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Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:41 pm

Starting on March 16, Wyoming will lift it's mask mandate and allow restaurants, bars, gyms, and theater to resume normal operations on the same day. It will be interesting to see if COVID-19 cases go up significantly as a result. Also wondering if Biden will get tough through funding mandates and prohibiting non essential interstate travel to and from Wyoming with checkpoints on the entry and exit points of the state.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theden ... f_amp=true
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:45 pm

Biden will not do anything. Wyoming is deciding, as did Texas and Mississippi, to put their citizens at risk. People can still wear masks and avoid crowds if they feel they should. Just because businesses are open does not mean everyone should or wants to go.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:47 pm

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Starting on March 16, Wyoming will lift it's mask mandate and allow restaurants, bars, gyms, and theater to resume normal operations on the same day. It will be interesting to see if COVID-19 cases go up significantly as a result. Also wondering if Biden will get tough through funding mandates and prohibiting non essential interstate travel to and from Wyoming with checkpoints on the entry and exit points of the state.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theden ... f_amp=true
Who's going to man these checkpoints? There are other states that don't have mask mandates, either.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:58 pm

I’ve been under the impression that half the reason people go to Wyoming is because they’ve been socially distancing for hundreds of years now.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:59 pm

Do we need one thread for each individual American states on the issue?
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:31 pm

c933103 wrote:
Do we need one thread for each individual American states on the issue?


A general mask mandate thread would be a good idea. It will devolve into a pointless shouting match but it will start off with good intentions.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:39 pm

"Every individual is empowered to do the right thing here, regardless of what the states decide — for personal health, for public health, for the loved ones in their communities.""

Personal responsibility is how we got to 500,000 dead but sure! :roll:

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also wondering if Biden will get tough through funding mandates and prohibiting non essential interstate travel to and from Wyoming with checkpoints on the entry and exit points of the state.

Where would you get the idea this is even a thought?
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:14 pm

seb146 wrote:
Biden will not do anything. Wyoming is deciding, as did Texas and Mississippi, to put their citizens at risk. People can still wear masks and avoid crowds if they feel they should. Just because businesses are open does not mean everyone should or wants to go.


You left out Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee. All have no mask mandates. And other states are relaxing their mandates significantly. You'll be able to go to a Broadway show in a couple weeks.

The President has no power to enforce it anyways.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:39 pm

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You'll be able to go to a Broadway show in a couple weeks.


Not according to Broadway:

"The most recent projection by the Broadway League to reopen was May 30th, 2021 but that would be too optimistic to say the least and now they are backing away from this aspirational and lofty goal."
https://www.nytix.com/news/broadway-sho ... tay-closed
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:01 am

c933103 wrote:
Do we need one thread for each individual American states on the issue?

The thread about the Texas mask mandate was locked.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:54 am

LabQuest wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Biden will not do anything. Wyoming is deciding, as did Texas and Mississippi, to put their citizens at risk. People can still wear masks and avoid crowds if they feel they should. Just because businesses are open does not mean everyone should or wants to go.


You left out Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee. All have no mask mandates. And other states are relaxing their mandates significantly. You'll be able to go to a Broadway show in a couple weeks.

The President has no power to enforce it anyways.


Last summer, we spent a few days in central Oregon. The mask mandate was in place by Gov. Brown. People outside the I-5 corridor hated it because they believed (and still do) that Gov. Brown hates everyone outside the valley and hates all men, for some reason. Anyway, we went to the last county to have no covid cases and they still required masks. As much as they hated Gov.; Brown, they still told everyone to mask up while inside. Self preservation or not, we are still living our lives, just with masks on. Infection rates are lower and we still live our lives.

I don't see live events like Broadway or sporting events in packed stadiums happening until at least the fall. If only we had real leadership when this all started....
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:09 pm

seb146 wrote:
LabQuest wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Biden will not do anything. Wyoming is deciding, as did Texas and Mississippi, to put their citizens at risk. People can still wear masks and avoid crowds if they feel they should. Just because businesses are open does not mean everyone should or wants to go.


You left out Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee. All have no mask mandates. And other states are relaxing their mandates significantly. You'll be able to go to a Broadway show in a couple weeks.

The President has no power to enforce it anyways.


Last summer, we spent a few days in central Oregon. The mask mandate was in place by Gov. Brown. People outside the I-5 corridor hated it because they believed (and still do) that Gov. Brown hates everyone outside the valley and hates all men, for some reason. Anyway, we went to the last county to have no covid cases and they still required masks. As much as they hated Gov.; Brown, they still told everyone to mask up while inside. Self preservation or not, we are still living our lives, just with masks on. Infection rates are lower and we still live our lives.

I don't see live events like Broadway or sporting events in packed stadiums happening until at least the fall. If only we had real leadership when this all started....


