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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:39 am

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Oops, the 'politicians' (light use of the term here) who voted to challenge the election result might start to get hit where any politician hurts the most: money.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55628946


wait for the complains how that is cancel culture to push through a socialist left wing agenda ....... folks on the right are already complaining they lose Twitter followers because left wing cancel culture....

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:25 pm

Disciplining off-duty police officers who participated in the pro-Trump rallies, even if committed serious crimes, will be very difficult due to their excessively strong unions and politicians who are caught not wanting to anger cops but also not anger in particular non-White voters. The bigger fear is that these LEO's who support Trump and his racism may mean they have racial and political bias in their their work that led to too many deaths of non-White persons and protests over last year.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:48 pm

Might have to stand up to them.

Appeasement is generally a mistake.

If the cops will not come on board, then perhaps people prepared to uphold the law should be recruited.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:15 pm

ltbewr wrote:
Disciplining off-duty police officers who participated in the pro-Trump rallies, even if committed serious crimes, will be very difficult due to their excessively strong unions and politicians who are caught not wanting to anger cops but also not anger in particular non-White voters. The bigger fear is that these LEO's who support Trump and his racism may mean they have racial and political bias in their their work that led to too many deaths of non-White persons and protests over last year.


This is a very different situation to a police dept trying to discipline one of their own for being “over zealous”. I’m not so sure how helpful a union is going to be when it’s the feds coming after cops (assuming those cops did break the law).

Obviously, nobody should have a problem if an off-duty cop decides to join a peaceful protest. But, being an off-duty cop should, in no way, provide any protection if said cop breaks the law.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:48 pm

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Was it an inside job?
12 (!) Capitol police officers are under investigation, 2 of whom have already been suspended
The Capitol police chief has also submitted his resignation
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics ... index.html

You and I both saw the police taking selfies with the insurgents and in one instance opening a gate. There defiently needs to be an investigation undertaken by someone who isn't in USCP, theres gonna be a congressional comitee and people are gonna get fired.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:50 pm

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Oops, the 'politicians' (light use of the term here) who voted to challenge the election result might start to get hit where any politician hurts the most: money.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55628946

on an aviation related note he owned the company that charted some of the last Boeing 747SPs and was the only US operater of the A340
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:02 pm

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So since in Benghazi, 4 people were killed and security was an issue, how many investigations will the Republicans run for this botched national security effort at the Capitol that cost 5 lives?


https://www.businessinsider.com/pentago ... ort-2021-1

Pentagon officials sent memos on January 4 and 5 barring DC guardsmen from receiving ammo and riot gear, engaging with protesters (except for self-defense), sharing equipment with local police, and using surveillance or air assets without explicit approval from President Donald Trump's acting Defense Secretary, Christopher Miller, according to The Post.

The additional bureaucratic hurdle delayed the DC National Guard's response after US Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund asked on Wednesday for 200 guardsmen to provide backup — with guardsmen not arriving until 2 1/2 hours later — according to The Post.


Trust me, if the GOP takes control of the house while Biden is president there will be hearing after hearing about Hunter Biden and his laptop. Any investigations about what happened 01/06/2021 will be immediately quashed under the guise of "We need to get past this'.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:16 pm

Two opinion pieces about Trump, the election and why this should be designated as the coup it is rather then just a protest/riot.

The first article is written by Fiona Hill who has served as a presidential advisor to George W Bush, Barrack Obama and Donald Trump.
She explain why it's important to designated this as a coup rather then chicken out and just call it a protest.

Since last Wednesday, people have been arguing what to call what happened at the U.S. Capitol — was it a riot? An uprising? An insurrection? I’ve been public in calling it a coup, but others disagree. Some have said it’s not a coup because the U.S. military and other armed groups weren’t involved, and some because Donald Trump didn’t invoke his presidential powers in support of the mob that broke into the Capitol. Others point out that no one has claimed or proved there was a secret plan directed by the president, and that Trump’s efforts to overturn the outcome of the 2020 presidential election could never have succeeded in the first place.

