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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sat May 22, 2021 2:24 am

The German Wikipedia article about pedophilia is better than the English one. So I can't quote.
It seems sexual abuse of children is mostly done by people who aren't pedophiles. Instead they can get aroused by children as well as by adults. People without consciousness who don't miss a chance.
Estimates of child sexual abuse victims offended by true pedophiles is 2%-20%.

Own thought:
There are lots of men who consider 16 year old women attractive. How many fathers try to have sex with their 16 year old daughters?

We had a discussion about rape once. There was a politician who as young man at a party nearly raped a woman when drunk. His friend was present and kicked both from the bed. The woman escaped. There were no stories of that man after that. There are plenty of people with dark secrets. As long as they behave one has to tolerate them.

If the demand is sterilization instead of prison I'm the first to support. I anyway think too many cracked people are allowed to get children. That this guy keeps spreading his genetic is indeed not in the interest of coming generations.
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am

Sokes wrote:
The German Wikipedia article about pedophilia is better than the English one. So I can't quote.
It seems sexual abuse of children is mostly done by people who aren't pedophiles. Instead they can get aroused by children as well as by adults. People without consciousness who don't miss a chance.
Estimates of child sexual abuse by true pedophiles is 2%-20%.

Own thought:
There are lots of men who consider 16 year old women attractive. How many fathers try to have sex with their 16 year old daughters?

We had a discussion about rape once. There was a politician who as young man at a party nearly raped a woman when drunk. His friend was present and kicked both from the bed. The woman escaped. There were no stories of that man after that. There are plenty of people with dark secrets. As long as they behave one has to tolerate them.

If the demand is sterilization instead of prison I'm the first to support. I anyway think too many cracked people are allowed to get children. That this guy keeps spreading his genetic is indeed not in the interest of coming generations.


But there is a huge difference between someone thinking "that person is attractive" and committing violence.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:28 pm

The creep has been found guilty.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 868921002/

I must admit, when they first started appearing on television I watched their show -- then I realized they were effectively a perky fertility cult, and couldn't watch it anymore.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:55 pm

luckyone wrote:
The creep has been found guilty.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 868921002/
I must admit, when they first started appearing on television I watched their show -- then I realized they were effectively a perky fertility cult, and couldn't watch it anymore.


Good, another 'religious' hypocrite caught in his mortal sins. That he was tried and convicted by a jury in a Federal court in a state with a lot of these Christian phonies says that the evidence was overwhelming and even they were sickened by it. The prosecution was also able to present an earlier police case of 2006 of while a teen this sick jerk molesting in and around 2003-05 of 5 minor age women including 2 younger sisters (yuk !). https://people.com/tv/josh-duggars-past ... orn-trial/

The related problem is that these 'reality' shows like he was involved with don't do enough research of their participants, encourage the worst about our society, are voyeuristic freak shows and have no socially redeeming value. I hope any of the Duggers still around ditch their cult like Christianity, break up and shun those that non-sexually prostituted them on TV and act like decent people.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:13 pm

alfa164 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
The incredible thing is this dude molested his sister and STILL became an evangelical reality star. They'll seriously accept anything so long as it proclaims to luv thuh Lawd.


Well, he is from Arkansas...

;)


And, you?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:45 pm

WesternDC6B wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
The incredible thing is this dude molested his sister and STILL became an evangelical reality star. They'll seriously accept anything so long as it proclaims to luv thuh Lawd.


Well, he is from Arkansas...

;)


And, you?


Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:07 pm

CaptHadley wrote:
WesternDC6B wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

Well, he is from Arkansas...

;)


And, you?


Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.

Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:41 pm

luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:
WesternDC6B wrote:

And, you?


Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.

Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.


Hardly
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:44 pm

CaptHadley wrote:
luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:

Let's be honest here. There are certain southern states where your family tree more than likely looks like a palm tree. And Deliverance would be considered a documentary.

Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.


Hardly

Well…I’m from the South. And I have family from
Some very rural areas, and think you’re statement is unfounded. Then there’s this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states

Assuming those rates are in order of prevalence…
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:51 am

luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:
luckyone wrote:
Let’s be honest — that is a gross exaggeration.


Hardly
Well…I’m from the South. And I have family from Some very rural areas, and think you’re statement is unfounded. Then there’s this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states Assuming those rates are in order of prevalence…


Sorry; hate to burst you bubble, but, factually, the four states with the highest level of incest are (drum roll. please!):

Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky
West Virginia



https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/commen ... in_incest/


Even the source you cited concluded:

"Generally, inbreeding is more common in the southeast region of the U.S. and more rural states. Approximately 70% of inbred families live in desolate areas."


https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:55 am

alfa164 wrote:
luckyone wrote:
CaptHadley wrote:

Hardly
Well…I’m from the South. And I have family from Some very rural areas, and think you’re statement is unfounded. Then there’s this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states Assuming those rates are in order of prevalence…


Sorry; hate to burst you bubble, but, factually, the four states with the highest level of incest are (drum roll. please!):

Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky
West Virginia



https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/commen ... in_incest/


Even the source you cited concluded:

"Generally, inbreeding is more common in the southeast region of the U.S. and more rural states. Approximately 70% of inbred families live in desolate areas."


https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... red-states


Highest level of interest in searching for it on the web...that's not exactly equivalent to highest level of participation. That would be a different chart/map.

