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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:03 pm

The extreme hurricane in Puerto Rico destroyed a number of wind turbines. Collateral damage and cleanup costs. Trivial.
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:38 pm

Revelation wrote:
kalvado wrote:
maybe yes, maybe no.
Nuclear wastes are treated with a lot of respect; possibly more than they actually deserve, just out of abundance of caution. Chernobyl proved that residual radiation doses are not as bad as believed by safety people. We just prefer to play it safe until we understand things better.
Carbon fiber is treated with no respect at all. It may become next asbestos after some time.
There were lots of situations where lack of respect to possible long term effects caused - and still causes - problems. Polychlorinated biphenyls in Hudson river is the one I would mention since it is basically next door thing for me. There are tons and tons of similar situations all over the globe.

THis is, IMHO, not unlike GMO fear of unknown new technology vs very relaxed attitude towards traditional cultivars... New is scary, old is OK.

You are acting as if pollution from radioactive waste is a solved problem (it isn't) and pollution from carbon fiber is an unsolvable problem (it isn't).

Well, again - massive contamination events are not unique to nuclear industry. Since we're talking about energy, coal ash comes to mind:
https://appvoices.org/coalash/disasters/
There are no 100% clean technologies. Is carbon fiber pollution solvable? Yes, of course. Would it be solved for a reasonable price? Who knows. We cannot keep our plastic bags from being all over the place - and that is, generally speaking, something that shouldn't be a problem to begin with.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:08 pm

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Well, again - massive contamination events are not unique to nuclear industry. Since we're talking about energy, coal ash comes to mind:
https://appvoices.org/coalash/disasters/
There are no 100% clean technologies. Is carbon fiber pollution solvable? Yes, of course. Would it be solved for a reasonable price? Who knows. We cannot keep our plastic bags from being all over the place - and that is, generally speaking, something that shouldn't be a problem to begin with.

Coal ash, oil spill can be dealt with on the scale of a decade of so.

Nuclear accident impact is on the scale of centuries/millennia.

Respiratory ailments far more treatable than cancer.
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:18 pm

Revelation wrote:
kalvado wrote:
Well, again - massive contamination events are not unique to nuclear industry. Since we're talking about energy, coal ash comes to mind:
https://appvoices.org/coalash/disasters/
There are no 100% clean technologies. Is carbon fiber pollution solvable? Yes, of course. Would it be solved for a reasonable price? Who knows. We cannot keep our plastic bags from being all over the place - and that is, generally speaking, something that shouldn't be a problem to begin with.

Coal ash, oil spill can be dealt with on the scale of a decade of so.

Nuclear accident impact is on the scale of centuries/millennia.

Respiratory ailments far more treatable than cancer.

Oh well, there is so much interesting stuff here...
1. There is only a single type of cancer with statistically significant increase in Chernobyl area - that is thyroid cancer, which has a 98% survival rate, and is explicitly connected to the exposure during first few days after the accident. Other types of cancer are below statistically significant levels
2. Lung fibrosis may be a manageable condition, but not treatable at all.
3. Totally unexpected, exclusion zones for both Chernobyl and Fukushima became wildlife heavens: https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/s ... n-wildlife
This is a great experiment studying influence of low radiation doses on mammals - and they seem to be doing pretty good. While there may definitely be health issues in those animals, those exclusion zones are not burnt land, they are thriving wildlife conservation areas. If anything, it may be a good idea to keep things as-is, with radiation keeping humans away.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:16 pm

But.
it.
Doesn't.

Nuclear is the least deadly power source per kWh produced.

That is including Tchernobyl and the Fukushima non-event.

Both of those was bad to the theoretical maximum.

there you have the only answer you need.

Again. Check the estimated death toll if something similar was to happen with the three gorges dam.

check it, and dare come back afterwards spewing more nonsense about the dangers of nuclear power.

Revelation wrote:
kalvado wrote:
Honestly speaking, whatever energy source - or industry in general - we consider, there is a real possibility of long term consequences.
Hydrocarbons cause climate change, hydro changes rivers ecosystems, carbon fibers from wind turbine blade may end up in lungs over millennia...
"leave no trace" is a nice idea, but probably more difficult than it sounds.