Well this whole deal was made political right from the start. Trump downplayed it right from the beginning because he didn't want it to effect the stock market but it really wouldn't have mattered what he did. If he would have tried to lockdown the press and Democrats would have had a field day with him. Pelosi and DeBlasio telling everyone to come visit Chinatown and New York and Fauci telling everyone not to wear masks this all happened early on. Fauci is up to wearing what 3 masks now to be safe? My fault with Trump was continuing to downplay it after we knew how deadly it was. If he would have been on board maybe some of his followers wouldn't have fought this so much. But by the same token the Democrats are taking full advantage of this crisis too to get what they want. There have been a lot of people I know that have been infected now or been vaccinated and yet CNN the COVID channel is still playing the doomsday variant theme. A CNN executive was even caught saying this virus is been great for viewership. You cannot keep giving people no hope of recovery and expect it to last. People are revolting now they are burning their masks you are now having the opposite reaction from people who were compliant before. Between vaccinations and people who have had the virus already which is far more than reported we are closer to herd immunity then ever before. Even the CDC is changing its tune. The Teachers unions are overplaying their hand too now they don't even want to go back to in person learning if they are vaccinated. People are wise to their game even Biden won't be able to back them much longer.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm

If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:07 pm

Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:08 pm

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Anyway, we went to the last county to have no covid cases and they still required masks


Just out of curiosity, which one was it? My money would've been on Harney but that's not central...
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:08 pm

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Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


The dissonance is really something, isn't it?
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:31 pm

NWAESC wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Anyway, we went to the last county to have no covid cases and they still required masks


Just out of curiosity, which one was it? My money would've been on Harney but that's not central...


Wheeler. We stayed in Bend and drove to the Fossil Bed sections. Interesting trip. And everything was open, so I don't know why people are insisting everything was closed.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:36 pm

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
LabQuest wrote:

You left out Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee. All have no mask mandates. And other states are relaxing their mandates significantly. You'll be able to go to a Broadway show in a couple weeks.

The President has no power to enforce it anyways.


Last summer, we spent a few days in central Oregon. The mask mandate was in place by Gov. Brown. People outside the I-5 corridor hated it because they believed (and still do) that Gov. Brown hates everyone outside the valley and hates all men, for some reason. Anyway, we went to the last county to have no covid cases and they still required masks. As much as they hated Gov.; Brown, they still told everyone to mask up while inside. Self preservation or not, we are still living our lives, just with masks on. Infection rates are lower and we still live our lives.

I don't see live events like Broadway or sporting events in packed stadiums happening until at least the fall. If only we had real leadership when this all started....


Well this whole deal was made political right from the start. Trump downplayed it right from the beginning because he didn't want it to effect the stock market but it really wouldn't have mattered what he did. If he would have tried to lockdown the press and Democrats would have had a field day with him. Pelosi and DeBlasio telling everyone to come visit Chinatown and New York and Fauci telling everyone not to wear masks this all happened early on. Fauci is up to wearing what 3 masks now to be safe? My fault with Trump was continuing to downplay it after we knew how deadly it was. If he would have been on board maybe some of his followers wouldn't have fought this so much. But by the same token the Democrats are taking full advantage of this crisis too to get what they want. There have been a lot of people I know that have been infected now or been vaccinated and yet CNN the COVID channel is still playing the doomsday variant theme. A CNN executive was even caught saying this virus is been great for viewership. You cannot keep giving people no hope of recovery and expect it to last. People are revolting now they are burning their masks you are now having the opposite reaction from people who were compliant before. Between vaccinations and people who have had the virus already which is far more than reported we are closer to herd immunity then ever before. Even the CDC is changing its tune. The Teachers unions are overplaying their hand too now they don't even want to go back to in person learning if they are vaccinated. People are wise to their game even Biden won't be able to back them much longer.


You took up a lot of space to say "both sides do it" which they did not. The previous "leadership" completely shut down any science or any facts from getting out. If they had been allowed to speak, we would be much farther along than we are. If the "Defense Production Act" had been implemented, we would have more masks and vaccine much sooner. But, because there are only 15 people infected and that number would be zero tomorrow, we saw none of that.

The whole reason Pelosi and DeBlasio were asking people to come to Chinatown is because of racism from MAGA leaders. That part always seems to be left out.

Finally, let's not forget that, while CNN is reporting on things that can actually cause death to any one of us, Fox and Newsmax and OAN are freaking out and demanding we all rend our garments and cry over a toy potato.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:08 pm

Clearly there's more to it than masks rules and lockdowns because California and Florida have taken two drastically different approaches and yet their case numbers are on very similar trajectories.

Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.

