ltbewr wrote:Despite today's horrors and riot in the Capitol, the Congress has reconvened to continue the confirmation of the EC vote for Biden & Harris. Likely there may be no or only 1 more state to be objected to so this process that usually only takes maybe 90 minutes will be over with by dawn Thursday.
Some have compared what happened today at the Capitol to the 1814 battle of what we call incorrectly the War of 1812 waged by the British government to try to take back the USA. I think a better comparison although on a smaller but deadlier scale was the terror act of Puerto Rican separatists in 1954.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Unit ... l_shootingDonald Trump needs to be removed or suspended from office ASAP with the 25th Amendment led by VP Pence with the cabinet members invoking it. Trump caused today's seditious riot, asking for his cult followers to march on DC on the 6th for weeks and along with Trump flunky Rudy Giuliani triggered the bomb for the terror attack with highly inflammatory speeches about an hour before the start of the confirmation process. Trump must face charges of attempted murder, manslaughter, inciting a riot, including sedition and multiple felonies that should mean he rots in jail to his death.
The object of the 1812-14 war are varied but for the US, it was mainly an attempt to subdue and absorb what is now Canada.
(That's why much of the rest of the world has a wry smile when all the whole 'we are not an empire'/'lost our innocence' - again starts up). Never innocent.
Also having to hear endless lectures about being 'the oldest' (no) and 'greatest democracy'. The latter very risible today and that's before the whole all the history of Jim Crow etc.
No, a half century of racial animus anew after finally legislation made colour based voting suppression and a range of other oppression illegal at last, which had a blowback with one party with the 'Southern Strategy'.
Then they started putting B movie actors up for President when a certain anti science/anti knowledge took hold, along with a long, ongoing Gerrymandering, voter roll suppression, trying to bring back Jim Crow.
This of course is not the view of the majority of Americans now, how could it be when Trump's predecessor was elected and twice but that drove the GOP and many of it's voters white hot with anger.
It to this stepped an obvious con man, fraudster, deeply racist, very nasty and every GOP member who supported or allowed it, who voted for him, are deeply culpable in these events of the last 24 hours, he told you all the law means nothing to him before becoming President, indeed in the US he has, for decades, got away with all manner of things.
Saying 'we never thought he stoop to this' won't cut it, he praised murderous Neo Nazis in 2017 FFS!
Even now there are various US political talking heads on screen saying the line about how 'this proves how strong our institutions are'.
That's nice, however perhaps a less flowery way to look at it, me I think they are looking the wrong way down a telescope.
And yes, we have noticed, as have I think, I hope, the majority of Americans, the kid gloves these rioters were dealt with, compared all too often with peaceful demos by organisations/groups who have no intention of overturning elections, if anything often they are having to protest (again) for the right to vote as well as a clear and lethal racial bias from the police.
A BLM protest where some criminal idiots attach themselves have been treated very differently from a clear attempt to overturn democracy from hostile, violent white thugs.
And the instigator is still walking around? No 25th Amendment?
Oh but you broke away from a Monarchy (in the 18th Century), well now you have your own, with a chunk of your populace who think he has a divine right to rule.
(And the Monarchy broken away from did not even have executive power by the 18th Century, unlike the one the GOP has created).
He’s not my hero. And what was the reaction to his call for violence? The US is on a downwards spiral and needs more consists leaders, not people who make fun of her death while they would be outraged if she had different political believes.
