state-fair/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...r.html%3famp=1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polercoaster https://www.usthrillrides.com/skyspire https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/e...odonata-finch/ https://fwtx.com/news/grapevine-main...-opening-date/
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:50 pm

Observation towers do well when there’s interesting things to see out the window. This is Ft. Worth...come on now :lol:
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:31 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Observation towers do well when there’s interesting things to see out the window. This is Ft. Worth...come on now :lol:

I actually have a good idea as a lot of people thought the London Eye would not work for London, but had become the most visited paid tourist attraction in Britain.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:39 am

Again, that's London....this is Ft. Worth :D

I mean, this is the nicest picture they could muster on Ft. Worth's 'Visit Ft. Worth' page :lol:

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https://www.fortworth.com/listings/fort ... nter/3577/
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:25 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Observation towers do well when there’s interesting things to see out the window. This is Ft. Worth...come on now :lol:

I actually have a good idea as a lot of people thought the London Eye would not work for London, but had become the most visited paid tourist attraction in Britain.
London has the Thames River, Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, Tower Bridge, etc., all visible from the Eye. What does Fort Worth have, the stockyards?
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:35 am

johns624 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Observation towers do well when there’s interesting things to see out the window. This is Ft. Worth...come on now :lol:

I actually have a good idea as a lot of people thought the London Eye would not work for London, but had become the most visited paid tourist attraction in Britain.
London has the Thames River, Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, Tower Bridge, etc., all visible from the Eye. What does Fort Worth have, the stockyards?

Fort Worth has the Amon Carter Museum, Sundance Square, Will Rogers Memorial Auditorium, Kimbell Art Museum, and Fort Worth Museum of Modern Art as well. You could also potentially have a view of Downtown Dallas and the stadiums in Arlington.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:48 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
I actually have a good idea as a lot of people thought the London Eye would not work for London, but had become the most visited paid tourist attraction in Britain.
London has the Thames River, Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, Tower Bridge, etc., all visible from the Eye. What does Fort Worth have, the stockyards?

Fort Worth has the Amon Carter Museum, Sundance Square, Will Rogers Memorial Auditorium, Kimbell Art Museum, and Fort Worth Museum of Modern Art as well. You could also potentially have a view of Downtown Dallas and the stadiums in Arlington.


Millions are going to flock to see the Amon Carter Museum and Will Rogers Auditorium from the outside, from a distance? Mmmkay.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:52 am

Aaron747 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
London has the Thames River, Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, Tower Bridge, etc., all visible from the Eye. What does Fort Worth have, the stockyards?

Fort Worth has the Amon Carter Museum, Sundance Square, Will Rogers Memorial Auditorium, Kimbell Art Museum, and Fort Worth Museum of Modern Art as well. You could also potentially have a view of Downtown Dallas and the stadiums in Arlington.


Millions are going to flock to see the Amon Carter Museum and Will Rogers Auditorium from the outside, from a distance? Mmmkay.

The Gateway Arch in St.Louis, Tower of the Americas in San Antonio, and Reunion Tower in Dallas have become popular tourist attractions despite being in cities with similar landscapes and things to do as Fort Worth.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:03 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Fort Worth has the Amon Carter Museum, Sundance Square, Will Rogers Memorial Auditorium, Kimbell Art Museum, and Fort Worth Museum of Modern Art as well. You could also potentially have a view of Downtown Dallas and the stadiums in Arlington.


Millions are going to flock to see the Amon Carter Museum and Will Rogers Auditorium from the outside, from a distance? Mmmkay.

The Gateway Arch in St.Louis, Tower of the Americas in San Antonio, and Reunion Tower in Dallas have become popular tourist attractions despite being in cities with similar landscapes and things to do as Fort Worth.


Other than Busch Stadium, the Gateway Arch is *the* major attraction in STL. Tower of the Americas has a legacy element as part of a World's Fair site. Downtown Dallas has a lot of significant architecture in a distinctive skyline, and Reunion Tower is part of that. Ft. Worth is completely 'blah' by comparison.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:26 am

Aaron747 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

Millions are going to flock to see the Amon Carter Museum and Will Rogers Auditorium from the outside, from a distance? Mmmkay.

The Gateway Arch in St.Louis, Tower of the Americas in San Antonio, and Reunion Tower in Dallas have become popular tourist attractions despite being in cities with similar landscapes and things to do as Fort Worth.


Other than Busch Stadium, the Gateway Arch is *the* major attraction in STL. Tower of the Americas has a legacy element as part of a World's Fair site. Downtown Dallas has a lot of significant architecture in a distinctive skyline, and Reunion Tower is part of that. Ft. Worth is completely 'blah' by comparison.

That is why I suggested a tower with a rotating vertical platform similar to the Brighton I360 for Fort Worth that would be the icon and major attraction for the city, much like the Gateway Arch is for St.Louis. The Gateway Arch has an observation deck at the top as well.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:59 am

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There should be an observation tower or observation wheel built in Downtown Fort Worth or close to Downtown as the city currently does not have such an attraction. /


Just because it doesn't have one, doesn't mean it needs one.

What, exactly, would you be looking at? I lived in the DFW area; there really isn't much in and around Ft. Worth to see that would be enhanced by seeing it from above.

ArchGuy1 wrote:
The Gateway Arch has an observation deck at the top as well.