I just love that Duggar's conviction makes the Family Research Council look more ridiculous than they already are.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:06 am

Why does he smile on his mugshots?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:29 am

johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:58 pm

alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:18 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


I cannot disagree. However, I do think this smug, bible-thumping, holier-than-thou charlatan deserves anything that happens.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:21 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.

Joking or not aside, child molesters are viewed differently even among hardened criminals.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:30 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:59 am

Redd wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:08 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:



Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.


There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:24 am

Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:

Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.


There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.


It's not as strong of a stereotype pertaining to womens' prisons.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:37 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

Obviously based on the tenor of the thread that would depend on if they were child molesters or not.


There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.


It's not as strong of a stereotype pertaining to womens' prisons.


I'll be honest, I think that the only good pedo, is a d__d one, if they've offended.

But I do think that society thinking that male on male rape is funny, is quite twisted. And a double standard, no less.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:59 pm

Redd wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Redd wrote:

There are plenty of child molester women, child murderer women, never heard rape jokes made about them.


It's not as strong of a stereotype pertaining to womens' prisons.


I'll be honest, I think that the only good pedo, is a d__d one, if they've offended.

But I do think that society thinking that male on male rape is funny, is quite twisted. And a double standard, no less.


The humor is in jest toward filth who deserve pain, is the usual context I gather.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:02 pm

Redd wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


Have to agree 100% here. How would people react to jokes about women being raped in prison?


I thought they made movies about that
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Mon May 30, 2022 3:19 pm

He has been sentenced - 12 years.

An Arkansas federal judge sentenced former reality TV star Josh Duggar to more than 12 years in federal prison on Wednesday, according to court documents.

Duggar's legal team maintains his innocence and has said he will appeal.

...footage so terrible that a Homeland Security Investigations agent said it was among the most horrific things he had been forced to watch in his career.

The Buzzfeed article includes some descriptions of some of the content they found... 12 years doesn't seem long enough for that type of depravity.


Sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/entertai ... index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/j ... raphy-case
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/da ... ced-prison
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Mon May 30, 2022 3:25 pm

The making of child porn should be a capital crime!
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Mon May 30, 2022 9:12 pm

CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Why does he smile on his mugshots?


He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


They’re in prison, why should we care?
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Tue May 31, 2022 12:42 pm

If you needed any more evidence that his mother needs to be carted off to the funny farm here it is: she wrote the judge for leniency because her son has “a tender heart.”
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Tue May 31, 2022 3:39 pm

Kiwirob wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:
alfa164 wrote:

He's dreaming of all the sexual opportunities he will enjoy in prison...

;)




Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


They’re in prison, why should we care?


Because for one, not everyone stays in prison forever and the hope is they’ve been brought to a point where they can function in society. That’s along with the whole part about civil societies preventing needless abject suffering even for societies worst.
 
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Tue May 31, 2022 3:51 pm

SL1200MK2 wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:



Why do people think rape is suddenly ok to joke about if it occurs in prison? It’s not the hardened criminals suffering the brunt of sexual assault, it’s the youngest inmates, lgbtq and low level offenders. Rape shouldn’t be acceptable in any capacity.


They’re in prison, why should we care?


Because for one, not everyone stays in prison forever and the hope is they’ve been brought to a point where they can function in society. That’s along with the whole part about civil societies preventing needless abject suffering even for societies worst.


He’s a pedophile, he raped his own sisters, with luck he will never leave prison on his own feet.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:38 am

Kiwirob wrote:
SL1200MK2 wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:

They’re in prison, why should we care?


Because for one, not everyone stays in prison forever and the hope is they’ve been brought to a point where they can function in society. That’s along with the whole part about civil societies preventing needless abject suffering even for societies worst.


He’s a pedophile, he raped his own sisters, with luck he will never leave prison on his own feet.



No one is saying he should get out. However, just because someone commits a criminal act doesn’t then mean that society has to commit the same act upon the offender. If someone commits murder, do we then have to commit the same act by murdering them? That’s not justice, it’s vengeance. Western democracies are beyond such primitive and barbaric punishments which equate to nothing more than an eye for an eye.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:43 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
SL1200MK2 wrote:

Because for one, not everyone stays in prison forever and the hope is they’ve been brought to a point where they can function in society. That’s along with the whole part about civil societies preventing needless abject suffering even for societies worst.


He’s a pedophile, he raped his own sisters, with luck he will never leave prison on his own feet.



No one is saying he should get out. However, just because someone commits a criminal act doesn’t then mean that society has to commit the same act upon the offender. If someone commits murder, do we then have to commit the same act by murdering them? That’s not justice, it’s vengeance. Western democracies are beyond such primitive and barbaric punishments which equate to nothing more than an eye for an eye.


