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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:40 pm

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For my friends south of the 49th - Is there any concern or public commentary, in the US, about other Trump supporter cells 'activating' similar domestic terror acts in other parts of the USA following their siege and attempted coup? I would think every state legislature would be reviewing their security plans.


Terrorists motivated very the absolute believe to do the right thing for their country, constitution and faith? If the FBI doesn't mob them up very efficiently ISIS is going to look like a joke for the next couple of years.

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:51 pm

Just hitting the wire - insurrectionist, Richard Barnett, has been arrested and charged for his role in the Trump siege - he was the guy in Pelosi's office.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:51 pm

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[I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech.
How did you expect Biden to respond? Singing kumbaya while holding hands with rioters?

It’s only a horrible divisive speech to people that supported yesterday’s events. Anyone that is offended by yesterday’s speech, deserves to be offended.

I always figured you a patriot, even though there’s very little you and I agreed on. But if you really think the speech was horrible, then really you are beyond hope.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:01 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
skyservice_330 wrote:
For my friends south of the 49th - Is there any concern or public commentary, in the US, about other Trump supporter cells 'activating' similar domestic terror acts in other parts of the USA following their siege and attempted coup? I would think every state legislature would be reviewing their security plans.


Terrorists motivated very the absolute believe to do the right thing for their country, constitution and faith? If the FBI doesn't mob them up very efficiently ISIS is going to look like a joke for the next couple of years.

Best regards
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I do not see these people as anything like ISIS. I'm not Anerican so I don't have much idea of how fanatical these people are but reportedly pipe bombs were found and a policeman was mortally injured during their storming of the Capitol. That puts them in the category of very dangerous people to me.

What does concern me for the future is what these people will do when some of them are put on trial.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:10 pm

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What does concern me for the future is what these people will do when some of them are put on trial.

That’s an easy one to answer: they’ll go to jail. :)
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:22 pm

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AirWorthy99 wrote:
I can see how things are going to go. The horrible events of January the 6th which both sides agreed were horrible, are being taken by advantage by the Democrats and now raising the race tensions by saying how police was better with the Trump supporters than with BLM, that's despite a Pro-Trump white unarmed woman being killed by police.

The temptation of identity politics is just too high for Democrats. This was a great opportunity to unite the country for Biden/Harris, but its all about race.

If we keep tearing the country apart, by the fringes either by inflaming race tensions, inflaming crazy conspiracy theories, we will be certainly be headed to bigger problems than what we saw in Summer 2020 or January 6th. That goes both ways, the left and right, we need to unite and find things in common to make this union worthwhile for all.


Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.

Identity politics is all resident trump has, the fact that you fit the identity targeted is probably why you are so ignorant of it. It’s like accents, only other people have them.

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:27 pm

petertenthije wrote:
art wrote:
What does concern me for the future is what these people will do when some of them are put on trial.

That’s an easy one to answer: they’ll go to jail. :)


Perhaps you were being humourous in your response, In case not, what I meant to ask was what will members of the group who are not put on triial do in response to members of their group going on trial? Will the mob go on the rampage?
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:34 pm

So, we're calling them terrorists, right?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:35 pm

Tugger wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
I can see how things are going to go. The horrible events of January the 6th which both sides agreed were horrible, are being taken by advantage by the Democrats and now raising the race tensions by saying how police was better with the Trump supporters than with BLM, that's despite a Pro-Trump white unarmed woman being killed by police.

The temptation of identity politics is just too high for Democrats. This was a great opportunity to unite the country for Biden/Harris, but its all about race.

If we keep tearing the country apart, by the fringes either by inflaming race tensions, inflaming crazy conspiracy theories, we will be certainly be headed to bigger problems than what we saw in Summer 2020 or January 6th. That goes both ways, the left and right, we need to unite and find things in common to make this union worthwhile for all.


Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.

I just keep being amazed at your blindness and utter inability to actually look at what you and "the side you favor" are doing that creates this situation. You can ONLY blame others and do not accept fault. Can't you just say and admit that "identity politics" are also a huge tactic for the Republican party as well? You seem to think that "identity" applies only to people of color or "gay" or women. You don't see white, Christian, "conventional male female roles" as "identity". You ignore the call to arms and the feeding of lies of stolen election and "others are coming to start trouble (BLM supporters etc.) in your town and you must be ready!" that is also going out via the media. That this media message they spew is the definition of using fear to control, to incite people.

Why can you not speak to that?

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:35 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
I can see how things are going to go. The horrible events of January the 6th which both sides agreed were horrible, are being taken by advantage by the Democrats and now raising the race tensions by saying how police was better with the Trump supporters than with BLM, that's despite a Pro-Trump white unarmed woman being killed by police.

