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Updated: Sharon Osbourne leaving 'The Talk' following accusations of racism

Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:20 pm

‘The Talk’ Cancels Shows Amid Investigation Surrounding Sharon Osbourne Comments

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tal ... 09252.html

I suspect that a woman of color's rights trump any freedom of speech rights that Sharon has as a dual US/UK citizen, with Jewish heritage. (According to Wiki)
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:30 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
‘The Talk’ Cancels Shows Amid Investigation Surrounding Sharon Osbourne Comments

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tal ... 09252.html

I suspect that a woman of color's rights trump any freedom of speech rights that Sharon has as a dual US/UK citizen, with Jewish heritage. (According to Wiki)


1) There is no "Freedom of Speech" in private business
2) ViacomCBS Shareholder interesst absolutely trump any of their employees "right" to drive away advertising customers

"Lunching a probe" in the media industry pretty much means "evaluate impact on add revenue", unless a show doesn´t generate enough revenue anymore to beginn with and it can be used as a convenient out of an existing contract.

And given how the ratings crater.... https://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2021/0 ... e-is-right

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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:45 pm

She has hitched her wagon to Piers Morgan, that seems like a bad plan to me but she is free to have terrible people as friends so. I do wonder how long before Ozzy gets dragged into this.
I could understand if she wanted to avoid commenting about him based on media quotes opposed to speaking to him but from the stuff I've read she seemed to defend some rather indefensible comments and actions.
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:15 pm

What does her Jewish heritage have to do with anything? As for her defending Piers Morgan. As the saying goes.. If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
 
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:19 pm

I've seen the segment in a video from TYT. It was cringe worthy, the woman is totally clueless, and an egomaniac like Piers Morgan. It's all about her.

With that said, she didn't say anything racist and seemed genuine enough in her later apology so I don't think it's cancel material.

I'm not one to watch such shows, though, and I have really no interest in hearing anything she has to say about anything.
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:30 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
‘The Talk’ Cancels Shows Amid Investigation Surrounding Sharon Osbourne Comments

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tal ... 09252.html

I suspect that a woman of color's rights trump any freedom of speech rights that Sharon has as a dual US/UK citizen, with Jewish heritage. (According to Wiki)


No idea what you're talking about...a WOC's rights? What does this have to do with anything you said? 'The Talk' is filmed in Studio City, and CA is an at-will employment state. CBS can basically terminate Sharon anytime they want, for nearly any legal reason. There's nothing illegal about terminating someone for generating complaints.
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:50 pm

Heck Ozzy’s wife Is the only reason to be interested in the talking hens!

Sharon can do way better than that lot.
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:47 pm

Her Dad, Don Arden, was a gangster with a sideline in 'music management'.
He told the parents of the 60's British group The Small Faces (pre Rod Stewart), that he could not pay them what they earned as they were all on smack, (untrue), he used to dangle people from a window holding their ankles.
If he managed you, no matter how successful, chances are you ended up poor.

That's how his daughter got into the business, in fairness she has never denied this, she just seems to get more bizarre and generally nasty with each face lift.

Anyone else getting fed up with highly paid media types, with multiple platforms, usually over many years, always loudmouths, forever spouting on about what they don't know about for the lowest common denominator audience on platforms designed with them in mind, yet always bleating at being 'cancelled' when they cross the line?
Odd that, being all over the place, yet somehow 'cancelled'.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:42 pm

Can we just merge it with the View and cancel both? :rotfl:
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:51 pm

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What does her Jewish heritage have to do with anything? As for her defending Piers Morgan. As the saying goes.. If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.


Piers has been completely correct in his assessment of Meg, she’s a gold digger, that entire interview with Oprah was a flight of fantasy, the fact that many people particularly in the US believed what she said is remarkable.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:03 pm

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What does her Jewish heritage have to do with anything? As for her defending Piers Morgan. As the saying goes.. If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.


Piers has been completely correct in his assessment of Meg, she’s a gold digger, that entire interview with Oprah was a flight of fantasy, the fact that many people particularly in the US believed what she said is remarkable.

Then why did Piers adore her for years until 2018? And why does Harry back her? I have zero opinion on Meghan to be honest but Piers has always been gutter trash and it seems like he turned on her after meeting her once and she didn't 'put out'.
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:33 pm

If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:40 pm

One can express an opinion but how it is worded may make the difference between acceptable or not. Both Piers and Osborne made comments that in their form were seen as racist by some in their immediate audience.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:44 pm

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If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.

That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

And how is it so hard to believe that this family, which has been tabloid fodder for generations for outrageous behavior, has some...uh...quirks in terms of treatment of outsiders?
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:32 pm

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Kiwirob wrote:
If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.

That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

And how is it so hard to believe that this family, which has been tabloid fodder for generations for outrageous behavior, has some...uh...quirks in terms of treatment of outsiders?

