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Sokes
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 am

The German Wikipedia article about pedophilia is better than the English one. So I can't quote.
It seems sexual abuse of children is mostly done by people who aren't pedophiles. Instead they can get aroused by children as well as by adults. People without consciousness who don't miss a chance.
Estimates of child sexual abuse victims offended by true pedophiles is 2%-20%.

Own thought:
There are lots of men who consider 16 year old women attractive. How many fathers try to have sex with their 16 year old daughters?

We had a discussion about rape once. There was a politician who as young man at a party nearly raped a woman when drunk. His friend was present and kicked both from the bed. The woman escaped. There were no stories of that man after that. There are plenty of people with dark secrets. As long as they behave one has to tolerate them.

If the demand is sterilization instead of prison I'm the first to support. I anyway think too many cracked people are allowed to get children. That this guy keeps spreading his genetic is indeed not in the interest of coming generations.
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am

Sokes wrote:
The German Wikipedia article about pedophilia is better than the English one. So I can't quote.
It seems sexual abuse of children is mostly done by people who aren't pedophiles. Instead they can get aroused by children as well as by adults. People without consciousness who don't miss a chance.
Estimates of child sexual abuse by true pedophiles is 2%-20%.

Own thought:
There are lots of men who consider 16 year old women attractive. How many fathers try to have sex with their 16 year old daughters?

We had a discussion about rape once. There was a politician who as young man at a party nearly raped a woman when drunk. His friend was present and kicked both from the bed. The woman escaped. There were no stories of that man after that. There are plenty of people with dark secrets. As long as they behave one has to tolerate them.

If the demand is sterilization instead of prison I'm the first to support. I anyway think too many cracked people are allowed to get children. That this guy keeps spreading his genetic is indeed not in the interest of coming generations.


But there is a huge difference between someone thinking "that person is attractive" and committing violence.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:28 pm

The creep has been found guilty.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 868921002/

I must admit, when they first started appearing on television I watched their show -- then I realized they were effectively a perky fertility cult, and couldn't watch it anymore.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:55 pm

luckyone wrote:
The creep has been found guilty.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 868921002/
I must admit, when they first started appearing on television I watched their show -- then I realized they were effectively a perky fertility cult, and couldn't watch it anymore.


Good, another 'religious' hypocrite caught in his mortal sins. That he was tried and convicted by a jury in a Federal court in a state with a lot of these Christian phonies says that the evidence was overwhelming and even they were sickened by it. The prosecution was also able to present an earlier police case of 2006 of while a teen this sick jerk molesting in and around 2003-05 of 5 minor age women including 2 younger sisters (yuk !). https://people.com/tv/josh-duggars-past ... orn-trial/

The related problem is that these 'reality' shows like he was involved with don't do enough research of their participants, encourage the worst about our society, are voyeuristic freak shows and have no socially redeeming value. I hope any of the Duggers still around ditch their cult like Christianity, break up and shun those that non-sexually prostituted them on TV and act like decent people.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:13 pm

alfa164 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
The incredible thing is this dude molested his sister and STILL became an evangelical reality star. They'll seriously accept anything so long as it proclaims to luv thuh Lawd.


Well, he is from Arkansas...

;)


And, you?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:45 pm

WesternDC6B wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
The incredible thing is this dude molested his sister and STILL became an evangelical reality star. They'll seriously accept anything so long as it proclaims to luv thuh Lawd.


Well, he is from Arkansas...

;)


And, you?


Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:07 pm

CaptHadley wrote:
WesternDC6B wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

Well, he is from Arkansas...

;)


And, you?


Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.

Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:41 pm

luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:
WesternDC6B wrote:

And, you?


Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.

Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.


Hardly
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:44 pm

CaptHadley wrote:
luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:

Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.

Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.


Hardly

Well…I’m from the South. And I have family from
Some very rural areas, and think you’re statement is unfounded. Then there’s this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states

Assuming those rates are in order of prevalence…
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:51 am

luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:
luckyone wrote:
Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.


Hardly
Well…I’m from the South. And I have family from Some very rural areas, and think you’re statement is unfounded. Then there’s this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states Assuming those rates are in order of prevalence…


Sorry; hate to burst you bubble, but, factually, the four states with the highest level of incest are (drum roll. please!):

Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky
West Virginia



https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/commen ... in_incest/


Even the source you cited concluded:

"Generally, inbreeding is more common in the southeast region of the U.S. and more rural states. Approximately 70% of inbred families live in desolate areas."


https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:55 am

alfa164 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:

Hardly
Well…I’m from the South. And I have family from Some very rural areas, and think you’re statement is unfounded. Then there’s this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states Assuming those rates are in order of prevalence…


Sorry; hate to burst you bubble, but, factually, the four states with the highest level of incest are (drum roll. please!):

Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky
West Virginia



https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/commen ... in_incest/


Even the source you cited concluded:

"Generally, inbreeding is more common in the southeast region of the U.S. and more rural states. Approximately 70% of inbred families live in desolate areas."


https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states


Highest level of interest in searching for it on the web...that's not exactly equivalent to highest level of participation. That would be a different chart/map.

I just love that Duggar's conviction makes the Family Research Council look more ridiculous than they already are.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:06 am

Why does he smile on his mugshots?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:29 am

johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:58 pm

alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:18 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


I cannot disagree. However, I do think this smug, bible-thumping, holier-than-thou charlatan deserves anything that happens.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:21 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.

Joking or not aside, child molesters are viewed differently even among hardened criminals.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:30 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:59 am

Redd wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:08 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:



Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.


There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:24 am

Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:

Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.


There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.


It's not as strong of a stereotype pertaining to womens' prisons.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:37 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.


There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.


It's not as strong of a stereotype pertaining to womens' prisons.


I'll be honest, I think that the only good pedo, is a d__d one, if they've offended.

But I do think that society thinking that male on male rape is funny, is quite twisted. And a double standard, no less.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:59 pm

Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:

There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.


It's not as strong of a stereotype pertaining to womens' prisons.


I'll be honest, I think that the only good pedo, is a d__d one, if they've offended.

But I do think that society thinking that male on male rape is funny, is quite twisted. And a double standard, no less.


The humor is in jest toward filth who deserve pain, is the usual context I gather.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:02 pm

Redd wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


I thought they made movies about that

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