The temptation of identity politics is just too high for Democrats. This was a great opportunity to unite the country for Biden/Harris, but its all about race.

If we keep tearing the country apart, by the fringes either by inflaming race tensions, inflaming crazy conspiracy theories, we will be certainly be headed to bigger problems than what we saw in Summer 2020 or January 6th. That goes both ways, the left and right, we need to unite and find things in common to make this union worthwhile for all.


Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.


Yep, it is very unfortunate. We all, I think maybe 95-96% of this country hated what happened on Wednesday. This was a great opportunity for Biden/Harris to actually step up. To be fair Biden did actually address correctly on Wednesday but yesterday's appearance, was the contrary.

70+ millions of people voted for Trump, if we want to co-exist peacefully, the very least is for those coming to power on the 20th is to extend an olive branch, and start from scratch, and not inflame the existent tensions, with race bating or keep it up with censorship, or thinking of again going down the impeachment route. They are drunk in power, they care less about 'unity' and 'healing'.

The Democrats are emboldened, they are going to rule Washington by themselves, they don't need the GOP. But during these divisive and highly partisan times, a bit of interest would have been great.

One thing to note, this union hinges on 50 states willing to become part of it. I really do hope it is kept, but in reality, things are not looking up. The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs, the same way they did in 2008. That led to Trump in 2016. They should learn how to sit down with the other side, and agree on addressing the real issues in a bi-partisan way. For the sake of unity and this country.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:37 pm

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So, we're calling them terrorists, right?


Who? The protestors? No. They are being called "Insurrectionists" by the news media, and by members of Congress. I have yet to see a respected outlet calling them terrorists.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:42 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
I can see how things are going to go. The horrible events of January the 6th which both sides agreed were horrible, are being taken by advantage by the Democrats and now raising the race tensions by saying how police was better with the Trump supporters than with BLM, that's despite a Pro-Trump white unarmed woman being killed by police.

The temptation of identity politics is just too high for Democrats. This was a great opportunity to unite the country for Biden/Harris, but its all about race.

If we keep tearing the country apart, by the fringes either by inflaming race tensions, inflaming crazy conspiracy theories, we will be certainly be headed to bigger problems than what we saw in Summer 2020 or January 6th. That goes both ways, the left and right, we need to unite and find things in common to make this union worthwhile for all.


Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.

The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs, the same way they did in 2008. That led to Trump in 2016. They should learn how to seat down with the other side, and agree on addressing the real issues in a bi-partisan way. For the sake of unity and this country.

Unfortunately, the “left” didn’t ram anything down your throat in 2008. In fact they didn’t do anything, they had an opportunity to do something and they didn’t. Sorry to ruin your trashing of the liberalcommienazisocialists but, please, try to research what the views of the Democrats are before you call them “The Left”. The Left are Democrats that actually are more towards the center. And before you even mention the senator from Vermont, he represents the views of FDR and Eisenhower NOT Stalin and Mao.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:42 pm

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The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs,
wait what!?!?!? Isn’t this whole thread about what the loony trumpistas did and you think the left rams down throats at all costs?? Comedy gold!

What was it that the left did with Obama after 2008 that compares to invading the the capital to prevent part of a lawful election taking place.

You still haven’t condemned their action btw.

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:42 pm

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So, we're calling them terrorists, right?


Yup, fits the FBIs definition of domestic terrorism word for word after all.

"The FBI defines domestic terrorism as violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature".

Violent, check
Criminal, check
Domestic, check
Political, check

Add a nice splattering of religious, racial and social motives on top. I wonder if destroyed the environment fits under environmental issues.

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:43 pm

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NIKV69 wrote:

Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.


Socialism is a lie and uses fear and is the tactic of the GOP. The GOP just uses dishonorable liars and media personalities that enjoy outright lying and gaslighting for money. They blame others for isuses. No Personal responsibility at all for the GOP. Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Fox News, OAN, Rush Limbaugh, Radio, they all use lies to sell out this country to people too uneducated to think for themselves. your attacks against people that have NOT been calling the shots shows just how brainwashed the Trump Cult has become.


GOP Fear Strategy
- the Socialism Attack (except for Gov't Socialist programs for the wealthy and favored military contractors)
- Societal scares of dangerous dark minorities coming to suburbs (you heard trump say himself)
- Select Societal Voter Suppression (it actually works and is actively in play)

DEM Fear Strategy
- A head on addressing on America's centuries old racial disparagement (Republicans hear that 'playing the race card as they don't believe in redress of built-in Systemic Racism, they believe it does not exist.
- Education/Medical care for all - GOP sees that as bad thing - easy solution, pass it based on a permanent opt out for those who dislike it.
- Socialism, AOC...but they have problem at all of their hero who is subservient to commie (Putin) and repressive regimes

"before this they had no intention of working with the republicans."