Or the whole thing is just more controlled output for the media. Now that Willie has three kids, Harry could pretty much do what he wanted. The courting and engagement periods between the two Princes were drastically different, which makes sense. After Diana, William's choice of bride had to be seriously vetted. Harry could pretty much jump the broom with whomever he pleased.
 
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:21 am

Greg Gutfeld responds to the Cancel Culture levied at Talk Show hosts as only he can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7VHCNZdq94
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:10 am

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Greg Gutfeld responds to the Cancel Culture levied at Talk Show hosts as only he can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7VHCNZdq94

By singing to everyone he has to pee?

Honestly conservatives should just start a new show with Sharon, Chris Harrison, and racist cartoons about the monarchy and their few firing synapses would make them froth and seal clap with glee, while the adults can moveon dot org. :rotfl:
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Re: Is Sharon Osbourne about to be Cancelled??

Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:09 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Greg Gutfeld responds to the Cancel Culture levied at Talk Show hosts as only he can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7VHCNZdq94


Gutfeld cut his teeth at such illustrious publications as Men's Health and Stuff. Oh yeah, he has major credentials in political science and human resources management. GMAFB
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Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:59 am

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That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

That is incorrect. She ghosted him as soon as she met Harry. A social climber on steroids!

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Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:23 am

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If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.


Or maybe he saw how his "family" aka "the firm" treated his own mother and how they were even worse with his wife ? Are you really surprised that "royals" are totally out of touch ? Especially when the boss is almost a century old ?
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Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:44 am

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Kiwirob wrote:
If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.

That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

And how is it so hard to believe that this family, which has been tabloid fodder for generations for outrageous behavior, has some...uh...quirks in terms of treatment of outsiders?


Morgan actually met her before she met Harry, it's not hard given Harry's utter loathing of the tabloid media (which he blames in large part for his mother's death), to see what his reaction would have been at the very mention of Morgan, who himself was a tabloid editor.
Before being sacked for publishing fake pics of British troops abusing people in Iraq (that did happen later but not in these pics which were obvious fakes), as well as a share dealing scandal, Morgan was also heavily implicated in phone hacking. He claims not, however before it became a a scandal, he boasted about how easy it was to a number of people, odd that, that then says he didn't allow it as he claimed when it got serious.

When they got together Harry issued a warning to the gutter press, clearly with his Mother in mind, as well the racial dimension.
To which our wonderful tabloids responded with headlines like 'Straight Outta Compton' and 'Gangster Blood In The Royal Family'.
Harry clearly expected support from the rest of the firm and did not get it.
An audit of the press even before the wedding showed a marked bias of negative 'stories' about Meghan, compared to others, usually with a racial dimension often implied.

As for Morgan, yes he has done a hell of a job it seems holding ministers to account during Covid, so much so the government boycotted Good Morning Britain for months. Only ending when arch Covid rule breaker and general POS Cummings was finally forced to leave Downing Street.
But some perspective, the shower that is the current Cabinet consist of a bunch that not so long ago mostly would not have been selected as MP's.

Then the press get Mr Markle involved, did it not occur to them that she might have good reason not to have her deadbeat, walked out on her as a child of a father involved?
Just last week Morgan was literally yelling (as usual on this topic), on air, about how she even cut her mother out of the wedding.
Funny that, Morgan was not invited but he would have seen clearly from the broadcasts, Meghan's mother WAS there.
Either he's lying or was still seething that two years before, in his mind at least, Meghan chose Harry over him.
Never underestimate the vindictiveness of the British tabloid media.

Morgan stormed off set last week, after the Weatherman, who happens also to be mixed race, tried to calmly point out that there are two sides to this and having to listen to an endless diatribe from Morgan day after day was unsettling.
That's when Piers blew his stack.
As for Morgan, he can claim the mantle of 'free speech warrior' all he likes, he was asked to leave, not just the over 40,000 complaints to the Broadcast Regulator but also from many mental health experts and charities.
Yes he upped viewing figures but they don't want to end up in that kind of morass.

Of course, someone has to buy those rags, watch that trash, ironically it's the self proclaimed 'Royalist's who do this, as one reporter mentioned at the wedding of Harry and Meghan, she encountered one deluded old biddy who was going on about how horrible the media to the Royals, yet she had brought the three worst papers for this!

Morgan and Osborne are both domineering, egomaniac loudmouths, unless you really are dense enough to see them as some kind of warriors for truth.
As for 'The firm', well done them, they lost the most popular members to the younger generation, the main support and respect for them is with the 94 year old head of state.
 
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Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:45 pm

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MaverickM11 wrote:
That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

That is incorrect. She ghosted him as soon as she met Harry. A social climber on steroids!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2FJXQf ... teLateShow

False. They met once June 2016, and he didn't "turn" on her until two years later mid 2018. But honestly, wtf does Meghan owe a dirty old man like Piers after meeting him once? Even if she is a social climber?

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GDB wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.

That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

And how is it so hard to believe that this family, which has been tabloid fodder for generations for outrageous behavior, has some...uh...quirks in terms of treatment of outsiders?