If you want to look at it that way, the sun will go supernova in four or five billion years so in the end we will leave no trace.

In the mean time, again, the key difference is one form of energy can take dozens of square miles of earth and render it useless for centuries if not millennia based on one otherwise normal event, such as a human error or an earthquake.

It's odd to see disposal of nuclear waste equated to disposal of wind turbine blades, the disposal challenges are very different.

Truly a false equivalence in my book.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:53 pm

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Right, but that only applies to nuclear facilities built in areas that are less than suitable. Japan obviously does not have much of a choice where to build their facilities given their geography, but the vast majority of plants are not built in tsunami zones.

It seems the real issue here is the fact that the plant was not adequately shielded from the environment, as opposed to what the anti-nuclear people try to hype up which is the environment was not adequately shielded from the plant.

Since nuclear can be made safe, there should be no problem to find somebody to insure it.
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:21 am

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Since nuclear can be made safe, there should be no problem to find somebody to insure it.


Gets you a Sh*tstorm like in the bible.

Tell that to the acolytes of the Green religion. :-)
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:40 pm

Existing generations of commercial nuclear plants need a lot of water for cooling, and water is expensive to pump up hill . Hence most plants are positioned fairly close to oceans or rivers. This may not be true of next generation plants. Another odd problem is nuclear plants have come in essentially one size 1+ gigawatts. That is often too much power for the local grids. Utilities would be more apt to order plants that did not rely on so much water and that came in 300 megawatt units, as well as failsafe physics and systems.
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:50 pm

frmrCapCadet wrote:
Existing generations of commercial nuclear plants need a lot of water for cooling, and water is expensive to pump up hill . Hence most plants are positioned fairly close to oceans or rivers. This may not be true of next generation plants. Another odd problem is nuclear plants have come in essentially one size 1+ gigawatts. That is often too much power for the local grids. Utilities would be more apt to order plants that did not rely on so much water and that came in 300 megawatt units, as well as failsafe physics and systems.

Aren't there some smaller units in South China Sea or Russia Arctic Islands already?
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:23 pm

c933103 wrote:
frmrCapCadet wrote:
Existing generations of commercial nuclear plants need a lot of water for cooling, and water is expensive to pump up hill . Hence most plants are positioned fairly close to oceans or rivers. This may not be true of next generation plants. Another odd problem is nuclear plants have come in essentially one size 1+ gigawatts. That is often too much power for the local grids. Utilities would be more apt to order plants that did not rely on so much water and that came in 300 megawatt units, as well as failsafe physics and systems.

Aren't there some smaller units in South China Sea or Russia Arctic Islands already?


efficiency is about 30..35% ( So, in any case ~2 times the electric output has to be "flushed away".
_you can_ use some waste heat for heating applications : housing, greenhouses, ... )

A 300MW station would have about the same cost as a 1GW installation. ( Fuel cost is negligible for nuclear power.)

1+GW too much for your grid? Fix your grid. added benefit : less blackouts. :-)

The Soviets ( and apparently the US too ) used RTG sources
for lowish power applications in the arctic: measurement equipment, light houses ..
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisot ... errestrial
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:38 pm

It seems nobody saw Fukushima 50 here, the movie more or less tells what happened in Fukushima.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9318772/

If people see that, then I am guessing lot of misunderstanding would be cleared up, i.e. if people are not into trolling or whatever.

And just sharing the tales of Hibakusha because you cannot just talk of nuclear power and then not talk of nuclear weapons as well and what happened with the Japanese survivors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:44 pm

pune wrote:
And just sharing the tales of Hibakusha because you cannot just talk of nuclear power and then not talk of nuclear weapons as well and what happened with the Japanese survivors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha

Isn't it one of the problem faced by nuclear power? As in, in nuckear accident like the Fukushima one, no one have been affected in the way like being exposed to nuclear bomb. Meanwhile, when nuclear bomb hit Japan, the clean up was quick and doesn't leave much trace on the land after reconstruction
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:54 pm

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Isn't it one of the problem faced by nuclear power? As in, in nuckear accident like the Fukushima one, no one have been affected in the way like being exposed to nuclear bomb. Meanwhile, when nuclear bomb hit Japan, the clean up was quick and doesn't leave much trace on the land after reconstruction


No one was exposed due to the 50 workers who died from nuclear radiation, the front-line workers who used their lives to save others. That is why they are called Fukushima 50 in Japan. The heroes, and that is the reason I shared that people should watch that movie to have some more understanding.