These observations are based on the idea that a coup is a sudden, violent seizure of power involving clandestine plots and military takeovers. By contrast, Trump’s goal was to keep himself in power, and his actions were taken over a period of months and in slow motion.


Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Carrie Dann and Melissa Holzberg at NBC writes about the root cause about the coupe, Republicans voting against certifying the results,
Trump's lies about the stolen election and so on.........

WASHINGTON — The president begging Georgia’s secretary of state to overturn the election results … More than 140 House and Senate Republicans objecting to the Electoral College count … Trump addressing supporters in Washington (“You will have an illegitimate president … And we can't let that happen.”) … Many of those supporters later storming the Capitol … Trump saying that he won’t attend the inauguration (and getting banned from Twitter) … The drafting of articles of impeachment … And now authorities warning of more armed protests.

All of these events have taken place in just the last 10 days.

And of all them have a simple root cause — the president of the United States refusing to concede an election he clearly lost. (Yes, he acknowledged there would be
a new administration and a transition of power, but that’s as far as he’s gone.)


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-t ... t-n1253891
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:38 pm

I really want the feds to snag the fat hairy f**k jabbing and beating the downed Capitol cop BrianSicknick with the US flag pole, he's spotted at the bottom left of every scene showing the mob trying to rush the one side entrance just before the lengthy gush of pepper spraying rains on them all...we've all seen it.

We see all the posers have gotten rounded up now disseminate clips of that one scene over and over til this cowardly angry ass (without a reason) is ID'd and caught.


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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:02 pm

More winning for team trump: https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-n ... 3f04b29863
The Justice Department have indicted two people who are suspected to have parked a truck filled with bombs and weapons close Capitol Hill.

The Justice Department on Tuesday filed its first federal grand jury indictments against two defendants linked to the Capitol riot, including against an
Alabama man alleged to have parked a truck filled with homemade bombs, guns and ammo two blocks from the Capitol.

Both men were arrested last week and their criminal allegations were made public shortly after the riot. The indictments formalize the charges the men,
after they were arrested under criminal complaint.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:19 pm

ltbewr wrote:
Disciplining off-duty police officers who participated in the pro-Trump rallies, even if committed serious crimes, will be very difficult due to their excessively strong unions and politicians who are caught not wanting to anger cops but also not anger in particular non-White voters. The bigger fear is that these LEO's who support Trump and his racism may mean they have racial and political bias in their their work that led to too many deaths of non-White persons and protests over last year.


I think from my own experiences that if you are in that kind of job (or any of the other public services) then it’s one of the things you shouldn’t be doing.

I was asked some time ago if I could let a party put some advertising banners on my front wall. I refused, even though it was for a party I might vote for. It’s simply not acceptable. Same as for political rallies and the like, I stay well away from those. Maybe my views on this are old fashioned, but it avoids any conflicts of interest.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:22 pm

I have to say, one great sign of 'unity' we have just recently seen since last Wednesday. How great it is to call the national guard and federal law enforcement agencies for riots, I remember a few months ago how bad it was and how dictatorial and racist this was. To the fact that they had to cancel an op-ed from a sitting senator for suggesting this when riots plagued this country. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... horitarian

How fast the wind blows. I am glad finally we are all agreeing on this.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:24 pm

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I have to say, one great sign of 'unity' we have just recently seen since last Wednesday. How great it is to call the national guard and federal law enforcement agencies for riots, I remember a few months ago how bad it was and how dictatorial and racist this was. To the fact that they had to cancel an op-ed from a sitting senator for suggesting this when riots plagued this country. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... horitarian

How fast the wind blows. I am glad finally we are all agreeing on this.



They . the people under attack. called the national guard.

Not the fascist liar that is currently sitting in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. And that dishonorable fool still delayed the response for over 2 hours.