Morgan actually met her before she met Harry, it's not hard given Harry's utter loathing of the tabloid media (which he blames in large part for his mother's death), to see what his reaction would have been at the very mention of Morgan, who himself was a tabloid editor.
Before being sacked for publishing fake pics of British troops abusing people in Iraq (that did happen later but not in these pics which were obvious fakes), as well as a share dealing scandal, Morgan was also heavily implicated in phone hacking. He claims not, however before it became a a scandal, he boasted about how easy it was to a number of people, odd that, that then says he didn't allow it as he claimed when it got serious.

When they got together Harry issued a warning to the gutter press, clearly with his Mother in mind, as well the racial dimension.
To which our wonderful tabloids responded with headlines like 'Straight Outta Compton' and 'Gangster Blood In The Royal Family'.
Harry clearly expected support from the rest of the firm and did not get it.
An audit of the press even before the wedding showed a marked bias of negative 'stories' about Meghan, compared to others, usually with a racial dimension often implied.

As for Morgan, yes he has done a hell of a job it seems holding ministers to account during Covid, so much so the government boycotted Good Morning Britain for months. Only ending when arch Covid rule breaker and general POS Cummings was finally forced to leave Downing Street.
But some perspective, the shower that is the current Cabinet consist of a bunch that not so long ago mostly would not have been selected as MP's.

Then the press get Mr Markle involved, did it not occur to them that she might have good reason not to have her deadbeat, walked out on her as a child of a father involved?
Just last week Morgan was literally yelling (as usual on this topic), on air, about how she even cut her mother out of the wedding.
Funny that, Morgan was not invited but he would have seen clearly from the broadcasts, Meghan's mother WAS there.
Either he's lying or was still seething that two years before, in his mind at least, Meghan chose Harry over him.
Never underestimate the vindictiveness of the British tabloid media.

Morgan stormed off set last week, after the Weatherman, who happens also to be mixed race, tried to calmly point out that there are two sides to this and having to listen to an endless diatribe from Morgan day after day was unsettling.
That's when Piers blew his stack.
As for Morgan, he can claim the mantle of 'free speech warrior' all he likes, he was asked to leave, not just the over 40,000 complaints to the Broadcast Regulator but also from many mental health experts and charities.
Yes he upped viewing figures but they don't want to end up in that kind of morass.

Of course, someone has to buy those rags, watch that trash, ironically it's the self proclaimed 'Royalist's who do this, as one reporter mentioned at the wedding of Harry and Meghan, she encountered one deluded old biddy who was going on about how horrible the media to the Royals, yet she had brought the three worst papers for this!

Morgan and Osborne are both domineering, egomaniac loudmouths, unless you really are dense enough to see them as some kind of warriors for truth.
As for 'The firm', well done them, they lost the most popular members to the younger generation, the main support and respect for them is with the 94 year old head of state.

The whole thing seems like the people that pile on endless abusive dreck onto (some) royals got questioned in the remotest, most polite way possible, and instantly lost what little is left of their mind, much like that weatherman and Piers
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False. They met once June 2016, and he didn't "turn" on her until two years later mid 2018. But honestly, wtf does Meghan owe a dirty old man like Piers after meeting him once? Even if she is a social climber?

That's more-or-less what he says in that video, but he does say she initially contated him and even sent him one of her scripts. They corresponded by e-mail and on Twitter privately as well as publicly. What exactly are you claiming was false?
 
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Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:27 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
False. They met once June 2016, and he didn't "turn" on her until two years later mid 2018. But honestly, wtf does Meghan owe a dirty old man like Piers after meeting him once? Even if she is a social climber?

That's more-or-less what he says in that video, but he does say she initially contated him and even sent him one of her scripts. They corresponded by e-mail and on Twitter privately as well as publicly. What exactly are you claiming was false?

He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her, almost assuredly because he thinks he's deserved a bj or handy-J as a public old white man and didn't get one. Piers isn't owed anything by Meghan--or any young woman--and he and millions of old men like him can't stand it. And if Harry told her to cut the tabloids--ie Piers--off, shouldn't he be mad at Harry?
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Aesma wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.


Or maybe he saw how his "family" aka "the firm" treated his own mother and how they were even worse with his wife ? Are you really surprised that "royals" are totally out of touch ? Especially when the boss is almost a century old ?


His mother wasn’t the saint that she became after her death. She is equally to blame for the mess her marriage turned into. I actually feel sorry for Charles he couldn’t marry the women he wanted to marry and was pushed towards someone who was too young and rather dim witted.

Charles was loyal to Camilla who he eventually married, Diana cheated on Charles with multiple different people.
 
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GDB wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
If course Harry backs her she’s his wife, although he must know that a lot of what she said and her grievances were not factual. It’s his family she trashed, it’s takes a special kind of person to sit back and watch that happening in an interview right in front of you.