Its frustrating that simply being skeptical of edicts from scientific or medical “experts” automatically causes one to be labeled as “anti-science.” Sadly, there's now an entrenched narrative that the experts are not be questioned and that there is only one side to the story. One needs to look no further than the famous Dr. Anthony Fauci to see why this is dangerous and misguided. Remember when he initially dismissed the effectiveness of masks against the virus, and then months later, after masks became widespread, laughably claimed that he lied to protect supply? Or there was his more recent claim that the Super Bowl would act as a “super spreader” around the country.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:57 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.

It is probably also a good bet that science created the virulent strain of the virus, science of aviation also allowed it to spread so rapidly to all corners of the globe, unfortunately, science is not working on a way to mathematically eliminate all the debt and loss of income that the world is suffering.
Science, damn if you clean up your mess with a vaccine, damn if you don't.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:58 pm

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If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.

As it has been so eloquently put by another already “having individual geographies deciding masks aren’t needed is like have ‘pissing allowed’ area in a swimming pool”

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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:10 pm

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If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.

Really? Is that why my area (LA County) just put out a warning about staying vigilant about covid as infected tourists may be coming in?
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:16 pm

slider wrote:
If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.

That's not liberty. That's being self serving narcissist trash.

But pro life of kourz. :roll:

flipdewaf wrote:
slider wrote:
If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.

As it has been so eloquently put by another already “having individual geographies deciding masks aren’t needed is like have ‘pissing allowed’ area in a swimming pool”

Fred

Yabbut if mouth breathers can't spray their freedom on frontline workers who have no choice but to risk it, then the baby white Jesus cries "soshulizm!".
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:19 pm

I have said similar regarding California: If you don't like it's politics or policies then you don't have to come here. People are free to do as they wish. They only thing is when another states creates a dangerous situation for other states. And that is not usually known until times passes. Don't like it but it is reality.

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Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:28 pm

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I have said similar regarding California: If you don't like it's politics or policies then you don't have to come here. People are free to do as they wish. They only thing is when another states creates a dangerous situation for other states. And that is not usually known until times passes. Don't like it but it is reality.

Tugg

Why are you assuming people are "coming here"? The vast majority of people that are harmed by things like this are local citizens, who have no choice in the matter, particularly if their livelihood depends on interacting with the maskless hordes.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:43 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
Tugger wrote:
I have said similar regarding California: If you don't like it's politics or policies then you don't have to come here. People are free to do as they wish. They only thing is when another states creates a dangerous situation for other states. And that is not usually known until times passes. Don't like it but it is reality.

Tugg

Why are you assuming people are "coming here"? The vast majority of people that are harmed by things like this are local citizens, who have no choice in the matter, particularly if their livelihood depends on interacting with the maskless hordes.

I am not. I am simply saying that "if you don't like you don't have to be here" is a decent if simplistic response to those that do not live in a particular place. I live in Cali, I can't stand the many comments about how much "California sucks!" by people that don't live here. I get it, fine go on and do your own thing, California will be fine thankyouverymuch. We'll live here and pay and vote and do what is needed to stay the dynamic state we are.

I think lifting the mask mandate at this moment is a poor decision but I get that quite a few states never had one and others only reluctantly. I can comment but equally someone there can tell "Great, don't come here." and I think that is a fair response. EXCEPT if what you do endangers other states/regions. But we often don't know what that "danger" is.

Wyoming has 4 million people and less traveled that many other states (in the bottom half) so we will see.

Tugg
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:46 pm

slider wrote:
If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.



Expect then anti maskers in places like WY and TX are traveling to pro science and mask states and don't wear masks. I see it all the time in CO. People from WY and TX come here to ski and do not follow public health orders. If that is the case then they should stay in their states to not take our liberty to follow science in other states.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:58 pm

Tugger wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Tugger wrote:
I have said similar regarding California: If you don't like it's politics or policies then you don't have to come here. People are free to do as they wish. They only thing is when another states creates a dangerous situation for other states. And that is not usually known until times passes. Don't like it but it is reality.

Tugg

Why are you assuming people are "coming here"? The vast majority of people that are harmed by things like this are local citizens, who have no choice in the matter, particularly if their livelihood depends on interacting with the maskless hordes.

I am not. I am simply saying that "if you don't like you don't have to be here" is a decent if simplistic response to those that do not live in a particular place. I live in Cali, I can't stand the many comments about how much "California sucks!" by people that don't live here. I get it, fine go on and do your own thing, California will be fine thankyouverymuch. We'll live here and pay and vote and do what is needed to stay the dynamic state we are.

I think lifting the mask mandate at this moment is a poor decision but I get that quite a few states never had one and others only reluctantly. I can comment but equally someone there can tell "Great, don't come here." and I think that is a fair response. EXCEPT if what you do endangers other states/regions. But we often don't know what that "danger" is.

Wyoming has 4 million people and less traveled that many other states (in the bottom half) so we will see.

Tugg


Don't worry about folks making comments about California. In-fact, I take it as a bit of a compliment in that it is nothing more than pure envy, which is also the driving force behind most republican issues with the left.
 