Well ALL the Dem expectations of decent behavior/goodwill to/from GOP was met with buckets of cold piss.

...the GOP has made their position clear 'NO' on anything DEMs propose, so yeah 'fuck 'em. Fuck 'em right back as they've done endlessly and in your face.


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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:47 pm

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70+ millions of people voted for Trump

It's nothing but amusing that this has suddenly become a talking point for supporters of President Trump--as if it has any significance other than to reflect that the turnout for this election was incredibly high. So what? It is not suddenly a new thing that adults have to deal with. You supported a candidate that did not win, and the number of votes doesn't suddenly make you special or worthy of coddling. As was so frequently--and correctly--mentioned after 2016, the number of popular votes is ultimately inconsequential.
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The Democrats are emboldened, they are going to rule Washington by themselves, they don't need the GOP. But during these divisive and highly partisan times, a bit of interest would have been great.

This is nothing but melodramatic. With a 50-50 split in the Senate and 1-2 moderates on both sides, there will be no choice but to involve both parties in most every circumstance. With little fear of successful contradiction, I will predict that the number of times Vice President-Elect Harris will cast the deciding vote will be relatively low.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:54 pm

SYRAVGEEK wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.

The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs, the same way they did in 2008. That led to Trump in 2016. They should learn how to seat down with the other side, and agree on addressing the real issues in a bi-partisan way. For the sake of unity and this country.

Unfortunately, the “left” didn’t ram anything down your throat in 2008. In fact they didn’t do anything, they had an opportunity to do something and they didn’t. Sorry to ruin your trashing of the liberalcommienazisocialists but, please, try to research what the views of the Democrats are before you call them “The Left”. The Left are Democrats that actually are more towards the center. And before you even mention the senator from Vermont, he represents the views of FDR and Eisenhower NOT Stalin and Mao.



Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

They are thinking on doing the same, and passing major legislation without any GOP support. Which is a mistake.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:57 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
SYRAVGEEK wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs, the same way they did in 2008. That led to Trump in 2016. They should learn how to seat down with the other side, and agree on addressing the real issues in a bi-partisan way. For the sake of unity and this country.

Unfortunately, the “left” didn’t ram anything down your throat in 2008. In fact they didn’t do anything, they had an opportunity to do something and they didn’t. Sorry to ruin your trashing of the liberalcommienazisocialists but, please, try to research what the views of the Democrats are before you call them “The Left”. The Left are Democrats that actually are more towards the center. And before you even mention the senator from Vermont, he represents the views of FDR and Eisenhower NOT Stalin and Mao.



Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

They are thinking on doing the same, and passing major legislation without any GOP support. Which is a mistake.

Ok well then why does the GOP pass legislation without major democratic support?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:58 pm

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seahawk wrote:

I have to disagree, as OBL never had any form of legitimation. Trump on the other hand still is the president of the United States and to make matters worse quite a few leading figures of the Republican party have been repeating the same lies. This is not terrorism, this is a coup attempt.


OBL was legitimized. Look at all the people who hung on his every word and who he helped. Now, look at all the MAGA flags and the gun waving people who will do anything for their leader.


Legitimized by whom? He was president of which country and elected by whom? The goals are also totally different. OBL wanted to cause pain to the countries he hated, so that they act in a manner he expects. Trump acted in a way, so that his followers disturb the legitimate democratic process of the country he still is president of, so that his defeat in an legal election is reversed.

1. is terrorism
2. is a coup


Yes, what he did is both terrorism and a coup. OBL, it could be argued, was a leader of a sect just like MAGA and their leader. MAGA wanted to cause pain to "liberal" cities and states. ISIL and al-Qaida both disrupted elections and the democratic process in different countries.

I will agree that OBL was not a leader of a country as the West knows it.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:58 pm

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Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

Indeed it was passed on a partisan level...much like the GOP tax bill--neither were the first partisan legislation efforts. What's your point beyond the fact that you don't agree with Democrats? You've made that abundantly clear. What's also clear is that in spite of multiple promises to repeal and replace, the Republicans never did either, and never even introduced any actual plan.
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:00 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
SYRAVGEEK wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs, the same way they did in 2008. That led to Trump in 2016. They should learn how to seat down with the other side, and agree on addressing the real issues in a bi-partisan way. For the sake of unity and this country.