Interestingly, in the movie one of the reactors was American-made which was a source of headache for the Japanese and that was their newest one. It is quite possible that what happened may be similar to the Boeing disaster, not enough training given, not enough understanding. We would never know. The good thing is we now have the movie which gives lot of insight. It also talks of the remote superiors who didn't have enough training or knowledge of what the right thing to do after. It shows actually. That's the reason I said that people should see it, no loss by seeing and understanding what went wrong. People can have their own interpretations even after seeing the movie.

Also millions of tonnes of radioactive contaminated water was dumped and will be dumped by 2022. At least 1 million tonnes -

https://www.reuters.com/article/japan-f ... SL3N2610YV
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:20 pm

The 50 workers who died? What are you talking about?

pune wrote:
c933103 wrote:
Isn't it one of the problem faced by nuclear power? As in, in nuckear accident like the Fukushima one, no one have been affected in the way like being exposed to nuclear bomb. Meanwhile, when nuclear bomb hit Japan, the clean up was quick and doesn't leave much trace on the land after reconstruction


No one was exposed due to the 50 workers who died from nuclear radiation, the front-line workers who used their lives to save others. That is why they are called Fukushima 50 in Japan. The heroes, and that is the reason I shared that people should watch that movie to have some more understanding.

Interestingly, in the movie one of the reactors was American-made which was a source of headache for the Japanese and that was their newest one. It is quite possible that what happened may be similar to the Boeing disaster, not enough training given, not enough understanding. We would never know. The good thing is we now have the movie which gives lot of insight. It also talks of the remote superiors who didn't have enough training or knowledge of what the right thing to do after. It shows actually. That's the reason I said that people should see it, no loss by seeing and understanding what went wrong. People can have their own interpretations even after seeing the movie.

Also millions of tonnes of radioactive contaminated water was dumped and will be dumped by 2022. At least 1 million tonnes -

https://www.reuters.com/article/japan-f ... SL3N2610YV
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:32 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_50 . The actuall number was more but these were the workers from TEPCO. In the movie, they had shown that some of them have died, even on the wikipedia page it shares some info. not all. For e.g. on the wiki page it says that "Team leader Masao Yoshida died of esophageal cancer in 2013 but the cancer was likely to be unrelated to the event at Fukushima, as development typically takes 5–10 years."

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/10/worl ... index.html

Of course the company would say what is in its best interests, not the one who died. In the movie it is implied that he died because of what happened in Fukushima. As always, there is and will always be a lot of cover-up. Who knows what the actual reality is.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:17 am

There will always be made hyperbole documentaries about events like this.

Every official source, inside or outside Japan has the death toll at 0 -zero-

pune wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_50 . The actuall number was more but these were the workers from TEPCO. In the movie, they had shown that some of them have died, even on the wikipedia page it shares some info. not all. For e.g. on the wiki page it says that "Team leader Masao Yoshida died of esophageal cancer in 2013 but the cancer was likely to be unrelated to the event at Fukushima, as development typically takes 5–10 years."

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/10/worl ... index.html

Of course the company would say what is in its best interests, not the one who died. In the movie it is implied that he died because of what happened in Fukushima. As always, there is and will always be a lot of cover-up. Who knows what the actual reality is.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:46 am

And what would you say to this, from the same webpage, how can you say zero when bodies were found ?