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Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:15 pm

SL1200MK2 wrote:
Tugger wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Why are you assuming people are "coming here"? The vast majority of people that are harmed by things like this are local citizens, who have no choice in the matter, particularly if their livelihood depends on interacting with the maskless hordes.

I am not. I am simply saying that "if you don't like you don't have to be here" is a decent if simplistic response to those that do not live in a particular place. I live in Cali, I can't stand the many comments about how much "California sucks!" by people that don't live here. I get it, fine go on and do your own thing, California will be fine thankyouverymuch. We'll live here and pay and vote and do what is needed to stay the dynamic state we are.

I think lifting the mask mandate at this moment is a poor decision but I get that quite a few states never had one and others only reluctantly. I can comment but equally someone there can tell "Great, don't come here." and I think that is a fair response. EXCEPT if what you do endangers other states/regions. But we often don't know what that "danger" is.

Wyoming has 4 million people and less traveled that many other states (in the bottom half) so we will see.

Tugg


Don't worry about folks making comments about California. In-fact, I take it as a bit of a compliment in that it is nothing more than pure envy, which is also the driving force behind most republican issues with the left.

:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: They sure ain't flocking to the economic miracle of the bible belt to live their best lives now
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:37 pm

Tugger wrote:
...

Wyoming has 4 million people and less traveled that many other states (in the bottom half) so we will see.

Tugg


Isn't Yellowstone National Park #1??

I am not sure why states are in this race to bottom. It could be economy or CDC's science based flip-flops.

BTW, not be outdone by Oprah, Meghan and Harry, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky announced fully vaccinated people can gather without masks.
https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-va ... 9447e49917
 
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Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:05 am

mke717spotter wrote:
Its frustrating that simply being skeptical of edicts from scientific or medical “experts” automatically causes one to be labeled as “anti-science.” Sadly, there's now an entrenched narrative that the experts are not be questioned and that there is only one side to the story.


That's because most of the skepticism isn't coming from a place of academic rigor. It's coming from hot takes on Facebook.

seb146 wrote:
Wheeler. We stayed in Bend and drove to the Fossil Bed sections. Interesting trip. And everything was open, so I don't know why people are insisting everything was closed.


Awesome. I love it out there. Glad you were able to go!
 
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Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:12 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


Nothing scientific has shown that masks reduced the spread of COVID. Theater
 
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Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:27 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


Nothing scientific has shown that masks reduced the spread of COVID. Theater


Ah yah? Got a consensus of peer reviewed papers saying just that? Let’s see’ em.

HK:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335167/?dopt=Abstract

US states:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.13 ... 2020.00818

American Journal of Tropical Medicine:
https://www.ajtmh.org/view/journals/tpm ... -p2400.xml

Nature on outward expulsion of aerosols
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7

Nature on mask efficacy
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591- ... hs-mYZlXcg

For good measure, Goldman Sachs:
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/p ... d-gdp.html
 
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Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:33 am

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Well this whole deal was made political right from the start. Trump downplayed it right from the beginning because he didn't want it to effect the stock market but it really wouldn't have mattered what he did. If he would have tried to lockdown the press and Democrats would have had a field day with him. Pelosi and DeBlasio telling everyone to come visit Chinatown and New York and Fauci telling everyone not to wear masks this all happened early on. Fauci is up to wearing what 3 masks now to be safe? My fault with Trump was continuing to downplay it after we knew how deadly it was. If he would have been on board maybe some of his followers wouldn't have fought this so much. But by the same token the Democrats are taking full advantage of this crisis too to get what they want. There have been a lot of people I know that have been infected now or been vaccinated and yet CNN the COVID channel is still playing the doomsday variant theme. A CNN executive was even caught saying this virus is been great for viewership. You cannot keep giving people no hope of recovery and expect it to last. People are revolting now they are burning their masks you are now having the opposite reaction from people who were compliant before. Between vaccinations and people who have had the virus already which is far more than reported we are closer to herd immunity then ever before. Even the CDC is changing its tune. The Teachers unions are overplaying their hand too now they don't even want to go back to in person learning if they are vaccinated. People are wise to their game even Biden won't be able to back them much longer.


This pretty much sums it up
 
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GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


Nothing scientific has shown that masks reduced the spread of COVID. Theater


Search NHK World(Japan) and DW News (Germany).
 