You say all that but when he's inside he will be the lowest of the low, his fellow inmates will use abuse and treat him like a toy. He will deserve everything that happens to him.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:24 am

Kiwirob has a point, I might add it’s not just Duggars victims who are impacted in a very negative way. I was married to a former police officer whose personal life, marriage/family and carrier was destroyed by working in child protection. It was a combination of constantly interviewing both the victims and perps which led to her downfall. Their office (western Sydney) averaged about 40 to 50 phone calls per week. Less then 2 percent of pedos being investigated where convicted. So while I may not agree entirely with everything Rob says I too have zero sympathy for the convicted. They are generally housed among each other, protected from the general population of the prison. And in my opinion few if any are ever successfully reintegrated into society.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:25 pm

What's even more disgusting is how his parents and wife keep defending him instead of worrying about his sisters and children.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:55 pm

Makes me wonder, who else in his family are, were partaking in his type of activity. Hard experience has taught me it’s a learned behaviour with many if not most.
 
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And in my opinion few if any are ever successfully reintegrated into society.

Josh Duggar had little chance to do that anyway, having grown up on his parents’ bubble of their perky fertility cult, and then the discombobulating environment that is constant media scrutiny. The only Duggar kids that so far function in society have been two daughters whose husbands have taken them away from that toxic environment.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:09 pm

Kiwirob wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:

He’s a pedophile, he raped his own sisters, with luck he will never leave prison on his own feet.



No one is saying he should get out. However, just because someone commits a criminal act doesn’t then mean that society has to commit the same act upon the offender. If someone commits murder, do we then have to commit the same act by murdering them? That’s not justice, it’s vengeance. Western democracies are beyond such primitive and barbaric punishments which equate to nothing more than an eye for an eye.


You say all that but when he's inside he will be the lowest of the low, his fellow inmates will use abuse and treat him like a toy. He will deserve everything that happens to him.


Very often, these sorts of offenders are kept either in protective custody or in a housing unit of other similar types. These isn’t to say he’ll always be safe, however, it also won’t be open season. This is even more true for someone with notoriety.

I find these people vile though but I also find extra judgement and punishment from prisoners to be an inappropriate way to go about it.
 
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Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:49 pm

Even in segregated/protective housing, there is still a hierarchy, leaders, followers and then Josh...
 
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Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:02 pm

SL1200MK2 wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
CitizenJustin wrote:


No one is saying he should get out. However, just because someone commits a criminal act doesn’t then mean that society has to commit the same act upon the offender. If someone commits murder, do we then have to commit the same act by murdering them? That’s not justice, it’s vengeance. Western democracies are beyond such primitive and barbaric punishments which equate to nothing more than an eye for an eye.


You say all that but when he's inside he will be the lowest of the low, his fellow inmates will use abuse and treat him like a toy. He will deserve everything that happens to him.


Very often, these sorts of offenders are kept either in protective custody or in a housing unit of other similar types. These isn’t to say he’ll always be safe, however, it also won’t be open season. This is even more true for someone with notoriety.

I find these people vile though but I also find extra judgement and punishment from prisoners to be an inappropriate way to go about it.



That’s exactly what I’m saying. The criminals that people want to see abused/raped(which is disgusting) aren’t the ones being victimized. They’re the most protected inmates. It’s the low level offenders and other vulnerable inmates like youth and LGBTQ suffering the brunt of abuse. Essentially, the inmates with the greatest chance of getting out and becoming productive members of society are being brutalized and end up leaving with the weight of severe trauma. Any country that calls itself civilized shouldn’t be ok with this. The people advocating rape and abuse don’t seem to have a single clue about who’s being victimized and the violence that rape entails. I can only guess that those who condone prison rape haven’t been raped themselves. For those of us who have experiences sexual violence, I can firmly say that most of us wouldn’t wish such an experience on our worst enemy.
 
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Re: Josh Duggar Charged with Possession of Child Porn

Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:05 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
SL1200MK2 wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:

You say all that but when he's inside he will be the lowest of the low, his fellow inmates will use abuse and treat him like a toy. He will deserve everything that happens to him.


Very often, these sorts of offenders are kept either in protective custody or in a housing unit of other similar types. These isn’t to say he’ll always be safe, however, it also won’t be open season. This is even more true for someone with notoriety.

I find these people vile though but I also find extra judgement and punishment from prisoners to be an inappropriate way to go about it.



That’s exactly what I’m saying. The criminals that people want to see abused/raped(which is disgusting) aren’t the ones being victimized. They’re the most protected inmates. It’s the low level offenders and other vulnerable inmates like youth and LGBTQ suffering the brunt of abuse. Essentially, the inmates with the greatest chance of getting out and becoming productive members of society are being brutalized and end up leaving with the weight of severe trauma. Any country that calls itself civilized shouldn’t be ok with this. The people advocating rape and abuse don’t seem to have a single clue about who’s being victimized and the violence that rape entails. I can only guess that those who condone prison rape haven’t been raped themselves. For those of us who have experiences sexual violence, I can firmly say that most of us wouldn’t wish such an experience on our worst enemy.


At the end of the day Duggar is a child rapist, they only way he should leave prison is in a box.

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Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos