NYCVIE wrote:Period. This is the cold hard truth. IMO this is what the majority of Republicans who objected did it for:
Indeed. A recent conversation between myself and a "colleague" went something like:
ME: So why do you think the election was a fraud?
HIM: It was obviously a fraud, you can't tell me it wasn't.
ME: I'm not trying to, I'm trying to understand what makes you so convinced,
HIM: Just everything about it. Everyone is calling it a fraud.
ME: (Tempted to question "everyone" but didn't) Can you give me one example of the more widespread fraud?
HIM: Half a million dead people voted (can't remember the exact number, but it was something like this).
ME: How do you know this?
HIM: Trump has the proof, it's obvious.
ME: Can you name a handful of them?
HIM: There's HALF A MILLION, not a handful!
ME: OK, so even easier to name just a few of them?
HIM: I tell you, we have the proof, and Trump will show it when a court is forced to listen.
ME: He's had more than 50 court cases already. Did he allege fraud in any of them or did he show any proof of where this half a million figure came from?
HIM: You're the same as all the f****** commies.
I wasn't able to ask some of my most quizzing of questions such as:
1.) Let's say there was voter fraud. What makes you say that it was done by only the Democrats and that every fraudulent vote was for them, with none for the Republicans?
2.) If the Dems pulled off such a massive fraud, why do you think it only harmed Trump and not the Senators or Representatives?
3.) In hindsight, was Trump's call for none of his followers to use mail in ballots a huge mistake?
4.) After telling his followers not to use mail in ballots, and then attempting to force States to not count mail in ballots, do you think he said this to ensure fairness?
This guy is a reasonably intelligent, successful small business owner.