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NIKV69 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
Well this whole deal was made political right from the start. Trump downplayed it right from the beginning because he didn't want it to effect the stock market but it really wouldn't have mattered what he did. If he would have tried to lockdown the press and Democrats would have had a field day with him. Pelosi and DeBlasio telling everyone to come visit Chinatown and New York and Fauci telling everyone not to wear masks this all happened early on. Fauci is up to wearing what 3 masks now to be safe? My fault with Trump was continuing to downplay it after we knew how deadly it was. If he would have been on board maybe some of his followers wouldn't have fought this so much. But by the same token the Democrats are taking full advantage of this crisis too to get what they want. There have been a lot of people I know that have been infected now or been vaccinated and yet CNN the COVID channel is still playing the doomsday variant theme. A CNN executive was even caught saying this virus is been great for viewership. You cannot keep giving people no hope of recovery and expect it to last. People are revolting now they are burning their masks you are now having the opposite reaction from people who were compliant before. Between vaccinations and people who have had the virus already which is far more than reported we are closer to herd immunity then ever before. Even the CDC is changing its tune. The Teachers unions are overplaying their hand too now they don't even want to go back to in person learning if they are vaccinated. People are wise to their game even Biden won't be able to back them much longer.


This pretty much sums it up


The political reality and epidemiological one are not the same. Through a combination of negative factors, America ended up middle of the pack on this, when we have the ability and know-how to be a fucking global leader.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:12 am

Aaron747 wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


Nothing scientific has shown that masks reduced the spread of COVID. Theater


Ah yah? Got a consensus of peer reviewed papers saying just that? Let’s see’ em.

HK:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335167/?dopt=Abstract

US states:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.13 ... 2020.00818

American Journal of Tropical Medicine:
https://www.ajtmh.org/view/journals/tpm ... -p2400.xml

Nature on outward expulsion of aerosols
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7

Nature on mask efficacy
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591- ... hs-mYZlXcg

For good measure, Goldman Sachs:
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/p ... d-gdp.html


There are peer reviewed papers and there are peer reviewed papers. Not every one is created equal. Did you read any of the above? I read the first two and then stopped when I saw it was a waste of my time. The first one's conclusion is "Community-wide mask wearing may contribute to the control of COVID-19 by reducing the amount of emission of infected saliva and respiratory droplets from individuals with subclinical or mild COVID-19. " You will not the key word here MAY. Not does, not probably, not we think. It MAY. Second "paper" I stopped counting the word "estimate" after I got to thirty. A paper that is based on that many estimates is nothing more than a theory. I stopped reading your "papers" there. BTW, Goldman Sachs is not in the business of publishing scientific papers.

I often find those spouting "the science" generally have no clue what science really is all about. Just because it's peer reviewed doesn't mean can't be garbage or it's conclusions wishy washy.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:35 am

bobinthecar wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:

Nothing scientific has shown that masks reduced the spread of COVID. Theater


Ah yah? Got a consensus of peer reviewed papers saying just that? Let’s see’ em.

HK:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335167/?dopt=Abstract

US states:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.13 ... 2020.00818

American Journal of Tropical Medicine:
https://www.ajtmh.org/view/journals/tpm ... -p2400.xml

Nature on outward expulsion of aerosols
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7

Nature on mask efficacy
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591- ... hs-mYZlXcg

For good measure, Goldman Sachs:
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/p ... d-gdp.html


There are peer reviewed papers and there are peer reviewed papers. Not every one is created equal. Did you read any of the above? I read the first two and then stopped when I saw it was a waste of my time. The first one's conclusion is "Community-wide mask wearing may contribute to the control of COVID-19 by reducing the amount of emission of infected saliva and respiratory droplets from individuals with subclinical or mild COVID-19. " You will not the key word here MAY. Not does, not probably, not we think. It MAY. Second "paper" I stopped counting the word "estimate" after I got to thirty. A paper that is based on that many estimates is nothing more than a theory. I stopped reading your "papers" there. BTW, Goldman Sachs is not in the business of publishing scientific papers.

I often find those spouting "the science" generally have no clue what science really is all about. Just because it's peer reviewed doesn't mean can't be garbage or it's conclusions wishy washy.


Impressed that you actually bothered clicking on them - I was more making a point to GF who rarely, if ever sources any of his conclusive statements on non-aviation topics.

Since you bothered to look, I randomly selected those citations from reference notes in an evidence review analysis seeking to quantify the value of mask use given that COVID has not provided much opportunity for randomized controlled trials of mask efficacy:

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

The curators represent various institutions, including some of the best in the US, Europe, and China. Their conclusion, after reviewing more than 150 papers:

The available evidence suggests that near-universal adoption of nonmedical masks when out in public, in combination with complementary public health measures, could successfully reduce Re to below 1, thereby reducing community spread if such measures are sustained. Economic analysis suggests that mask wearing mandates could add 1 trillion dollars to the US GDP (32, 34).

Models suggest that public mask wearing is most effective at reducing spread of the virus when compliance is high (39). We recommend that mask use requirements are implemented by governments, or, when governments do not, by organizations that provide public-facing services. Such mandates must be accompanied by measures to ensure access to masks, possibly including distribution and rationing mechanisms so that they do not become discriminatory. Given the value of the source control principle, especially for presymptomatic people, it is not sufficient for only employees to wear masks; customers must wear masks as well.