That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

And how is it so hard to believe that this family, which has been tabloid fodder for generations for outrageous behavior, has some...uh...quirks in terms of treatment of outsiders?


Morgan actually met her before she met Harry, it's not hard given Harry's utter loathing of the tabloid media (which he blames in large part for his mother's death), to see what his reaction would have been at the very mention of Morgan, who himself was a tabloid editor.
Before being sacked for publishing fake pics of British troops abusing people in Iraq (that did happen later but not in these pics which were obvious fakes), as well as a share dealing scandal, Morgan was also heavily implicated in phone hacking. He claims not, however before it became a a scandal, he boasted about how easy it was to a number of people, odd that, that then says he didn't allow it as he claimed when it got serious.

When they got together Harry issued a warning to the gutter press, clearly with his Mother in mind, as well the racial dimension.
To which our wonderful tabloids responded with headlines like 'Straight Outta Compton' and 'Gangster Blood In The Royal Family'.
Harry clearly expected support from the rest of the firm and did not get it.
An audit of the press even before the wedding showed a marked bias of negative 'stories' about Meghan, compared to others, usually with a racial dimension often implied.

As for Morgan, yes he has done a hell of a job it seems holding ministers to account during Covid, so much so the government boycotted Good Morning Britain for months. Only ending when arch Covid rule breaker and general POS Cummings was finally forced to leave Downing Street.
But some perspective, the shower that is the current Cabinet consist of a bunch that not so long ago mostly would not have been selected as MP's.

Then the press get Mr Markle involved, did it not occur to them that she might have good reason not to have her deadbeat, walked out on her as a child of a father involved?
Just last week Morgan was literally yelling (as usual on this topic), on air, about how she even cut her mother out of the wedding.
Funny that, Morgan was not invited but he would have seen clearly from the broadcasts, Meghan's mother WAS there.
Either he's lying or was still seething that two years before, in his mind at least, Meghan chose Harry over him.
Never underestimate the vindictiveness of the British tabloid media.

Morgan stormed off set last week, after the Weatherman, who happens also to be mixed race, tried to calmly point out that there are two sides to this and having to listen to an endless diatribe from Morgan day after day was unsettling.
That's when Piers blew his stack.
As for Morgan, he can claim the mantle of 'free speech warrior' all he likes, he was asked to leave, not just the over 40,000 complaints to the Broadcast Regulator but also from many mental health experts and charities.
Yes he upped viewing figures but they don't want to end up in that kind of morass.

Of course, someone has to buy those rags, watch that trash, ironically it's the self proclaimed 'Royalist's who do this, as one reporter mentioned at the wedding of Harry and Meghan, she encountered one deluded old biddy who was going on about how horrible the media to the Royals, yet she had brought the three worst papers for this!

Morgan and Osborne are both domineering, egomaniac loudmouths, unless you really are dense enough to see them as some kind of warriors for truth.
As for 'The firm', well done them, they lost the most popular members to the younger generation, the main support and respect for them is with the 94 year old head of state.


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‘The Talk’ Cancels Shows Amid Investigation Surrounding Sharon Osbourne Comments

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tal ... 09252.html

I suspect that a woman of color's rights trump any freedom of speech rights that Sharon has as a dual US/UK citizen, with Jewish heritage. (According to Wiki)


Let them be canceled- they have talk shows, media, wealth, social media, this, that and everything else.

Perhaps these vacuous loudmouth types could try doing a real job for a few months.
 
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cpd wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
‘The Talk’ Cancels Shows Amid Investigation Surrounding Sharon Osbourne Comments

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tal ... 09252.html

I suspect that a woman of color's rights trump any freedom of speech rights that Sharon has as a dual US/UK citizen, with Jewish heritage. (According to Wiki)


Let them be canceled- they have talk shows, media, wealth, social media, this, that and everything else.

Perhaps these vacuous loudmouth types could try doing a real job for a few months.

I think that's the issue--the Tuckers, Candace, Tomis, Sharons, Rushs of the world wouldn't last a nanosecond in a real job :rotfl:
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Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:02 pm

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He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her, almost assuredly because he thinks he's deserved a bj or handy-J as a public old white man and didn't get one. Piers isn't owed anything by Meghan--or any young woman--and he and millions of old men like him can't stand it. And if Harry told her to cut the tabloids--ie Piers--off, shouldn't he be mad at Harry?

I love the way you turn assumptions into facts and then accuse others of making false claims :roll: . You've a great imagination, but stick to the facts. Why would he be mad at Harry when he doesn't even know him? Says a lot about the character of a person when you actively seek them out (nothing to do with the fact he was famous, of course), then build up a friendship over a distance, then arrange to meet and drop them like a hot potato when you've landed a bigger fish, doesn't it? If she had been told by Harry to dump him, the least she could have done was sent him a text apologising and explaining the situation. Let's not fool ourselves here: she is quite pretty and would have no problem landing a handsome man. There's no way she would choose someone as average as Harry if it weren't for his position. Simple as . . .
 