Over 20 workers had been injured by 18 March, including one who was exposed to a large amount of ionizing radiation when the worker tried to vent vapour from a valve of the containment building.[1] Three more workers were exposed to radiation over 100 mSv, and two of them were sent to a hospital due to beta burns on 24 March.[11] Two other workers, Kazuhiko Kokubo, 24, and Yoshiki Terashima, 21, were killed by the tsunami while conducting emergency repairs immediately after the quake. Their bodies were found on 30 March

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2011/ ... ound-dead/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/ ... lear-plant
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:59 am

And adding to above, the radiation effects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation ... r_disaster

I don't really get it why people still insist it is all good when similar things have happened in UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield

Can anybody tell me of any other technology where once something goes wrong, whole area are made unhabitable for hundreds of years and the problems which are there would have to be handed down to their sons, daughters, and grandchildren to fix and even they can only do patch-up job.

That is not just the way we should be using and having technology which harms us and the environment around us.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:49 am

pune wrote:
c933103 wrote:
Isn't it one of the problem faced by nuclear power? As in, in nuckear accident like the Fukushima one, no one have been affected in the way like being exposed to nuclear bomb. Meanwhile, when nuclear bomb hit Japan, the clean up was quick and doesn't leave much trace on the land after reconstruction


No one was exposed due to the 50 workers who died from nuclear radiation, the front-line workers who used their lives to save others. That is why they are called Fukushima 50 in Japan. The heroes, and that is the reason I shared that people should watch that movie to have some more understanding.

Interestingly, in the movie one of the reactors was American-made which was a source of headache for the Japanese and that was their newest one. It is quite possible that what happened may be similar to the Boeing disaster, not enough training given, not enough understanding. We would never know. The good thing is we now have the movie which gives lot of insight. It also talks of the remote superiors who didn't have enough training or knowledge of what the right thing to do after. It shows actually. That's the reason I said that people should see it, no loss by seeing and understanding what went wrong. People can have their own interpretations even after seeing the movie.

Also millions of tonnes of radioactive contaminated water was dumped and will be dumped by 2022. At least 1 million tonnes -

https://www.reuters.com/article/japan-f ... SL3N2610YV

I am pretty sure the fifty people was the minimal amount of workers remain on site when evacuation order was being placed, not that they have died
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 am

I still watch the footage sometimes. The resulting tsunami must be some of the most incredible scenes ever filmed.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:13 am

There's just a M7.2 earthquake with a tsunami advisory near epicenter of the quake ten years ago
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:52 am

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I am pretty sure the fifty people was the minimal amount of workers remain on site when evacuation order was being placed, not that they have died


Not they remained but 'they chose to remain' there is a difference there mate. And none of them got even the hazard pay -

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-29041403

At least see the links I share.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-20707753

seems getting people to sympathize with the workers is a big deal, whether they are discriminated against or whatever happens, it is all ok, for some reason nuclear power can do no wrong even when there is so much evidence.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:07 am

Let's assume 50 people die every 10 years in nuclear power plants. How many die on roads in 10 years?
If life had to be be so valuable there should be much more money for public transport.
I hope all the people getting upset over the dangers of nuclear never break the speed limit or drive after drinking a glass of beer.
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:23 pm

I want to clarify something I posted. Japanese officials now estimate the cost of the cleanup at $78 billion. About no one believes that and the true figure may be $200 to $300 billion. The 3 melt down reactors are still to 'hot' to do much, much of the technology to do the cleanup does not yet exist. I continue to believe that the cost of do a good, as opposed to a half ass, cleanup will be about $1 trillion, about the same as a large naval aircraft carrier costs over its lifetime.
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:25 pm

frmrCapCadet wrote:
I want to clarify something I posted. Japanese officials now estimate the cost of the cleanup at $78 billion. About no one believes that and the true figure may be $200 to $300 billion. The 3 melt down reactors are still to 'hot' to do much, much of the technology to do the cleanup does not yet exist. I continue to believe that the cost of do a good, as opposed to a half ass, cleanup will be about $1 trillion, about the same as a large naval aircraft carrier costs over its lifetime.


cleanup costs will always be valued or shared as conservative figures, there is more than enough incentive built into it. It might even be more as well as time. Who knows how many years or decades would have to be spent for just the reactors, and the radioactive waste that has gone into the ocean, that is sadly not even being talked about. In fact, one is more likely to know about the plastic menace and how fish eat plastic which then gets eaten by humans but never about radioactive waste as to how it may be reacting with the ecology and the fish. I do hope somebody is looking at that as well and does get reported in the Japanese press.
 