Unfortunately, the “left” didn’t ram anything down your throat in 2008. In fact they didn’t do anything, they had an opportunity to do something and they didn’t. Sorry to ruin your trashing of the liberalcommienazisocialists but, please, try to research what the views of the Democrats are before you call them “The Left”. The Left are Democrats that actually are more towards the center. And before you even mention the senator from Vermont, he represents the views of FDR and Eisenhower NOT Stalin and Mao.



Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

They are thinking on doing the same, and passing major legislation without any GOP support. Which is a mistake.


So, when Republicans can and must pass bills with no Democratic support but Democrats better do bipartisan bills or else?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:00 pm

These Trump supporters are brutal to people that break cult rules.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/0 ... tor-456592
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:10 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
I can see how things are going to go. The horrible events of January the 6th which both sides agreed were horrible, are being taken by advantage by the Democrats and now raising the race tensions by saying how police was better with the Trump supporters than with BLM, that's despite a Pro-Trump white unarmed woman being killed by police.

The temptation of identity politics is just too high for Democrats. This was a great opportunity to unite the country for Biden/Harris, but its all about race.

If we keep tearing the country apart, by the fringes either by inflaming race tensions, inflaming crazy conspiracy theories, we will be certainly be headed to bigger problems than what we saw in Summer 2020 or January 6th. That goes both ways, the left and right, we need to unite and find things in common to make this union worthwhile for all.


Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.


Yep, it is very unfortunate. We all, I think maybe 95-96% of this country hated what happened on Wednesday. This was a great opportunity for Biden/Harris to actually step up. To be fair Biden did actually address correctly on Wednesday but yesterday's appearance, was the contrary.

70+ millions of people voted for Trump, if we want to co-exist peacefully, the very least is for those coming to power on the 20th is to extend an olive branch, and start from scratch, and not inflame the existent tensions, with race bating or keep it up with censorship, or thinking of again going down the impeachment route. They are drunk in power, they care less about 'unity' and 'healing'.

The Democrats are emboldened, they are going to rule Washington by themselves, they don't need the GOP. But during these divisive and highly partisan times, a bit of interest would have been great.

One thing to note, this union hinges on 50 states willing to become part of it. I really do hope it is kept, but in reality, things are not looking up. The left is intent in ramming down our throat their agenda at all costs, the same way they did in 2008. That led to Trump in 2016. They should learn how to sit down with the other side, and agree on addressing the real issues in a bi-partisan way. For the sake of unity and this country.


Republicans are just as partisan. For god sake, Mitch wouldn't let a $2000 stimulus hit the floor of the senate, which was supported by the president.

Least we forget that the party who apparently wants to explore bipartisan means, also just stormed the capitol building 48 hours ago. Last I checked, that is about as far from bipartisanship as you can get. A party that stopped the democratic process, a peaceful transfer of power, and the core of bipartisanship, is not a party that gets to say the left is "shoving an agenda down their throats." The GOP needs to get their house in order. Figure out what identity and credibility they have left, and then start from there. Based on polls, 45% of people within the GOP agreed with the actions that happened on Wednesday. This is about as clear a sign as any that the party is split.

There has to be accountability for what happened. There is a clear line between MAGA supporters storming the capitol building, and President Trump. Look no further than the dozens of Trump flags that were on the capitol building that afternoon. The problem is, letting this slide by and not prosecuting those responsible opens the door for this to happen later down the road in any situation. BLM, MAGA, Greenpeace, whatever it may be, you set the precedent that this is a responsible way to react when something doesn't go your way.

There has to be accountability, and in this case it rests solely at Trump's and the GOP's door.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:23 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
70+ millions of people voted for Trump,


And, on Wednesday, some of them tried to disenfranchise and silence the voice, through force and violence, of those that didn't. What is your point? Or was that their 'olive branch.' :rotfl:
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:24 pm

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AirWorthy99 wrote:
Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

Indeed it was passed on a partisan level...much like the GOP tax bill--neither were the first partisan legislation efforts. What's your point beyond the fact that you don't agree with Democrats? You've made that abundantly clear. What's also clear is that in spite of multiple promises to repeal and replace, the Republicans never did either, and never even introduced any actual plan.


Yeah, but the Democrats want to pass, filibuster reform, adding new states, health care for all, green new deal, etc. All of that without any input from the GOP. Yes the GOP passed some legislation but nothing like what the Democrats have been promising for a long time.

They have done it before and for certain aren't afraid to do it again, more when the extremist have a platform.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:28 pm

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In my opinion, some criminal/terrorist elements have conveniently taken advantage of this to cause the mayhem at the capitol today.


From post #22 above. I presume you are referring to the Nazi's wearing '6 million wasn't enough' t-shirts that found refuge and were welcomed as company at the Trump rally?

Terrorist elements were definitely involved - those that brutalized cops (leading to death) and broke into and disrespected the seat of American democracy - and they were Trump supporters.
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:38 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

Indeed it was passed on a partisan level...much like the GOP tax bill--neither were the first partisan legislation efforts. What's your point beyond the fact that you don't agree with Democrats? You've made that abundantly clear. What's also clear is that in spite of multiple promises to repeal and replace, the Republicans never did either, and never even introduced any actual plan.


Yeah, but the Democrats want to pass, filibuster reform, adding new states, health care for all, green new deal, etc. All of that without any input from the GOP. Yes the GOP passed some legislation but nothing like what the Democrats have been promising for a long time.

They have done it before and for certain aren't afraid to do it again, more when the extremist have a platform.

Wait are you suggesting that dems try to pass legislation that they prefers and 5he GOP try’s to pass legislation that they prefer, oh the horror!!!

Seems to me you just don’t like the dems ideas, welcome to democracy. If you don’t like democracy you seem just like the guy trump wants on board.

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:41 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

Indeed it was passed on a partisan level...much like the GOP tax bill--neither were the first partisan legislation efforts. What's your point beyond the fact that you don't agree with Democrats? You've made that abundantly clear. What's also clear is that in spite of multiple promises to repeal and replace, the Republicans never did either, and never even introduced any actual plan.


All of that without any input from the GOP.

Again, I ask you, so what? We have these things called elections--and the most recent one was litigated to an unprecedented level. The Democratic party has the (barely) controlling votes in both the House and Senate, and was elected to the White House by a very wide majority. If you have a problem with that, your problem is with the system, and not necessarily today's Democratic Party. You talk like they just stepped on Republicans and the voters had no involvement in this whatsoever. Voters had the opportunity to assess an agenda and vote accordingly. And they did. And for all your fabricated concern about suddenly one party implementing it's agenda unilaterally (your assessment of which is entirely subjective, though opinions always are, which is your right), you ignore the fact that they don't have the votes to do it. In effect, you sound like you're whining because those mean ole extremist Democrats won't give you as much of say as you think you deserve because you have a strong opinion about their agenda. Why do you think your opinions make you more special, or your party of choice more deserving a place at the table, than the rest of us who acknowledge that is part of being an adult in a democratic society? Call me a jerk, but that rather sounds like a snowflake.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:42 pm

skyservice_330 wrote:
- and they were Trump supporters.


And literally send to the Capitol by Trump, that said he would go with them... but unfortunately his bone spurs came back.

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Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:45 pm

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And literally send to the Capitol by Trump


Exactly...this was very orchestrated going back to Trump Tweets in December saying the event would be 'wild.' Participants had t-shirts made for goodness sakes.

They showed up to a rally, perfectly timed 2 hours before the count was to occur at the Capitol, and got their marching orders -

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:09 pm

"Sasse says Trump was 'delighted' and 'excited' by reports of Capitol riot"
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533 ... pitol-riot
If true, this is beyond impeachable. This is unconscionable.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:19 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
if we want to co-exist peacefully, the very least is for those coming to power on the 20th is to extend an olive branch, and start from scratch, and not inflame the existent tensions, with race bating or keep it up with censorship, or thinking of again going down the impeachment route. They are drunk in power, they care less about 'unity' and 'healing'.


If you want to co-exist peacefully, the very least would be for a group of seditionists, cop killers and Nazi's NOT to storm the seat of American democracy by violence and force.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm

AirframeAS wrote:
vrbarreto wrote:
AirframeAS wrote:

He is not the first U.S. President to not show up at a successor's inauguration.


Well he can join Nixon in recent history.. Both being in disgrace being a common theme..


Other U.S Presidents who did not attend to their successor's inauguration as follows: John Adams, John Quincy Adams, and as well as Andrew Johnson. And I realize you said "recent history". However, I wanted to show and point out to others that this is not the first time regardless of circumstance.


Why? do you think people here are stupid? Everyone knows the backstories regarding John Adams refusing to attend his former friends inauguration. Those presidents that didn't attend were not invited or were snubbed. Modern day presidents are different. Nixon wasn't there to see his former vice-president inaugurations because he resigned in disgrace. Trump not going to go because he's a sore loser. Nobody wants him there anyway. Pence will be there representing the Republican party.
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:26 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:

Third, if you feel that 70+ million people are terrorist, how can you live with yourself?

The only person who has stated anything to that effect is your misappropriation of someone else's statement right there.

AirWorthy99 wrote:
do you really believe 70+ million people are in agreement with the insurrection of the capitol?

While not 70+million, you really need to read more, sir.

"45% of Republicans approve of the Capitol riots, poll claims."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83807.html

In case you didn't feel like doing the math, that would extrapolate to 31.5million. Take it for what you may.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:28 pm

AirWorthy99 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
AirWorthy99 wrote:
Well, I guess we forget that Obamacare did not receive any bi partisan support 2008-2010, that's why the Democrats lost the house in 2010. Despite being one of the most consequential and significant pieces of legislation in a long time the Democrats cared very little in getting any input from the GOP.

Indeed it was passed on a partisan level...much like the GOP tax bill--neither were the first partisan legislation efforts. What's your point beyond the fact that you don't agree with Democrats? You've made that abundantly clear. What's also clear is that in spite of multiple promises to repeal and replace, the Republicans never did either, and never even introduced any actual plan.


Yeah, but the Democrats want to pass, filibuster reform, adding new states, health care for all, green new deal, etc. All of that without any input from the GOP. Yes the GOP passed some legislation but nothing like what the Democrats have been promising for a long time.

They have done it before and for certain aren't afraid to do it again, more when the extremist have a platform.

Its called REAL change. Its called REAL action. Its nothing different from what FDR did, and is getting the same feedback from people
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:35 pm

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DLFREEBIRD wrote:

That was horrible to watch, the policeman running up the stairs, radio in hand asking for backup. Him turning around to see that this group was following him up the stairs and even encroaching upon him when he turned around. You knew they were, ready to kill him, if they got a opportunity. Timothy McVeigh wanna BE's, who cling to conspiracy theories that don't make any sense because there life revolves around far right media outlets.


The whole response was tough to watch from a security standpoint. From refusing help from other agencies to how they were just allowed to mill around after. It was so surreal. I would have expected paddy wagons and mass arrests.
The policeman beaten over the head with a fire hydrant. Who went back to work, and later collapsed. Really got my attention.

The conspiracy theory former military member who climbed through a broken glass window to be shot dead. Josh Hawley, fake tunnel vision. Anybody who holds two degree from Ivy league schools can't possibly be that delusional, he's as fake as Donald Trump.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:38 pm

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:

That was horrible to watch, the policeman running up the stairs, radio in hand asking for backup. Him turning around to see that this group was following him up the stairs and even encroaching upon him when he turned around. You knew they were, ready to kill him, if they got a opportunity. Timothy McVeigh wanna BE's, who cling to conspiracy theories that don't make any sense because there life revolves around far right media outlets.


The whole response was tough to watch from a security standpoint. From refusing help from other agencies to how they were just allowed to mill around after. It was so surreal. I would have expected paddy wagons and mass arrests.
The policeman beaten over the head with a fire hydrant. Who went back to work, and later collapsed. Really got my attention.

The conspiracy theory former military member who climbed through a broken glass window to be shot dead. Josh Hawley, fake tunnel vision. Anybody who holds two degree from Ivy league schools can't possibly be that delusional, he's as fake as Donald Trump.

Keep in mind Kayleigh McEnany went to Harvard
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:51 pm

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These Trump supporters are brutal to people that break cult rules.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/0 ... tor-456592
Several people repeatedly loudly yelled at the South Carolina Republican that he was a “traitor.” One woman called him a “liar,” while another said, “You work for the people, you work for us, do you hear me?” They promised not to touch him as he was surrounded by security.


There’s video out there on Twitter. ‘Traitor’ and ‘liar’ are the tame words. Much of what that woman yelled at Graham was profanity laced.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:11 pm

Will be interesting if they do go for impeachment.

How many Republicans will support Trump regardless.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:26 pm

Am I the only one who thinks we should be checking 8Chan and 4Chan. IDK if theyre still used but they might be useful
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:27 pm

BN747 wrote:
casinterest wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

Identity politics are a huge tactic for the Democratic party. They govern using fear and the MSM. I actually think Biden wanted to give unity a chance but that was squashed quickly. We saw how they are going to govern yesterday when Biden and Harris gave a horrible divisive speech. I hate to break it to you but even before this they had no intention of working with the republicans. Until Pelosi, Schumer and other people like Harris are not calling the shots nothing of any substance will get done. We will see a good stimulus because we need it desperately but after that sadly it will be gridlock.