It is also important for health authorities to provide clear guidelines for the production, use, and sanitization or reuse of face masks, and consider their distribution as shortages allow. Clear and implementable guidelines can help increase compliance, and bring communities closer to the goal of reducing and ultimately stopping the spread of COVID-19.


The GS analysis was thrown in as a bonus since their focus was forecasting GDP impact from mask/no-mask scenarios. They are not in the business of scientific healthcare papers, but they ARE in the business of informed multivariate economic forecasting.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:52 am

NIKV69 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
Well this whole deal was made political right from the start. Trump downplayed it right from the beginning because he didn't want it to effect the stock market but it really wouldn't have mattered what he did. If he would have tried to lockdown the press and Democrats would have had a field day with him. Pelosi and DeBlasio telling everyone to come visit Chinatown and New York and Fauci telling everyone not to wear masks this all happened early on. Fauci is up to wearing what 3 masks now to be safe? My fault with Trump was continuing to downplay it after we knew how deadly it was. If he would have been on board maybe some of his followers wouldn't have fought this so much. But by the same token the Democrats are taking full advantage of this crisis too to get what they want. There have been a lot of people I know that have been infected now or been vaccinated and yet CNN the COVID channel is still playing the doomsday variant theme. A CNN executive was even caught saying this virus is been great for viewership. You cannot keep giving people no hope of recovery and expect it to last. People are revolting now they are burning their masks you are now having the opposite reaction from people who were compliant before. Between vaccinations and people who have had the virus already which is far more than reported we are closer to herd immunity then ever before. Even the CDC is changing its tune. The Teachers unions are overplaying their hand too now they don't even want to go back to in person learning if they are vaccinated. People are wise to their game even Biden won't be able to back them much longer.


This pretty much sums it up


The MAGAs said it was fake, science said it is real, Democrats sided with science and it is now politicized so Democrats are bad. Again. Anything to make Democrats look bad. Like they back science and facts.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:17 am

Aaron747 wrote:
The political reality and epidemiological one are not the same. Through a combination of negative factors, America ended up middle of the pack on this, when we have the ability and know-how to be a fucking global leader.


Just noting that the only comparable measure by which the USA could be considered "middle of the pack" is on its testing rate, although vaccination rollout appears to be going OK. It's very much in the 10 worst on infection and death rates, based on available data.

But it is very true that the USA actually had forewarning and resources for the outcome to have been very different.

I'm personally not firmly wedded to mask mandates where there is a general community acceptance that they are a worthwhile infection control measure. My own jurisdiction adopted one more to align with the rest of the country than due to infection risk, but there is no question that increasing the rate of mask wearing has greatly simplified measures such as tracking possible infection spread.

I wasn't wedded to it, but it's helped us be Covid free for almost two months now. It seems that an increasing number of US states are putting all their eggs in the vaccination basket.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:35 am

slider wrote:
If you don't like it, don't travel to WY.

See? Problem solved. Everyone wins with liberty.

only if the people of WY dont travel to other states that take the pandemic seriously and wear masks.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:09 pm

seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
Well this whole deal was made political right from the start. Trump downplayed it right from the beginning because he didn't want it to effect the stock market but it really wouldn't have mattered what he did. If he would have tried to lockdown the press and Democrats would have had a field day with him. Pelosi and DeBlasio telling everyone to come visit Chinatown and New York and Fauci telling everyone not to wear masks this all happened early on. Fauci is up to wearing what 3 masks now to be safe? My fault with Trump was continuing to downplay it after we knew how deadly it was. If he would have been on board maybe some of his followers wouldn't have fought this so much. But by the same token the Democrats are taking full advantage of this crisis too to get what they want. There have been a lot of people I know that have been infected now or been vaccinated and yet CNN the COVID channel is still playing the doomsday variant theme. A CNN executive was even caught saying this virus is been great for viewership. You cannot keep giving people no hope of recovery and expect it to last. People are revolting now they are burning their masks you are now having the opposite reaction from people who were compliant before. Between vaccinations and people who have had the virus already which is far more than reported we are closer to herd immunity then ever before. Even the CDC is changing its tune. The Teachers unions are overplaying their hand too now they don't even want to go back to in person learning if they are vaccinated. People are wise to their game even Biden won't be able to back them much longer.


This pretty much sums it up


The MAGAs said it was fake, science said it is real, Democrats sided with science and it is now politicized so Democrats are bad. Again. Anything to make Democrats look bad. Like they back science and facts.


Democrats sided with what they knew would help them win and get Trump out of office. Now Trump is out and they just passed a 1.9 trillion dollar pork chop disguised as a COVID relief bill. Sure there are good things in it they made sure 80% of people got some kind of check so naturally it would have a high approval rating but a lot of it is not COIVD related. Bailing out the Teamsters pension is not COVID relief. Bailing out cities who where in the red most all of them Democratic from bad management is not COVID relief. A bridge to Canada and a Silicon Valley rail system is not COVID relief. Money to pay off the debt of farmers but only black farmers what is that reparations? The goal posts of this so called science changes daily but unlike the MAGAs I knew the virus was real and dangerous. I wear my mask and already got my first shot 2 weeks ago. I faulted Trump for his attitude and creating a atmosphere of distrust but you have tunnel vision. I see how both sides failed that's why no one got my vote in 2020. I know how you despise the both sides do it but they do. They both want only one thing and that is to stay in power and nothing more. Republicans ran up the debt and the Democrats ran up the debt on steroids just wait til the next one comes the infrastructure and climate change bill. At least if they are going to send our debt to the moon I hope at least infrastructure actually gets accomplished unlike the decades both parties talked about it threw money at it but never did it.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:12 pm

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

This pretty much sums it up


The MAGAs said it was fake, science said it is real, Democrats sided with science and it is now politicized so Democrats are bad. Again. Anything to make Democrats look bad. Like they back science and facts.


Democrats sided with what they knew would help them win and get Trump out of office. Now Trump is out and they just passed a 1.9 trillion dollar pork chop disguised as a COVID relief bill.

It has over 70%+ approval rating including the vast majority of republicans. The DJIA has hit new highs several days in a row and the bond auction earlier this week didn't even flinch. Didn't even bother reading the rest of your whining because it's guaranteed to be more pointless than sticking up for racist cartoons for weeks on end.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:42 pm

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

This pretty much sums it up


The MAGAs said it was fake, science said it is real, Democrats sided with science and it is now politicized so Democrats are bad. Again. Anything to make Democrats look bad. Like they back science and facts.


Democrats sided with what they knew would help them win and get Trump out of office. Now Trump is out and they just passed a 1.9 trillion dollar pork chop disguised as a COVID relief bill. Sure there are good things in it they made sure 80% of people got some kind of check so naturally it would have a high approval rating but a lot of it is not COIVD related. Bailing out the Teamsters pension is not COVID relief. Bailing out cities who where in the red most all of them Democratic from bad management is not COVID relief. A bridge to Canada and a Silicon Valley rail system is not COVID relief. Money to pay off the debt of farmers but only black farmers what is that reparations? The goal posts of this so called science changes daily but unlike the MAGAs I knew the virus was real and dangerous. I wear my mask and already got my first shot 2 weeks ago. I faulted Trump for his attitude and creating a atmosphere of distrust but you have tunnel vision. I see how both sides failed that's why no one got my vote in 2020. I know how you despise the both sides do it but they do. They both want only one thing and that is to stay in power and nothing more. Republicans ran up the debt and the Democrats ran up the debt on steroids just wait til the next one comes the infrastructure and climate change bill. At least if they are going to send our debt to the moon I hope at least infrastructure actually gets accomplished unlike the decades both parties talked about it threw money at it but never did it.


Most of what you are complaining about was taken out. But, what is wrong with creating jobs? Bridge work and extending the BART line will create jobs. We were told this pandemic was nothing to worry about . That it would go away in a week. Here we are, a year later and counting and over 550,000 dead Americans and counting but, yeah, both sides. Republicans gave us a pittance while giving the very wealthy even more. Republicans ran up the debt and deficit and those same Republicans claim to be fiscally responsible while blaming Democrats. There was poor management from MAGA the entire four years he was in office. He took credit on his own for perceived successes and blamed Democrats for any losses. Both sides do it. Except Biden speaks in "we" for both successes and failures. WE will get through this. WE will end the pandemic. Not "I" as the twice impeached former president said. But both sides do it.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:46 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


It’d be nice if there were any studies proving masks really bent the infection curves. Lots of mandates in the fall, just as the rates skyrocketed.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:49 am

seb146 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:

The MAGAs said it was fake, science said it is real, Democrats sided with science and it is now politicized so Democrats are bad. Again. Anything to make Democrats look bad. Like they back science and facts.


Democrats sided with what they knew would help them win and get Trump out of office. Now Trump is out and they just passed a 1.9 trillion dollar pork chop disguised as a COVID relief bill. Sure there are good things in it they made sure 80% of people got some kind of check so naturally it would have a high approval rating but a lot of it is not COIVD related. Bailing out the Teamsters pension is not COVID relief. Bailing out cities who where in the red most all of them Democratic from bad management is not COVID relief. A bridge to Canada and a Silicon Valley rail system is not COVID relief. Money to pay off the debt of farmers but only black farmers what is that reparations? The goal posts of this so called science changes daily but unlike the MAGAs I knew the virus was real and dangerous. I wear my mask and already got my first shot 2 weeks ago. I faulted Trump for his attitude and creating a atmosphere of distrust but you have tunnel vision. I see how both sides failed that's why no one got my vote in 2020. I know how you despise the both sidesn do it but they do. They both want only one thing and that is to stay in power and nothing more. Republicans ran up the debt and the Democrats ran up the debt on steroids just wait til the next one comes the infrastructure and climate change bill. At least if they are going to send our debt to the moon I hope at least infrastructure actually gets accomplished unlike the decades both parties talked about it threw money at it but never did it.