Can we agree on that?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:36 pm

As usual, Trump staying on brand. Says he had no responsibility whatsoever. For the Republican Party, yet another Trump branding disaster.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm

Rep. John Katko (R-NY 24, Syracuse/Oswego/Aurburn) becomes first House Republican to back Trump impeachment
https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2021/ ... hment.html
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:56 pm

They finally hammered Jim Jordan on the Unity issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-jim-jordan-a ... 20830.html

“No, the question you asked me was ‘Is Joe Biden, the vice president, president-elect?’ And I said yes, of course he is,” Jordan responded.

McGovern was not satisfied with that answer. “Just repeating the question: So Joe Biden won fair and square?”

“He won the election because how the process works is the last chance to object is Jan. 6, and that’s—” Jordan said before being interrupted by McGovern.

“If we want to talk about healing, we have to talk about truth,” McGovern said. “And if we want to talk about healing, we also have to deal with the issue of accountability.”




The issue of Unity is why we are here now, with folks like Jim Jordan pushing this Alternative election scenario. It has to be a cruel joke that Trump awarded the Medal of Freedom to a man working so hard to deny a fair election.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:07 pm

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They finally hammered Jim Jordan on the Unity issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-jim-jordan-a ... 20830.html

“No, the question you asked me was ‘Is Joe Biden, the vice president, president-elect?’ And I said yes, of course he is,” Jordan responded.

McGovern was not satisfied with that answer. “Just repeating the question: So Joe Biden won fair and square?”

“He won the election because how the process works is the last chance to object is Jan. 6, and that’s—” Jordan said before being interrupted by McGovern.

“If we want to talk about healing, we have to talk about truth,” McGovern said. “And if we want to talk about healing, we also have to deal with the issue of accountability.”




The issue of Unity is why we are here now, with folks like Jim Jordan pushing this Alternative election scenario. It has to be a cruel joke that Trump awarded the Medal of Freedom to a man working so hard to deny a fair election.



This is the time for Dems to mimic the ruthlessness that's known as the norm for GOP'ers.

Take that fake 'unity' act elsewhere.

They really think people can be BS'd 247.

Trump sort of 'conceded' last week after his Insurrection...no Dem took him seriously delivering that fake ass response ...

- within 24 hours of issuing it, he announced his regret for doing it.

There's no meeting in the middle, halfway or part way with the Jordan nuts... so screw them, they have goodwill credits whatsoever.

Purge the Senate and House for ALL who signed on to that baseless Election Challenge.

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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:29 pm

casinterest wrote:
They finally hammered Jim Jordan on the Unity issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-jim-jordan-a ... 20830.html

“No, the question you asked me was ‘Is Joe Biden, the vice president, president-elect?’ And I said yes, of course he is,” Jordan responded.

McGovern was not satisfied with that answer. “Just repeating the question: So Joe Biden won fair and square?”

“He won the election because how the process works is the last chance to object is Jan. 6, and that’s—” Jordan said before being interrupted by McGovern.

“If we want to talk about healing, we have to talk about truth,” McGovern said. “And if we want to talk about healing, we also have to deal with the issue of accountability.”




The issue of Unity is why we are here now, with folks like Jim Jordan pushing this Alternative election scenario. It has to be a cruel joke that Trump awarded the Medal of Freedom to a man working so hard to deny a fair election.


I note with interest, that he’s referred to as Gym Jordan by many because of his very dodgy past.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:08 pm

Joint Chiefs of Staff memo:

"On January 20, 2021, in accordance with the Constitution, confirmed by the states and the courts, and certified by Congress, President-elect Biden will be inaugurated and will become our 46th Commander in Chief."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/joint-chiefs-memo-capitol-insurrection/index.html
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:51 am

Republican Rep. Fitzpatrick introduced bill to censure the President for "trying to unlawfully overturn" the presidential election and "violating his oath of office" by instigated the violent mob that assaulted the U.S. Capitol last week.
Per Axios: https://www.axios.com/house-gop-fitzpat ... 9979f.html

