I think everyone wants to get back to their normal jobs. Unfortunately, that takes:
1. More vaccine uptake which also requires
2. More vaccine production
3. Vaccination of the children (in work)
I refuse to do certain activities due to the risk to my not yet eligible for vaccination child; since I am not unique, I know it is decimating many small business owners that have a business catering to the children.
I have no doubt 3rd doses will be offered as a booster. It is a question of when.
A curious observation from the ongoing ZOE study in the UK. It has been noted that amongst vaccinated people who test positive for COVID-19, breakthrough cases, their most common symptom was sneezing.
So now, you have people who, feeling confident with a vaccine in their bodies, are probably more lax with their masking, taking their kids to the park to play with all the other kids, and probably visiting people and going out more. They’re getting infected, but because they’re vaccinated, and the symptoms aren’t COVID-19 typical, they’re probably assuming it’s a normal cold or allergies, and they are doing what projects more aerosols and droplets than anything else, they’re sneezing. Might have something to do with the spread we’re currently seeing in the UK, no? https://covid.joinzoe.com/
I thought that much of the UK spread was in non vaccinated communities where there are vaccine hesitant people or they haven't yet got it.
Regarding the cold like symptoms this is what was predicted and is similar to the endemic coronaviruses which is what Covid19 is going to be. At the end of the day I like what Andrew Cuomo said. If your vaccinated, don't worry about it you are good.
Eventually we have to get to the point that if you are vaccine hesitant then its your risk. The fortunate thing is most of the vaccines hesitant are also anti lockdown. From my observation in Canada the ones who want the restrictions to remain are comfortable baby boomers in their late 50's and 60's. Anyone under 45 is done with the restrictions.
Well, yes, the principal spread is among non-vaccinated, and their symptoms will be more severe, and more typical. However, I am sure there are vaccinated, sneezing people hanging out around non-vaccinated people. By the sounds of it, a vaccinated, infected person has a greater potential to be a superspreader individual.
And yes, we will get to a point where the unvaccinated must take their risks, and the rest of us can be 100% free to get on with our lives. Of course, for that to be 100% fair, we have to be able to offer vaccines to everyone, including under 12's. We're not there yet, so I accept that some
restrictions should remain in place for a while yet.
And also yes, those people who have lives which can fairly comfortably accommodate restrictions are, of course, more liable to be fine with harsher restrictions continuing… such as the never-ending US/Canada border closure, and the hotel quarantine. Definitely, the younger age groups are getting extremely restless. It's the sense that "we've done our part, so can we get on with this?"
As to Canada, I'm not sure that Alberta is following the right path. I think they looked at the Stampede dates, and then set reopening goalposts which were achievable in time to have Stampede. That, as opposed to actually following good science, even if it put Stampede at risk. But, I guess we shall see whether the grand Alberta experiment goes okay, or not. We'll know by August.
That said, I'm impressed that Alberta reduced the interval between vaccines to 4 weeks. Most of the rest of the country is still stuck at an 8-week wait. Hopefully, the other provinces will soon figure out what they need to do to reduce the interval also.
A vaccinated person is far less likely to be a super spreader is the vaccine helps suppress the viral load. My anecdotal observation is the "I don't give a damn" people are unvaccinated. They are the ones I have to send home from work, while the vaccinated tend to be aware.
Why do the vaccines, in particular AZ and mRNA help so much:The researchers also found that only a small number—10.7%—of infections in the study were asymptomatic, demonstrating, according to the CDC, that "these two mRNA vaccines can reduce the risk of all SARS-CoV-2 infections, not just symptomatic infections."https://www.verywellhealth.com/cdc-stud ... es-5121080
The mRNA, AZ, and J&J vaccines has proven really good at reducing transmission.
The continued risk is the unvaccinated. In the simplest terms, if you cannot get the disease, you will not spread it.
To the anti-Vax (in the USA, in my opinion if you are unvaccinated, you are no longer hesitant):
My relative is in Mesa County Colorado has been going through hell because so many unvaccinated are getting severely ill. From that anecdotal, you might even call it myopic, I agree "described the Delta variant as “coronavirus on steroids”"https://news.yahoo.com/delta-variant-co ... 47750.html
They have had 9 "breakthrough" deaths, but all have been explainable (age, cancer, something that doomed the person that was depending on others to slow the spread):https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western ... 3507a.html
That is 9 out of 242 deaths.https://health.mesacounty.us/covid19/datadashboard/
My relative had to be the one to declare that the ambulances were to be turned away and to drive to Denver. Huh... They were able to clear out *many* patients after that (airlift), amazing what "no more" does to get resources.
In my opinion, the USA entered the quiet time on June 2nd that the UK entered on April 10th. The UK is better vaccinated and is, unfortunately, out of the "quiet time." We're trailing. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co ... ry=USA~GBR
The interval between doses is entirely based upon vaccine availability. Do you go for maximum 1 dose, which seems to really reduce transmission. Or do you go for protection against Delta (which seems to need a 2-3 week period after the 2nd dose to have protection)? It takes vaccine quantity to short circuit that decision. Before the Stampede (which I have fond memories of attending), I would prioritize the Olympics.
The winners are the highly vaccinated countries with good vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AZ, and I hope Novavax.
UK has quite the spread in their unvaccinated population. Cases are rising rapidly across the country and the Delta variant is now dominant. The increase is primarily in younger age groups, a large proportion of which were unvaccinated but are now being invited to receive the vaccine.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... itics-live
I noted the UK peaked at #5 on this list (higher is worse) and is now at #7, Israel was at #25, now at #32 and is dropping (higher fraction vaccinated, good testing in UK and Israel).https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co ... ry=USA~GBR
Link showing testing. North America testing is... ok, but just that ok.https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... BR~ISR~CAN
We get out of this when more vaccinate. I am of the opinion, quite certain actually, that we will see bad Delta variant outbreaks in the unvaccinated pockets. I'm not so happy the bars, concerts, and other events those who won't vaccinate will congregate at. I want an open economy, the way to do that is not be scared of a needle.