Socialism is a lie and uses fear and is the tactic of the GOP. The GOP just uses dishonorable liars and media personalities that enjoy outright lying and gaslighting for money. They blame others for isuses. No Personal responsibility at all for the GOP. Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Fox News, OAN, Rush Limbaugh, Radio, they all use lies to sell out this country to people too uneducated to think for themselves. your attacks against people that have NOT been calling the shots shows just how brainwashed the Trump Cult has become.


GOP Fear Strategy
- the Socialism Attack (except for Gov't Socialist programs for the wealthy and favored military contractors)
- Societal scares of dangerous dark minorities coming to suburbs (you heard trump say himself)
- Select Societal Voter Suppression (it actually works and is actively in play)

DEM Fear Strategy
- A head on addressing on America's centuries old racial disparagement (Republicans hear that 'playing the race card as they don't believe in redress of built-in Systemic Racism, they believe it does not exist.
- Education/Medical care for all - GOP sees that as bad thing - easy solution, pass it based on a permanent opt out for those who dislike it.
- Socialism, AOC...but they have problem at all of their hero who is subservient to commie (Putin) and repressive regimes

"before this they had no intention of working with the republicans."

Well ALL the Dem expectations of decent behavior/goodwill to/from GOP was met with buckets of cold piss.

...the GOP has made their position clear 'NO' on anything DEMs propose, so yeah 'fuck 'em. Fuck 'em right back as they've done endlessly and in your face.


BN747


Well said.
As for this fuss about Trump attending or not, the Inauguration, surely the wrong question.
How about 'why is someone who committed an obvious and deliberate act of sedition still walking around?'
US justice? Don't make me laugh, the whole world is thinking the same, except for the delighted titters in Moscow, Bejing, ISIS camps.
It's a short list who made on that day of utter shame, direct calls to sedition, mad Rudi, Trump Jr the even more stupid are the first two of several.

Up to 20 years would deal with Trump and Rudi, a fraction of it most likely, Don Jr would come out 'different', no soft soap holiday prison either, the same places those insurrectionists arrested will end up. Only fair.
Or you could make the same mistake as letting Nixon walk, however his actions were piddling compared to Trump.
Maybe the real warning is from Wiemar Germany and the light sentence and general sympathy shown to another insurrectionist.

We all saw and heard what we happened, it was even threatened by the should be perps, so the political Flat Earthers on here can try and deflect, say up is down, all they like, they know it too.
But having backed the man that stink is hard to shift.
Because it makes you culpable too, I mean he hardly ever hid his behavior, brittle ego, racism, incompetence, contempt for the office and constitution, right from the start.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:29 pm

Twitter have suspended Trumps account for good


Twitter Bans President Trump, Citing 'Risk Of Further Incitement Of Violence'

Twitter has permanently suspended President Trump from Twitter over a pattern of behavior that violated company rules.

"After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence," the company said in a statement announcing the ban.

www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954760928/twitte ... 0148740555
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:46 pm

OA260 wrote:
Twitter have suspended Trumps account for good


Twitter Bans President Trump, Citing 'Risk Of Further Incitement Of Violence'

Twitter has permanently suspended President Trump from Twitter over a pattern of behavior that violated company rules.

"After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence," the company said in a statement announcing the ban.

http://www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954760928 ... 0148740555


Hmmmmm, so I guess if he wants to fire any one now..he'll have ask Rudy to go do it
or scribble something on paper
or flatten their car tires

BUT the firm, stern angry 'You're Fired!" guy will forever remain a staged character of fiction because we all know the talking bully can only do his thing as long as plenty of bodies are surrounding and protecting him.

Wow, ending his for presidency exactly like every single business he has OWNED!...a steaming pile of ashes.

Who could have see that coming? Biden voters - Sure! The other 73 million...never were interested in the details of the rise of the Emperor with no Clothes.

No way to heal that divide, the racial divide has a better chance at resolution than the MAGA divide!
How do you unite True Patriots and the fraudulent believers of their christian religion, their willingness to torch American Democracy...How?

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:21 am

That Jayden X fellow behind that Video seems to be a professional rioter turning up at any and every protest no matter the cause or ideology. Truly devoted to being in the center of trouble.

I have never been much of a protester myself.
But I have family, a couple of cousins, a millitary officer and a lawyer to be exact, that used to travel far and wide to partake in every protest supporting their (leftist) political views, and they have told many stories on how there always was a certain number of people turning up time and time again to instigate trouble while pretending to be representing the cause. It was most often dealt with silently by the crowd pushing them to the back, or turning them over to the police.

