olle wrote:I think UK post Brexit will need to get used to be a third country in EU view.
I think the news about Germany sending Nurses to Portugal, EU fighting for our older generation life etc will change the way that most people look at EU.
Each crisis shows for EU citizen that their own country getting too small for protecting them, even countries with rather big populations like France, Gemany, Spain and Poland. The crisis, where Brexit is probably a crisis speeding up things, bring us as Brexiteers rightfully say closer to a federate state. The irony is that without Brexit that would take much longer time.
ROI might be different. But will ROI forget soon that EU gave them power against UK when it normally should have been waiting begging to the master to arrive? ROI used EU pretty efficient in negotiating NI Brexit pretty much its way.
Didn't you know? 'Two World Wars and One World Cup?'
I agree with most, including many who loathe Johnson, that the EU massively cocked up on vaccines, however they did pretty damn soon admit their mistake on their proposed action and retract.
Compare and contrast with the UK, last week, there were days when we had the worst death rate per capita, not just in Europe either.
It's great that the UK vaccine effort is going so well, I'm getting my first jab tomorrow, since it is, unlike the billions wasted on the useless track and trace, in the hand of experts of the NHS, not a collection of Johnson's grubby mates and funders.
Note that the Republic of Ireland, expressing their dismay at the EU, have in effect more leverage with them, little ROI, which has been treated with such contempt by the Johnson's government, witness his attempts to invoke illegal laws against them, just like he did with parliament in 2019, an act found later by the UK Supreme Court to be illegal, c'mon Brextiteers, where's your Parliament as primary then?
No apologies for the major foul ups that has given the UK the worst death rate in Europe, what was the most common headline across the press (80% Tory/Brexit supporting, as they are mostly owned by offshore tax dodgers), last year? 'Government Ignored SAGE Advice'. (SAGE being the scientific body advising the government).
As for trade, there are a lot of people who voted leave, running businesses, who bitterly regret it.
Well they trusted a bunch of obvious charlatans, Farage, Johnson, Gove etc.
After decades of usually lies about the EU from those symbols of accurate reporting and decency, the British tabloid press.
Too many in the UK have been brought up on blaming johnny foreigner for everything, well I guess it beats taking responsibility for our own mistakes.
How does this sound abroad, well last week Macron made a rather silly pronouncement in repeating a mistake by a German publication about the effectiveness of the AZ vaccine on the over 65's, he was I think reacting, (badly), in the failure of the one being developed by France's own Pasteur institute.
No excuses for him but that sort of nationalistic blame shifting attitude was at the heart of the whole Leave project.
Not nice to be on the other end, is it?
While again it takes a major mistake to unite, as the EU did last week, the political divide in N.I. I do think that some in the EU just remember Johnson from before he was well known here.
In the late 90's he was a 'correspondent' for the Euro Skeptic Daily Telegraph, (now fully swivel eyed), the outright and deliberate lies he printed about the EU were so many, so insulting to the intelligence, it even got him sacked by that paper, never a friend of the EU.
'How did this obvious clown become PM' they must ask.
The UK government took a punt on ordering multiple vaccines, they got that right, well done, glad they did since it stands out as the one thing they have done right in all of this.
Hence why I think there has been a lack of crowing at the EU over their bad mistake, since it came not long after we passed the 100,000 dead mark, around 30,000 more than in those lodestars of Brexit imagination and 'memory', the 1940/1 Blitz and 1944/45 V-1/V-2 attacks.
Johnson looked broken when that milestone was passed, don't expect contrition though.
Finally, back last April when there was a perceived lack of ventilators in the UK, Germany, who had plenty, had their Army offer up dozens for our use.
Bet that wasn't too well reported here.