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There's no way she would choose someone as average as Harry if it weren't for his position. Simple as . . .


Her two previous serious relationships were with minor celebrities who by all accounts are very nice guys - no cheating or abuse to be found. The latter one’s Canadian family is still very fond of her. Perhaps within the circles she moved in she just happens to like nice guys? Harry, by all accounts, is one of those too.
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Girls, girls! Let’s get back to the REAL drama at hand, to wit: Mrs. O, alleged by Leah Remini, to have called Julie Chen “wonton” and “slant eyes, AND Sara Gilbert a “p*ssy licker” and “fish eater.”

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Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:10 am

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MaverickM11 wrote:
He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her, almost assuredly because he thinks he's deserved a bj or handy-J as a public old white man and didn't get one. Piers isn't owed anything by Meghan--or any young woman--and he and millions of old men like him can't stand it. And if Harry told her to cut the tabloids--ie Piers--off, shouldn't he be mad at Harry?

I love the way you turn assumptions into facts and then accuse others of making false claims :roll: . You've a great imagination, but stick to the facts. Why would he be mad at Harry when he doesn't even know him? Says a lot about the character of a person when you actively seek them out (nothing to do with the fact he was famous, of course), then build up a friendship over a distance, then arrange to meet and drop them like a hot potato when you've landed a bigger fish, doesn't it? If she had been told by Harry to dump him, the least she could have done was sent him a text apologising and explaining the situation. Let's not fool ourselves here: she is quite pretty and would have no problem landing a handsome man. There's no way she would choose someone as average as Harry if it weren't for his position. Simple as . . .

There are no assumptions:

June 29, 2016: Meghan is in London to see Serena Williams play tennis at Wimbledon. She messages Morgan: “Would love to say Hi!” They meet for pre-dinner drinks at his local pub.
Dec. 15, 2016: Morgan writes a Daily Mail column on why Meghan would be a great bride.
Nov. 27, 2017: The royal family announces the engagement of Harry and Meghan. Morgan congratulates the couple, and particularly Meghan, tweeting: “My friend will make the perfect modern bride.”
May 14–19, 2018: As Markle family drama unfolds in the days before the wedding, Morgan tweets his sympathy for Meghan, whose father won’t attend. He then writes a column cutting into Meghan’s dad, who sold photos to a paparazzi photographer, and expressing sadness for Meghan.
June 18, 2018: Morgan begins to turn on Meghan. He invites Meghan’s dad to his ITV morning show and paints a narrative of him as the pitiful victim of Meghan’s cruelty and coldness.

That's almost literally two years of fawning over Meghan when she allegedly ghosted him after the June 2016 meeting. Again, young women don't owe you sh!t. And coming to that realization is when bad men go off the rails and do bad things. Piers is exhibit A. And if Meghan is too pretty for Harry, wtf is Kate doing with the ugly brother? Is she a gold digger too?

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Girls, girls! Let’s get back to the REAL drama at hand, to wit: Mrs. O, alleged by Leah Remini, to have called Julie Chen “wonton” and “slant eyes, AND Sara Gilbert a “p*ssy licker” and “fish eater.”

https://pagesix.com/2021/03/16/sharon-o ... er-report/

Whoopsie dasies! Remini takin' down Scientology and Sharon Osbourne :rotfl:
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:30 am

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And coming to that realization is when bad men go off the rails and do bad things. Piers is exhibit A. And if Meghan is too pretty for Harry, wtf is Kate doing with the ugly brother? Is she a gold digger too?


And once again Mav is both serious social critic and pop comedian. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:42 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
There are no assumptions:


MaverickM11 wrote:
He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her, almost assuredly because he thinks he's deserved a bj or handy-J as a public old white man and didn't get one. Piers isn't owed anything by Meghan--or any young woman--and he and millions of old men like him can't stand it. And if Harry told her to cut the tabloids--ie Piers--off, shouldn't he be mad at Harry?

I rest my case.

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And if Meghan is too pretty for Harry, wtf is Kate doing with the ugly brother? Is she a gold digger too?

Quite possibly, but if she is she's very discreet -- and classier -- about it.
 
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:07 am

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MaverickM11 wrote:
That doesn't explain why Piers loved her for years until he didn't get a wedding invite.

And how is it so hard to believe that this family, which has been tabloid fodder for generations for outrageous behavior, has some...uh...quirks in terms of treatment of outsiders?


Morgan actually met her before she met Harry, it's not hard given Harry's utter loathing of the tabloid media (which he blames in large part for his mother's death), to see what his reaction would have been at the very mention of Morgan, who himself was a tabloid editor.
Before being sacked for publishing fake pics of British troops abusing people in Iraq (that did happen later but not in these pics which were obvious fakes), as well as a share dealing scandal, Morgan was also heavily implicated in phone hacking. He claims not, however before it became a a scandal, he boasted about how easy it was to a number of people, odd that, that then says he didn't allow it as he claimed when it got serious.