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pune wrote:
frmrCapCadet wrote:
I want to clarify something I posted. Japanese officials now estimate the cost of the cleanup at $78 billion. About no one believes that and the true figure may be $200 to $300 billion. The 3 melt down reactors are still to 'hot' to do much, much of the technology to do the cleanup does not yet exist. I continue to believe that the cost of do a good, as opposed to a half ass, cleanup will be about $1 trillion, about the same as a large naval aircraft carrier costs over its lifetime.


cleanup costs will always be valued or shared as conservative figures, there is more than enough incentive built into it. It might even be more as well as time. Who knows how many years or decades would have to be spent for just the reactors, and the radioactive waste that has gone into the ocean, that is sadly not even being talked about. In fact, one is more likely to know about the plastic menace and how fish eat plastic which then gets eaten by humans but never about radioactive waste as to how it may be reacting with the ecology and the fish. I do hope somebody is looking at that as well and does get reported in the Japanese press.

My understanding is that radioactive discharge into water are deemed acceptable after being sufficiently diluted. The Japanese government have been planning for release of water that have been processed to release most radioactive substance, but still contain Tritium, into the ocean
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:27 pm

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My understanding is that radioactive discharge into water are deemed acceptable after being sufficiently diluted. The Japanese government have been planning for release of water that have been processed to release most radioactive substance, but still contain Tritium, into the ocean


According to the wire

https://science.thewire.in/environment/ ... ear-plant/

"The water is pumped out and treated. Storage tanks now hold enough radioactive water to fill more than 500 olympic-sized swimming pools. Tepco expects it will max out its storage space next year. Most analysts expect the government to release the water into the ocean after further treatment. Fishing communities have lobbied against that and South Korea and China have objected to such a move."

I do know there is a politicking between the three countries involved for sure, but still there seems to be many unanswered questions. For e.g. if the water is good, why not use it domestically, why release it in the ocean at all? This is not using responsibility but evading responsibility and makes it other's problems. And look at the amount of radioactive water being stored, doesn't portend well. Also amount of time both conservatively and not seems it will take a long time before this is over.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:42 pm

Dillution vs. actual amount of radiation would be the keywords here.
You mention neither.

pune wrote:
c933103 wrote:
My understanding is that radioactive discharge into water are deemed acceptable after being sufficiently diluted. The Japanese government have been planning for release of water that have been processed to release most radioactive substance, but still contain Tritium, into the ocean


According to the wire

https://science.thewire.in/environment/ ... ear-plant/

"The water is pumped out and treated. Storage tanks now hold enough radioactive water to fill more than 500 olympic-sized swimming pools. Tepco expects it will max out its storage space next year. Most analysts expect the government to release the water into the ocean after further treatment. Fishing communities have lobbied against that and South Korea and China have objected to such a move."

I do know there is a politicking between the three countries involved for sure, but still there seems to be many unanswered questions. For e.g. if the water is good, why not use it domestically, why release it in the ocean at all? This is not using responsibility but evading responsibility and makes it other's problems. And look at the amount of radioactive water being stored, doesn't portend well. Also amount of time both conservatively and not seems it will take a long time before this is over.
 
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Re: 10 Years Since Fukushima Earthquake and Nuclear Disaster

Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:58 pm

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Dillution vs. actual amount of radiation would be the keywords here.
You mention neither.


For that to matter or share, the Goverment of Japan needs to share those numbers in public domain. What I found out was this -

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/24/asia ... index.html

seems they have still not completed their studies because they are not sure how much carbon-14 and technetium-99 are in the water. The doublespeak speaks for itself, until data is not in public domain, we don't really know.

Also TEPCO has been known to be false so we can't take anything they say at face value.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

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Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos