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Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 12:58 am
by 1337Delta764
https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry- ... in-canada/

Looks like Greyhound is closing its Greyhound Canada division. An end of an era indeed. I wonder what is the future for their US division.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:57 am
by ThePointblank
Greyhound Canada has been losing money for years already; they had pulled out of Western Canada a few years back due to continued mounting losses, so for them to completely pull out isn't all that surprising.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:43 pm
by johns624
...and nobody noticed...

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:55 pm
by frmrCapCadet
I suspect that the Canadian government is going to have to reinvent a national surface transportation system. There are likely bits and pieces of it still surviving but some sort of knitting together and subsidies could make it work. Daily passenger railroad service on existing routes, and then bus/van service to RR stations for connecting is the most likely.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:31 pm
by seb146
frmrCapCadet wrote:
I suspect that the Canadian government is going to have to reinvent a national surface transportation system. There are likely bits and pieces of it still surviving but some sort of knitting together and subsidies could make it work. Daily passenger railroad service on existing routes, and then bus/van service to RR stations for connecting is the most likely.


From what I see on travel videos, train service in Western Canada is more about tourism. There are regular passengers, of course, but it seems many ride the train for the experience of Western Canada. Calgary has no train service anyway. I suppose they could extend WCE from Vancouver to Kamloops.

Maybe the answer is regional and corridor service on both bus and rail.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:44 pm
by ltbewr
It is possible that once the pandemic is over some small, regional providers could crop up like in the Quebec City - Windsor corridor. Problem is that the distances in Canada are so far that flying becomes a better option. I know in the USA we have some cheap regional bus services, mainly catering to the Chinese communities in the NE corridor, and for some Hispanic/Latino communities to from the NE metro areas to Florida. The USA side of Greyhound is going to reinstate cross border services like NYC-Montreal/Toronto, Seattle-Vancouver BC when pandemic restrictions come off.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:08 pm
by johns624
seb146 wrote:

Maybe the answer is regional and corridor service on both bus and rail.
The railroads in western Canada are pretty maxed out with freight trains. The Canadian usually runs hours, if not days late.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 10:31 pm
by ThePointblank
ltbewr wrote:
It is possible that once the pandemic is over some small, regional providers could crop up like in the Quebec City - Windsor corridor. Problem is that the distances in Canada are so far that flying becomes a better option. I know in the USA we have some cheap regional bus services, mainly catering to the Chinese communities in the NE corridor, and for some Hispanic/Latino communities to from the NE metro areas to Florida. The USA side of Greyhound is going to reinstate cross border services like NYC-Montreal/Toronto, Seattle-Vancouver BC when pandemic restrictions come off.

Correct. A number of smaller providers have cropped up to cover the routes when Greyhound initially left Western Canada, but it's a complete patchwork of small operators, which means that for some routes, it can be a mess.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 5:42 am
by usdcaguy
Greyhound USA seems to be doing ok. Charging almost as much as an airline if not more for a ticket and still getting plenty of passengers. My guess is that wealthy Western Canada doesn’t need or want bus service as most people will drive or fly. The US always seems to have a population of downtrodden or mentally ill people that will ride the bus, mostly due to the inability to plan in advance.

Re: Greyhound to exit Canada

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:35 pm
by Aesma
Carpooling is also an option isn't it ?