When they got together Harry issued a warning to the gutter press, clearly with his Mother in mind, as well the racial dimension.
To which our wonderful tabloids responded with headlines like 'Straight Outta Compton' and 'Gangster Blood In The Royal Family'.
Harry clearly expected support from the rest of the firm and did not get it.
An audit of the press even before the wedding showed a marked bias of negative 'stories' about Meghan, compared to others, usually with a racial dimension often implied.

As for Morgan, yes he has done a hell of a job it seems holding ministers to account during Covid, so much so the government boycotted Good Morning Britain for months. Only ending when arch Covid rule breaker and general POS Cummings was finally forced to leave Downing Street.
But some perspective, the shower that is the current Cabinet consist of a bunch that not so long ago mostly would not have been selected as MP's.

Then the press get Mr Markle involved, did it not occur to them that she might have good reason not to have her deadbeat, walked out on her as a child of a father involved?
Just last week Morgan was literally yelling (as usual on this topic), on air, about how she even cut her mother out of the wedding.
Funny that, Morgan was not invited but he would have seen clearly from the broadcasts, Meghan's mother WAS there.
Either he's lying or was still seething that two years before, in his mind at least, Meghan chose Harry over him.
Never underestimate the vindictiveness of the British tabloid media.

Morgan stormed off set last week, after the Weatherman, who happens also to be mixed race, tried to calmly point out that there are two sides to this and having to listen to an endless diatribe from Morgan day after day was unsettling.
That's when Piers blew his stack.
As for Morgan, he can claim the mantle of 'free speech warrior' all he likes, he was asked to leave, not just the over 40,000 complaints to the Broadcast Regulator but also from many mental health experts and charities.
Yes he upped viewing figures but they don't want to end up in that kind of morass.

Of course, someone has to buy those rags, watch that trash, ironically it's the self proclaimed 'Royalist's who do this, as one reporter mentioned at the wedding of Harry and Meghan, she encountered one deluded old biddy who was going on about how horrible the media to the Royals, yet she had brought the three worst papers for this!

Morgan and Osborne are both domineering, egomaniac loudmouths, unless you really are dense enough to see them as some kind of warriors for truth.
As for 'The firm', well done them, they lost the most popular members to the younger generation, the main support and respect for them is with the 94 year old head of state.


Diana’s death was her own fault, everyone knows you put on a seatbelt when you ride in a car, she would have survived that crash if she had worn one, instead she ping ponged around the cabin of the vehicle and died. The only survivor was wearing his seatbelt.


That might be the case, however it is also the case that Harry was not even in his teens when it happened, even so he would have been aware of the incessant intrusion of the press before and after her death.
It was a combination of the idiot driver AND the paps chasing them around everywhere, Al-Fayed spent the next few years weaving all his conspiracy theories around Diana being 'murdered' to distract from his organizations complicity in this.
His attempt to worm his way into what he thought was the 'respectable establishment' via his Son and Diana had gone horribly wrong.

Why was Diana even with Al-Fayed's idiot son?
Maybe just a massive 'fuck you' to The Firm whose next in line and by extension, the rest of them, seemed to accept that is was fine for her to be a useful womb for growing successors while Charles went around playing 'let me be your tampon' with his ex. Which by all accounts he barely bothered to hide.
For all the talk of modernisation of that institution, did they really think that a grown woman should just accept this in the 1980's and 90's?

Again, their best, most popular asset pissed away, Harry was right about 'history repeating' in more ways than one.
When you are that young and lose a parent in such a terrible and in this case public way, no matter who you are it must be hugely traumatic, for his brother too of course, however he was that bit older and had the focus/burden of being in line for the throne one day.
Harry really only got straightened out when he joined the army, it's easy to see why, no tabloids and their hacks following him everywhere.

Maybe the Op End has some answer, certainly I think he is right about when the rot began;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-monarchy

That doc being filmed the same year as a Rupert Murdoch brought The Sun tabloid, then a failing if worthy paper in a crowded market, with it came a massive lowering of journalistic standards, never mind the Royals, ask people from Liverpool think of The Sun since 1989.
 
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:25 pm

Unfortunately, Harry made a very poor choice for a wife. Americans do not understand, but the British and “SOME” British subjects do.

The Spice Girls even get it, and they are not even particularly brilliant! But at least these pop talented ladies are brilliant enough to know their place as musicians - unlike Harry’s wife Markle - knowing her place as a second billed actress. The Spice girls vocalizations were greatly appreciated by many... not really my fancy but all the same universally British in their marketing appeal.

Markle is none of that, and not even a particularly brilliant actress. What a missed opportunity for her... and an absolute tragedy for Harry’s new family. I feel Sharon understands Harry’s dilemma in his loyalty to wife and family, but sometimes there are bigger loyalties one must factor. I am sure Sharon, is reflecting upon this too.
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:42 pm

KlimaBXsst wrote:
Unfortunately, Harry made a very poor choice for a wife. Americans do not understand, but the British and “SOME” British subjects do.