No, it has an observation room from which you can look out some small windows. The view's nice, but I'd prefer a view of the Arch from one of the buildings to the west. I stayed at the Hyatt once and had a spectacular view of the Arch and park.

My opinion: you don't build an "observation tower", you build a structure that has other functions...such as an office building, that can evolve into an observation attraction based on location, access and things to see.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:05 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
The Gateway Arch in St.Louis, Tower of the Americas in San Antonio, and Reunion Tower in Dallas have become popular tourist attractions despite being in cities with similar landscapes and things to do as Fort Worth.


Other than Busch Stadium, the Gateway Arch is *the* major attraction in STL. Tower of the Americas has a legacy element as part of a World's Fair site. Downtown Dallas has a lot of significant architecture in a distinctive skyline, and Reunion Tower is part of that. Ft. Worth is completely 'blah' by comparison.

That is why I suggested a tower with a rotating vertical platform similar to the Brighton I360 for Fort Worth that would be the icon and major attraction for the city, much like the Gateway Arch is for St.Louis. The Gateway Arch has an observation deck at the top as well.


Spending more money on something fancy won't change that there's hardly anything to look at. See reply #4.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:23 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
There should be an observation tower or observation wheel built in Downtown Fort Worth or close to Downtown as the city currently does not have such an attraction. Downtown Dallas has Reunion Tower year round with the Texas Star and Top O Tower at Fair Park open during the State Fair. Grapevine has the Grapevine Main Tower and The Colony has The Grandscape Wheel. Arlington has the Oil Derrick Observation Tower at Six Flags. The proposal that would be best suited for Downtown Fort Worth is a tower with a rotating cabin similar to the Brighton I360 in Brighton, England or the Top O Texas Tower at the State Fair of Texas. The Tower in Downtown Fort Worth should be 550 feet tall and the cabin should have some seats and space for people to walk around and stand like the Brighton I360 as the cabin rotates. Other options for such a tower about 550 feet tall include a Polercoaster or Skyline by US Thrill Rides Wondering how long it would be before such a tower could open to the public. Also, what locations in and around Downtown Fort Worth would be suited for a tower of this nature. https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/e...rk-state-fair/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...r.html%3famp=1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polercoaster https://www.usthrillrides.com/skyspire https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/e...odonata-finch/ https://fwtx.com/news/grapevine-main...-opening-date/


Up until very recent, wasn't Ft. Worth always the conservative side of the Metroplex?
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:29 am

fr8mech wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
There should be an observation tower or observation wheel built in Downtown Fort Worth or close to Downtown as the city currently does not have such an attraction. /


Just because it doesn't have one, doesn't mean it needs one.

What, exactly, would you be looking at? I lived in the DFW area; there really isn't much in and around Ft. Worth to see that would be enhanced by seeing it from above.

ArchGuy1 wrote:
The Gateway Arch has an observation deck at the top as well.


No, it has an observation room from which you can look out some small windows. The view's nice, but I'd prefer a view of the Arch from one of the buildings to the west. I stayed at the Hyatt once and had a spectacular view of the Arch and park.

My opinion: you don't build an "observation tower", you build a structure that has other functions...such as an office building, that can evolve into an observation attraction based on location, access and things to see.

One thing that the Arch in St.Louis has going for it is the view of the Mississippi River. You also have the Old Courthouse and Busch Stadium.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:34 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Observation towers do well when there’s interesting things to see out the window. This is Ft. Worth...come on now :lol:

I actually have a good idea as a lot of people thought the London Eye would not work for London, but had become the most visited paid tourist attraction in Britain.


You can't compare Fort Worth and London, the London Eye gives a fantastic view over most of a historically important city, the only other observation tower in the city with as good a view is the now closed Post Office Tower.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:19 am

I've missed these threads of fantasy, it's been a while.

Without looking it up (I can't be bothered right now), is the London Eye really the most visited attraction/landmark in Britain? I mean, we have so many better things to go look at and experience just in London alone before you start looking at the great stuff elsewhere in the country.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:47 am

BlueberryWheats wrote:
I've missed these threads of fantasy, it's been a while.

Without looking it up (I can't be bothered right now), is the London Eye really the most visited attraction/landmark in Britain? I mean, we have so many better things to go look at and experience just in London alone before you start looking at the great stuff elsewhere in the country.


That would be a negative - depending on the year and source, it seems the winners are either the Tower of London, British Museum, or the Royal Botanical Gardens
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:14 pm

First thing Fort Worth can do is to increase development density and attract people building something interesting there, I guess?
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:24 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
BlueberryWheats wrote:
I've missed these threads of fantasy, it's been a while.

Without looking it up (I can't be bothered right now), is the London Eye really the most visited attraction/landmark in Britain? I mean, we have so many better things to go look at and experience just in London alone before you start looking at the great stuff elsewhere in the country.


That would be a negative - depending on the year and source, it seems the winners are either the Tower of London, British Museum, or the Royal Botanical Gardens
It's the most visited Ferris Wheel on the banks of the Thames in London... :D
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:27 pm

I think the OP should read up on the historical significance of the Gateway Arch. It isn't just an observation deck.
 
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Re: Idea for an Observation Tower in Fort Worth

Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:39 pm

Well, if the Panther Island boondoggle is ever completed, there would be a development project masquerading as a flood control project with a healthy dose of nepotism thrown in to observe. I suspect it will resemble a drainage canal though.

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