Most of what you are complaining about was taken out. But, what is wrong with creating jobs? Bridge work and extending the BART line will create jobs. We were told this pandemic was nothing to worry about . That it would go away in a week. Here we are, a year later and counting and over 550,000 dead Americans and counting but, yeah, both sides. Republicans gave us a pittance while giving the very wealthy even more. Republicans ran up the debt and deficit and those same Republicans claim to be fiscally responsible while blaming Democrats. There was poor management from MAGA the entire four years he was in office. He took credit on his own for perceived successes and blamed Democrats for any losses. Both sides do it. Except Biden speaks in "we" for both successes and failures. WE will get through this. WE will end the pandemic. Not "I" as the twice impeached former president said. But both sides do it.


He might use “we” as a rhetorical tic, but Joe hasn’t made one compromise other than with his own past record to bend with the worst of the progressive wing. He’d much rather pass bills 51-50 than compromise. That’s if he knows what is happening and not dozing. When’s he gonna meet the press?
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:58 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Amazing that so many here defend this anti-science, anti-expertise mindset when science and engineering brought into being the machines this site pays homage to.


It’d be nice if there were any studies proving masks really bent the infection curves. Lots of mandates in the fall, just as the rates skyrocketed.


The takeaway from that is compliance was not high enough during the travel/dining blitz. As indicated in the UT survey of studies conclusion italicized a few posts up.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:05 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
seb146 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:

Democrats sided with what they knew would help them win and get Trump out of office. Now Trump is out and they just passed a 1.9 trillion dollar pork chop disguised as a COVID relief bill. Sure there are good things in it they made sure 80% of people got some kind of check so naturally it would have a high approval rating but a lot of it is not COIVD related. Bailing out the Teamsters pension is not COVID relief. Bailing out cities who where in the red most all of them Democratic from bad management is not COVID relief. A bridge to Canada and a Silicon Valley rail system is not COVID relief. Money to pay off the debt of farmers but only black farmers what is that reparations? The goal posts of this so called science changes daily but unlike the MAGAs I knew the virus was real and dangerous. I wear my mask and already got my first shot 2 weeks ago. I faulted Trump for his attitude and creating a atmosphere of distrust but you have tunnel vision. I see how both sides failed that's why no one got my vote in 2020. I know how you despise the both sidesn do it but they do. They both want only one thing and that is to stay in power and nothing more. Republicans ran up the debt and the Democrats ran up the debt on steroids just wait til the next one comes the infrastructure and climate change bill. At least if they are going to send our debt to the moon I hope at least infrastructure actually gets accomplished unlike the decades both parties talked about it threw money at it but never did it.


Most of what you are complaining about was taken out. But, what is wrong with creating jobs? Bridge work and extending the BART line will create jobs. We were told this pandemic was nothing to worry about . That it would go away in a week. Here we are, a year later and counting and over 550,000 dead Americans and counting but, yeah, both sides. Republicans gave us a pittance while giving the very wealthy even more. Republicans ran up the debt and deficit and those same Republicans claim to be fiscally responsible while blaming Democrats. There was poor management from MAGA the entire four years he was in office. He took credit on his own for perceived successes and blamed Democrats for any losses. Both sides do it. Except Biden speaks in "we" for both successes and failures. WE will get through this. WE will end the pandemic. Not "I" as the twice impeached former president said. But both sides do it.


He might use “we” as a rhetorical tic, but Joe hasn’t made one compromise other than with his own past record to bend with the worst of the progressive wing. He’d much rather pass bills 51-50 than compromise. That’s if he knows what is happening and not dozing. When’s he gonna meet the press?


I thought "both sides do it" was a good thing? Republicans did not give one eff when they didn't compromise. Compromise is for the weak, remember? That is what YOUR party said. That is what the self proclaimed "patriots" in the Republican party said. Now, suddenly, compromise is what we must do. huh.....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-pres ... -march-25/

President Biden will hold a press conference on March 25. How many had the one term golfer in chief held by this time in his presidency?
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Fauci has been all over the place with the mask. I am glad Wyoming is doing what makes sense for Wyoming’s.
 
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Re: Mask Mandate in Wyoming Lifted

Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:39 pm

KlimaBXsst wrote:
Fauci has been all over the place with the mask. I am glad Wyoming is doing what makes sense for Wyoming’s.


It’s Wyomingian or Wyomingite. Sounds like you’re hardly in a position to be challenging one of the nation’s top epidemiologists.

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