The Spice Girls even get it, and they are not even particularly brilliant! But at least these pop talented ladies are brilliant enough to know their place as musicians - unlike Harry’s wife Markle - knowing her place as a second billed actress. The Spice girls vocalizations were greatly appreciated by many... not really my fancy but all the same universally British in their marketing appeal.

Markle is none of that, and not even a particularly brilliant actress. What a missed opportunity for her... and an absolute tragedy for Harry’s new family. I feel Sharon understands Harry’s dilemma in his loyalty to wife and family, but sometimes there are bigger loyalties one must factor. I am sure Sharon, is reflecting upon this too.


Perhaps he loves her and regards her as his best friend. In that sense it would be none of your business to judge. Spice Girls...FFS
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:43 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
There are no assumptions:


MaverickM11 wrote:
He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her, almost assuredly because he thinks he's deserved a bj or handy-J as a public old white man and didn't get one. Piers isn't owed anything by Meghan--or any young woman--and he and millions of old men like him can't stand it. And if Harry told her to cut the tabloids--ie Piers--off, shouldn't he be mad at Harry?

I rest my case.

You should try reading instead. Again, Piers had no problem with her for TWO YEARS after meeting her once. And then suddenly he's bent out of shape Why does it take two years for him to cook up his revenge narrative?

And again, women don't owe you sh!t. Especially old rapey ones like Piers.

Aaron747 wrote:
KlimaBXsst wrote:
Unfortunately, Harry made a very poor choice for a wife. Americans do not understand, but the British and “SOME” British subjects do.

The Spice Girls even get it, and they are not even particularly brilliant! But at least these pop talented ladies are brilliant enough to know their place as musicians - unlike Harry’s wife Markle - knowing her place as a second billed actress. The Spice girls vocalizations were greatly appreciated by many... not really my fancy but all the same universally British in their marketing appeal.

Markle is none of that, and not even a particularly brilliant actress. What a missed opportunity for her... and an absolute tragedy for Harry’s new family. I feel Sharon understands Harry’s dilemma in his loyalty to wife and family, but sometimes there are bigger loyalties one must factor. I am sure Sharon, is reflecting upon this too.


Perhaps he loves her and regards her as his best friend. In that sense it would be none of your business to judge. Spice Girls...FFS

Deranged. Especially when you consider Prince Andrew is just over the moon that all these white people are big mad about Meghan...existing.
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Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:24 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
You should try reading instead.

I did, but maybe you should start reading your own posts. You claimed that Morgan had turned on Markle because he didn't get a wedding invite. Then you claim he began to turn on her in June 2018:
MaverickM11 wrote:
June 18, 2018: Morgan begins to turn on Meghan. He invites Meghan’s dad to his ITV morning show and paints a narrative of him as the pitiful victim of Meghan’s cruelty and coldness.

The wedding was in May, so the invites would have been sent out a long time in advance.

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And again, women don't owe you sh!t. Especially old rapey ones like Piers.

There you go making assumptions again! And pretty serious ones this time. You denigrate Morgan because of his age, sex and race. Would you accept that commentary about, say, a young, black woman?
 
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There you go making assumptions again! And pretty serious ones this time. You denigrate Morgan because of his age, sex and race. Would you accept that commentary about, say, a young, black woman?


Pretty emotional defense for a guy you don’t even know. Are you saying the dirty old man thing in the media doesn’t exist?
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Pretty emotional defense for a guy you don’t even know. Are you saying the dirty old man thing in the media doesn’t exist?

Emotional??? I was actually trying to be rational. I was merely pointing out the inconsistencies in MaverickM11's posts. Plus highlighting his wild assumptions, which he denies, yet continues to make.
 
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Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:22 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Braybuddy wrote:
There you go making assumptions again! And pretty serious ones this time. You denigrate Morgan because of his age, sex and race. Would you accept that commentary about, say, a young, black woman?


Pretty emotional defense for a guy you don’t even know. Are you saying the dirty old man thing in the media doesn’t exist?


Dirty old men in media exist, i think if that's what he had said it wouldn't have been a problem. Dirty old white men though, implies there is some connection with race and being dirty, perhaps making further implications that other races cannot be old and dirty. Why we have to inject race into conversations I'll never know, it doesn't particularly solve any of the problems people face with race these days, but rather seems to exacerbate the issues and slow any solutions.
 
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Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:55 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
You should try reading instead.

I did, but maybe you should start reading your own posts. You claimed that Morgan had turned on Markle because he didn't get a wedding invite. Then you claim he began to turn on her in June 2018:
MaverickM11 wrote:
June 18, 2018: Morgan begins to turn on Meghan. He invites Meghan’s dad to his ITV morning show and paints a narrative of him as the pitiful victim of Meghan’s cruelty and coldness.

The wedding was in May, so the invites would have been sent out a long time in advance.

