My post is dripping in sarcasm. Despite what the pro gun/anti gun law lobby wants us to believe, people are the same everywhere. Aussies and Brits are just as demented as Americans. If they had as many guns and as lax a gun regulation structure as we do they'd be killing themselves at exactly the same rate. We all have violence issues, family issues, poverty issues and mental issues. It's the guns pure and simple. They need to be much more heavily regulated to give true sportsman and self-defenders the ability to own and carry what they need to for the purpose guaranteed in the Second Amendment. No one that ever wrote the Second Amendment envisioned the mass carnage we live through every day now. But here we are pushing the theory that more guns are going to make Americans safer. We're witnessing the absolute thrashing of that theory on a daily basis.
But I get it, nothing will happen until another 20-30 mass killing events, big ones like Vegas or atrocious ones like Sandy Hook. I figure a single event like Sandy Hook with at least 100 dead students would sicken GOP constituents enough to mandate licensing, training and insurance policies. Maybe not though. It might take 3 or 4 of those kinds of events in sequence to crack the idiocy of our lax gun culture.
Access to guns is fairly easy in the U.K. and Australia, you just need to go through the process to get one. The difference is the type of weapons available isn’t the same and the general population are genuinely not interested in arming themselves.
Correct. Because here in the UK we had a couple of mass shootings and realised enough was enough. Pistols were banned and regulations tightened. It’s still relatively easy to get weapons (if you can be arsed) but, as noted, very few people are interested in having them.
Watching the video, no sympathy for the shooter. I hope it hurt. Half expecting there to be a law suit against the officer for cuffing him though… that just seems to be the way of things these days. Yes this is sarcasm but based on the way the modern world is heading.
True, gun obsessives here would be viewed as wierd or even of concern, want to learn to shoot (properly) then join the armed forces, or the police if you are pepared to to serve your time as a beat officer then apply for firearms training, which is long and stringent. If you are ex military then maybe the small specialised units like the Ministry of Defence Police, VIP/Diplomatic Protection/Special Branch, or the force that guards nuclear power plants.
Someone with a legitimate use, usually rural, can apply for a licence, for a shotgun and/or .22 bolt action, after backgroud checks and demonstration of secure storage.
The days of a few wanting semi auto versions of the AK, that ended after one was used in the 1987 Hungerford massacre, selfloading pistols like the Browning used at Dunblane in 1996. So if in the UK you want a penis extension AR-15, forget it.
This does not prevent criminals from getting them, ‘them’ however is usually reactivated ones or converted replicas, bad but not anything with 30 high velocity rounds in the mag. Being convicted of these illegal conversions means a prison sentence likey in the double figures in years before parole consideration.
Still some ‘real’ ones get through but they are the exception.
Nations and societies change, so do laws and the nature of some crimes, from the 70’s through to the early 90’s robbing wages vans and banks usually with sawn off shotguns was common, the great reduction in cash being moved and stored plus a whole generation of ‘blaggers’ were caught, chose other less directly risky criminality or in some cases shot by units specialising in countering this sort of crime like London’s Flying Squad, made this crime much less common.
Guns now are mainly for turf wars between gangs related to drugs, sweep one of those up and the hauls for the police usually are drugs, money, guns.
What is clear is that, so far, extremists, ususlly Islamist, in their attacks rely on knifes and fake sucide vests, imagine if they could get the sort of weapons used at Hungerford or the vast array of worse ones available in the US with miminal or no checks.
Finally, who here can remember when even in the US mass shootings were quite rare, as in a few per decade?