You can be pretty sure that both the BLM protests and the act of terror on the congress attracted these kinds of people in the crowd. Of which the person posting this video is probably one, but it would be a meaningless conspiracy theory to blame the ridcolous scale and vitrol of the capitol-terror attack on professional rioters. This was almost purely MAGA.
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Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:23 am

Great shot by that officer though. Very unfortunate that he had to experience that however.

As for the no name traitorous scumbag, well...what is it they always say? If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear? Or was it to just obey the officers orders and you'll be alright?

I feel more remorse for the staff that had to mop her off the floor.
 
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Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:27 am

FGITD wrote:
Great shot by that officer though. Very unfortunate that he had to experience that however.

As for the no name traitorous scumbag, well...what is it they always say? If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear? Or was it to just obey the officers orders and you'll be alright?

I feel more remorse for the staff that had to mop her off the floor.

And we all know that officer is getting more punishment after killing a white woman breaching the US Capital than an officer that shoots a black teen Jaywalking
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Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:31 am

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While I agree on the Weimar comparison, and the analysis of the silent enablers of the republican party seemingly not understanding the gravity of the fire they are playing with, it takes a very special leader to make this a full-blown right wing authoritarian state. Hitler was one. Trump is not one.


I always bristled at that analogy too. Hitler had a generally higher higher level of social competency —well, sort of, there was that one time he was caught stuffing shrimps into his pockets at a social gathering— and a better understanding of people's inner workings than 45 ever will. If anything, 45 was far more of a Joe Stalin...


M564038 wrote:
I don't think Trump's moral compass is any better than Hitler's, I think they care(d) about equally much wether other people lived or died, prospered or suffered, other people is just antagonists or enablers in their worlds. But Trumps does not have the strenght, charisma or intelligence to take it to the heights Hitler took it. He is also too old.


45 will not be back. His cult will remain problematic though, even if their focus finds a new L. Ron Hubbard for them to gravitate around.


M564038 wrote:
When Trump announced his candidacy for President, the Media went ballistic. They gave him all the attention he needed to build a campaign. Had they left him in the shadow as other fringe candidates the world would have looked very different today. The Trump phenomenon is on them. They laughed of him in the beginning, and he played them like a fiddle.


Yep. But to split a hair, I would say he played them like a Gong. Loud, attention grabbing, single noted, and in the end, short. And yes, they —we?— made it that easy for him.


M564038 wrote:
Let's hope they react differently when America's true Hitler gets on the scene.
Just 3 days ago, almost half of Georgia still voted republican after all the obvious republican madness.
The US is incredibly vulnerable for a fascist take-over once the right leader turns up, if it is not met in a completely different way than Trump.


I like to tell my political friends —the ones who really know what is going on, not the FB meme repeaters— that the fact that 45 was GOP was almost luck of the draw. Yeah, Conservatives are more structured to follow a strong man, but beyond that, there is nothing that would intrinsically protect Liberals from something like this. I could almost as easily have been Us that this happened to.

I do not say this to foster some bogus false equivalency; there are genuine differences between the motives of our parties. But more out of a sense of general caution and vigilance.
There will be more of these coming. We all need to pay close attention to the crap that gets lofted at the Primary level...
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:39 am

BBC news reports that 3 members of the US Congress started drafting a document to impeach Trump while the rioters occupied the Capitol and that they intend to initiate proceedings on Monday.

I don't know how the system works - could an impeachment process continue after a president leaves office?
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:42 am

SYRAVGEEK wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Great shot by that officer though. Very unfortunate that he had to experience that however.

As for the no name traitorous scumbag, well...what is it they always say? If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear? Or was it to just obey the officers orders and you'll be alright?

I feel more remorse for the staff that had to mop her off the floor.

And we all know that officer is getting more punishment after killing a white woman breaching the US Capital than an officer that shoots a black teen Jaywalking


More on that 'hero' Air Force Veteran (I'm ashamed of tarnishing my beloved corp) killed for crashing through a Capitol building window...who's guy here soliciting sympathy from everyone by saying if she was black blah blah blah...


EXCLUSIVE: Trump-supporting Air Force vet who was shot dead after storming the Capitol 'harassed and chased' husband's ex-girlfriend on a highway, deliberately ramming into her three times in a fit of jealousy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ds-ex.html

...oh yeah, that explains her qualification for being a member of the Deplorable Corp and leader of the Trump Insurrection.


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Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:42 am

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BBC news reports that 3 members of the US Congress started drafting a document to impeach Trump while the rioters occupied the Capitol and that they intend to initiate proceedings on Monday.

I don't know how the system works - could an impeachment process continue after a president leaves office?

No, but when he leaves office he can be tried in civilian court. If he’s impeached he won’t have any cool postpresidential stuff after being removed.
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