McConnell's statement wanting to "purge Trump from the party" strikes me as very monumental.
He would not make such a statement if he did not intend to follow-through with the threat, and then only if he could bring 15 other GOP Senators with him.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:25 am

Colorado GOP Congresswoman (and high school dropout) Lauren Boebert just caused a security incident while attempting to bring her firearm into the House chamber. She will likely have to add this to her lengthy criminal record.
https://www.denverpost.com/2021/01/12/l ... rity-stop/
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:36 am

For years many of us have thought that 'finally Trump went too far' and were angry and disappointed when those past moments didn't happened.
Finally, about 4 1/2 years too late, that 'too far' moment has been reached with the riot, terrorist attack on and in the Capital building last week and Trump's part to cause it and his reaction to it. Finally some Republicans in the House and Senate are recognizing Trump needs to be punished under Impeachment proceedings and banished from the Party.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:48 am

Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill is now on record claiming that multiple Republican members of Congress were giving "reconnaissance tours" to would-be rioters the day before the raid took place.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 648386002/
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:19 am

What is it with far right politicians and their connections to convicted felons?
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:38 am

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What is it with far right politicians and their connections to convicted felons?

Extreme opinions. Extreme people. Extreme people have exaggerated traits, which usually means their flaws are equally exaggerated. It’s no different on the far left other than we don’t really have an elected far left in the United States—in spite of what some people may say, the US left wing is quite centrist by global standards.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:56 am

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Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill is now on record claiming that multiple Republican members of Congress were giving "reconnaissance tours" to would-be rioters the day before the raid took place.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 648386002/


Did she actually get video of it happening?

The impeachment cannot happen soon enough. It has to happen regardless and if the right wing extremists make another attack then they should face the consequences of that. Any further uprisings like that will just hurt the Republican party even more.

What will be interesting to see is how and if the Republican party can rebuild itself - it's undoubtedly in a very bad way at the moment.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:59 am

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ArcticSEA wrote:
Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill is now on record claiming that multiple Republican members of Congress were giving "reconnaissance tours" to would-be rioters the day before the raid took place.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 648386002/


Did she actually get video of it happening?

The impeachment cannot happen soon enough. It has to happen regardless and if the right wing extremists make another attack then they should face the consequences of that. Any further uprisings like that will just hurt the Republican party even more.

What will be interesting to see is how and if the Republican party can rebuild itself - it's undoubtedly in a very bad way at the moment.

She’s better be able to back that up. That’s a bold statement.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:03 am

Surely, if this claim is true, and I doubt she would have made it were it not true, surveillance video would back it up.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:18 am

She’s ex-military, Annapolis grad, former prosecutor. Sounds like a straight shooter.

No way she’d broadcast this without receipts, and no doubt she was the one selected to deliver this stunning news.

I expect FBI visits very, very soon to certain members of Congress.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:21 am

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She’s ex-military, Annapolis grad, former prosecutor. Sounds like a straight shooter.

No way she’d broadcast this without receipts, and no doubt she was the one selected to deliver this stunning news.

I expect FBI visits very, very soon to certain members of Congress.


The members involved are not smart enough to handle darkweb or runabout communications. Everything will be on their phones and email.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:53 pm

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Francoflier wrote:
Oops, the 'politicians' (light use of the term here) who voted to challenge the election result might start to get hit where any politician hurts the most: money.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55628946


wait for the complains how that is cancel culture to push through a socialist left wing agenda ....... folks on the right are already complaining they lose Twitter followers because left wing cancel culture....

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This phrasing of Cancel Culture needs to stop. Do you know what it really is? The real name is "Free Market"
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:26 pm

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tommy1808 wrote:
Francoflier wrote:
Oops, the 'politicians' (light use of the term here) who voted to challenge the election result might start to get hit where any politician hurts the most: money.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55628946


wait for the complains how that is cancel culture to push through a socialist left wing agenda ....... folks on the right are already complaining they lose Twitter followers because left wing cancel culture....