That's a lot of yapping that still doesn't explain why he waited two years to turn on Meghan. You keep using the word "assumptions"; I don't think you know what that word means. Thou dost protest a bit much.

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And again, women don't owe you sh!t. Especially old rapey ones like Piers.

There you go making assumptions again! And pretty serious ones this time. You denigrate Morgan because of his age, sex and race. Would you accept that commentary about, say, a young, black woman?

You obviously accept that commentary about a young black woman--in fact you're repeating and amplifying it. Piers has a well documented history of being human garbage, and the tradition of older/powerful men turning on women that refuse their advances is as old as time. It's also a far more likely explanation than "oh I decided two years late that she's a social climber". He's clearly obsessed with her but still incredibly sensitive about it as seen from his tantrum and storm off set--that's not sane behavior.
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Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:04 pm

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Pretty emotional defense for a guy you don’t even know. Are you saying the dirty old man thing in the media doesn’t exist?

Emotional??? I was actually trying to be rational. I was merely pointing out the inconsistencies in MaverickM11's posts. Plus highlighting his wild assumptions, which he denies, yet continues to make.


Roger that. Most of the defenses of Morgan I have seen in the last few days by middle-aged men tend to exhibit heightened emotion. It's truly mystifying to see, especially in people that don't know the bloke at all.
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MaverickM11 wrote:
You keep using the word "assumptions"; I don't think you know what that word means. Thou dost protest a bit much.

If these aren't assumptions, what are they?:
MaverickM11 wrote:
He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her, almost assuredly because he thinks he's deserved a bj or handy-J as a public old white man and didn't get one.


MaverickM11 wrote:
Especially old rapey ones like Piers.

You know you might even be right. They are actually serious accusations - and libellous to boot.

MaverickM11 wrote:
You obviously accept that commentary about a young black woman--in fact you're repeating and amplifying it.

There you go, bringing race into it again. Race doesn't come into it -- apart from your perspective. Having the biggest wedding of the year and the bride inviting only one member of her family while inviting a pile of celebrities, some recently acquired, had to make it one of the oddest weddings ever -- and speaks volumes.

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I have seen in the last few days by middle-aged men tend to exhibit heightened emotion. It's truly mystifying to see, especially in people that don't know the bloke at all.

I'm no follower of Morgan, and he didn't do himself any favours by storming off the set. But I do admire his ability to puncture overinflated egos.
 
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Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:20 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
You keep using the word "assumptions"; I don't think you know what that word means. Thou dost protest a bit much.

If these aren't assumptions, what are they?:
MaverickM11 wrote:
He thought she was the cat's meow for two years after they met, and *then* decided he hated her.


It's backed by every timeline of his musings on the subject. Again, why do you keep avoiding the obvious question--why does Piers wait two years to throw a tantrum?

Braybuddy wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
You obviously accept that commentary about a young black woman--in fact you're repeating and amplifying it.

There you go, bringing race into it again. Race doesn't come into it -- apart from your perspective.

You literally brought that up in your last post, which I was quoting.

Braybuddy wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
I have seen in the last few days by middle-aged men tend to exhibit heightened emotion. It's truly mystifying to see, especially in people that don't know the bloke at all.

I'm no follower of Morgan, and he didn't do himself any favours by storming off the set. But I do admire his ability to puncture overinflated egos.

The guy that threw a tantrum and walked off set punctures overinflated egos? Maybe his own?
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Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:48 pm

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It's backed by every timeline of his musings on the subject. Again, why do you keep avoiding the obvious question--why does Piers wait two years to throw a tantrum?

I have no idea why he waited two years, maybe he was giving her a chance, but it's clearly rooted in her ghosting of him.

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Call it an educated guess

His lawyers would no doubt disagree.

MaverickM11 wrote:
You literally brought that up in your last post, which I was quoting.

In general terms, because you were making racist -- plus ageist and sexist -- comments.

MaverickM11 wrote:
The guy that threw a tantrum and walked off set punctures overinflated egos? Maybe his own?

I've no doubt his ego is every bit as big as the Sussexes'. That's probably why he knows how to puncture them. :wink2:
 
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Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:08 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
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It's backed by every timeline of his musings on the subject. Again, why do you keep avoiding the obvious question--why does Piers wait two years to throw a tantrum?

I have no idea why he waited two years, maybe he was giving her a chance, but it's clearly rooted in her ghosting of him.

Oh so you're assuming every sin he's accused Meghan of two years late is true. Interesting. Figured as much.
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A source exclusively told The Sun Sharon is “not expected to return.”

The insider claimed: “The lawyers seem to be battling out regarding money, letting her spin it, non-disparagement and more. It's all happening at the highest levels of the network.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2 ... otiations/

Pretty much just as I suspected how this would end..
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Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:04 pm

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Oh so you're assuming every sin he's accused Meghan of two years late is true. Interesting. Figured as much.

You're assuming that I'm assuming that he's assuming . . . :spin: :wink2:

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