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This phrasing of Cancel Culture needs to stop. Do you know what it really is? The real name is "Free Market"


Yes, but they won´t call it that, because "free market" is good. So, if the free market doesn´t do what they want it to you, it needs another name.

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Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:31 pm

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casinterest wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

wait for the complains how that is cancel culture to push through a socialist left wing agenda ....... folks on the right are already complaining they lose Twitter followers because left wing cancel culture....

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This phrasing of Cancel Culture needs to stop. Do you know what it really is? The real name is "Free Market"


Yes, but they won´t call it that, because "free market" is good. So, if the free market doesn´t do what they want it to you, it needs another name.

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Bad Business would be another name for it. Something I think the Trump Organization is going to be finding out about
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:43 pm

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tommy1808 wrote:
casinterest wrote:


This phrasing of Cancel Culture needs to stop. Do you know what it really is? The real name is "Free Market"


Yes, but they won´t call it that, because "free market" is good. So, if the free market doesn´t do what they want it to you, it needs another name.

best regards
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Bad Business would be another name for it. Something I think the Trump Organization is going to be finding out about


calling it that would create problems with their revenue stream, companies are probably not falling over themselves to place ads on a network that implies to their shareholders their actions are not in their best interesst.

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Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:48 pm

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casinterest wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

Yes, but they won´t call it that, because "free market" is good. So, if the free market doesn´t do what they want it to you, it needs another name.

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Bad Business would be another name for it. Something I think the Trump Organization is going to be finding out about


calling it that would create problems with their revenue stream, companies are probably not falling over themselves to place ads on a network that implies to their shareholders their actions are not in their best interesst.

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That it is bad business is not in doubt. The issue has been how long it has taken for people to realize it is bad business. People have teetered a bit too close to the edge of the knife.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm

ltbewr wrote:
For years many of us have thought that 'finally Trump went too far' and were angry and disappointed when those past moments didn't happened.
Finally, about 4 1/2 years too late, that 'too far' moment has been reached with the riot, terrorist attack on and in the Capital building last week and Trump's part to cause it and his reaction to it. Finally some Republicans in the House and Senate are recognizing Trump needs to be punished under Impeachment proceedings and banished from the Party.


Just banished from the party? He could potentially run again for president as a third party or independent candidate.
Impeachmentt and conviction could also used to prohibit Trump from ever holding any federal office. All it takes is a separate vote after a successful vote for conviction to bar him from any federal office. Also that vote only has to be a simple majority of the Senate. Disqualification from holding federal office would be a gift to the entire Republican field of candidates running in 2024 or even 2028.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm

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johnboy wrote:
She’s ex-military, Annapolis grad, former prosecutor. Sounds like a straight shooter.

No way she’d broadcast this without receipts, and no doubt she was the one selected to deliver this stunning news.

I expect FBI visits very, very soon to certain members of Congress.


The members involved are not smart enough to handle darkweb or runabout communications. Everything will be on their phones and email.


https://twitter.com/DocLiza1/status/1349202471382638595

The evidence of one has been posted, and gleamed right from the congresswoman's instagram post.

Without looking at the image, would any of you be surprised at all to see Lauren Boebert there?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:58 pm

casinterest wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
johnboy wrote:
She’s ex-military, Annapolis grad, former prosecutor. Sounds like a straight shooter.

No way she’d broadcast this without receipts, and no doubt she was the one selected to deliver this stunning news.

I expect FBI visits very, very soon to certain members of Congress.


The members involved are not smart enough to handle darkweb or runabout communications. Everything will be on their phones and email.


https://twitter.com/DocLiza1/status/1349202471382638595

The evidence of one has been posted, and gleamed right from the congresswoman's instagram post.

Without looking at the image, would any of you be surprised at all to see Lauren Boebert there?

I just wondered where her Glock was when the Capital was stormed. I thought she was using to defend herself, right?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:58 pm

luckyone wrote:
cpd wrote:
ArcticSEA wrote:
Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill is now on record claiming that multiple Republican members of Congress were giving "reconnaissance tours" to would-be rioters the day before the raid took place.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 648386002/


Did she actually get video of it happening?

The impeachment cannot happen soon enough. It has to happen regardless and if the right wing extremists make another attack then they should face the consequences of that. Any further uprisings like that will just hurt the Republican party even more.

What will be interesting to see is how and if the Republican party can rebuild itself - it's undoubtedly in a very bad way at the moment.

She’s better be able to back that up. That’s a bold statement.


Why is it that Republicans can make statements with zero proof and we are all supposed to believe it but a non-Republican makes a statement and it is sus?
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:16 pm

seb146 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
cpd wrote:

Did she actually get video of it happening?

The impeachment cannot happen soon enough. It has to happen regardless and if the right wing extremists make another attack then they should face the consequences of that. Any further uprisings like that will just hurt the Republican party even more.

What will be interesting to see is how and if the Republican party can rebuild itself - it's undoubtedly in a very bad way at the moment.

She’s better be able to back that up. That’s a bold statement.


Why is it that Republicans can make statements with zero proof and we are all supposed to believe it but a non-Republican makes a statement and it is sus?

Because in my opinion ANYONE who makes a statement like that should back it up.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:22 pm

So who told Trump "say this or we'll impeach you"? Trump issues a statement in which he has urges no violence/lawbreaking.

"BREAKING: Pres. Trump: "In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind...
I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You.""


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1349431362143531012
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-up ... 2#75230137

The satement also proves that Trump still can use his free speech right to communicate with the rest of the world.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:25 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
So who told Trump "say this or we'll impeach you"? Trump issues a statement in which he has urges no violence/lawbreaking.

"BREAKING: Pres. Trump: "In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind...
I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You.""


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1349431362143531012
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-up ... 2#75230137

Likely an unnamed Senator or House leader who's quietly aware of the real numbers.
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:26 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
So who told Trump "say this or we'll impeach you"? Trump issues a statement in which he has urges no violence/lawbreaking.

"BREAKING: Pres. Trump: "In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind...
I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You.""


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1349431362143531012
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-up ... 2#75230137


I would imagine about every GOP person that wants there to be a viable Republican party going forward is pushing this. The comments at the House impeachment hearings are a lot of looking out for the GOP while condemning Trump.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:27 pm

Donald Trump impeached for historic second time over deadly riots at US Capitol

http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump- ... l-12186948
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:50 pm

OA260 wrote:
Donald Trump impeached for historic second time over deadly riots at US Capitol

http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump- ... l-12186948

With 10 Republican “Yes” votes it is the most bipartisan impeachment!
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:54 pm

SYRAVGEEK wrote:
With 10 Republican “Yes” votes it is the most bipartisan impeachment!

It might well be the most bipartisan vote of Trump’s entire presidency!
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:11 am

petertenthije wrote:
SYRAVGEEK wrote:
With 10 Republican “Yes” votes it is the most bipartisan impeachment!

It might well be the most bipartisan vote of Trump’s entire presidency!

Aside from the giant increases in defense funding, yes!
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 am

There are rumors that it was newly-elected (and high school drop out) Lauren Boebert (the insane woman trying to bring her gun onto the house floor) was one who was giving "tours" to the insurrectionists. If this is true, she must be expelled from Congress. Rifle, CO not sending their best.
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:30 am

SYRAVGEEK wrote:
if she were tried before oversight it's be a bloodbath seeing as most of the progressives are assigned to that comitee


Can't American politicians do ANYTHING properly? Are they all utterly self serving? Why do Americans vote for people so lacking in integrrity?

PS Full marks to the reps who put their country and constitution first today
 
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Re: Pro-Trump Riot in US Capital Building

Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:34 am

It's amazing how many of these MAGAts are going on TV providing detailed accounts of their actions last week. "Here's my name, and where I live. I did it. We broke into the Capitol. I was there." And then they get immediately arrested. Not the best and the brightest, for sure. Although some, I assume, are good people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDKVyDQcft0
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