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Aaron747 wrote:Raisi is a human rights criminal and greatly feared within Iran. He claims he refuses to meet with Biden even if the tenets of JCPOA is reinstated. If that’s the case he should expect cold shoulder treatment in kind. Iranians aren’t getting happier about their economic fortunes anytime soon.
zkojq wrote:Not really surprising is it? When the moderate ends up with harsher sanctions put on the country (thanks to a hardliner on the other side of the planet) despite doing what the international community required of them, of course voters will lose confidence in being reasonable and support a hardliner.
Aaron747 wrote:zkojq wrote:Not really surprising is it? When the moderate ends up with harsher sanctions put on the country (thanks to a hardliner on the other side of the planet) despite doing what the international community required of them, of course voters will lose confidence in being reasonable and support a hardliner.
Not really obvious what public sentiment is since turnout was way down. Lowest in four decades.
MaverickM11 wrote:I'm not sure anything but a hard liner can even run?
Aaron747 wrote:Not really obvious what public sentiment is since turnout was way down. Lowest in four decades.
Zeppi wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:I'm not sure anything but a hard liner can even run?Aaron747 wrote:Not really obvious what public sentiment is since turnout was way down. Lowest in four decades.
It doesn't matter. At all. Both the candidates as well as the eventual "winner" of the "election" are basically handpicked by the Ayatollah, political oppostition is practically inexistant.
The actual polling is just show, those people that do show up to "vote" and also wave Iran flags in the streets in support of the governmen do so because they have to, either because they are employed in government owned enterprises or they work for the government themselves. Not doing so would result in nasty consequences for them.
This islamofascist regime is not one the rest of the world should play nice with, the sanctions are absolutely right. If anything they should be tightened, Iranians who are not on the government payroll say so themselves. And while at it, the same sanctions should be applied to Saudi Arabia and Russia - and then some.
slider wrote:What could possibly go wrong?
I'm sure in appeasement fashion, the US will go back to licking Iran's boots.
slider wrote:What could possibly go wrong?
I'm sure in appeasement fashion, the US will go back to licking Iran's boots.
zkojq wrote:Sanctions should have been lifted when the moderate was elected. Reward voters for choosing a moderate and they will do so again. It's not like keeping the sanctions on has achieved anything.
zkojq wrote:when the moderate was elected.
NIKV69 wrote:zkojq wrote:when the moderate was elected.
What moderate was elected?
LCDFlight wrote:Iran is trying its best to turn into North Korea.
The best we can do is voice support for the Iranian people's freedom. As Iran acts badly in neighboring countries, we of course can help any unwelcome spreading of their influence, such as when Gen Soleimani went on his little trip.
MaverickM11 wrote:Hopefully we bravely exchange beautiful love letters with the despot instead
Virtual737 wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:Hopefully we bravely exchange beautiful love letters with the despot instead
No need. He left office on Jan 20th.
Aaron747 wrote:Raisi is a human rights criminal and greatly feared within Iran. He claims he refuses to meet with Biden even if the tenets of JCPOA is reinstated. If that’s the case he should expect cold shoulder treatment in kind. Iranians aren’t getting happier about their economic fortunes anytime soon.
seb146 wrote:I saw something flash on my Alexa about Raisi asking Biden to rejoin JCPOA. I can not find any links to this. What would this do for tensions in the region?
seb146 wrote:I saw something flash on my Alexa about Raisi asking Biden to rejoin JCPOA.
PixelPilot wrote:With this and the troops moving out... all I can feel is sorry for the regular folks in the region. Hell incoming.
Aaron747 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:zkojq wrote:when the moderate was elected.
What moderate was elected?
Umm, Rouhani, duh. He was elected in 2013, and again in 2017. One of the first Iranian Presidents in years to even speak publicly about personal freedoms and women's rights. Crackdowns by religious police on public dress were drastically reduced from the start of his administration. He had to move to the right in 2017 to fend off a challenge from the ultraconservative idiot that was just elected.
You really going to claim Rouhani was not moderate after the shitshow of Ahmedinejad prior?
NIKV69 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
What moderate was elected?
Umm, Rouhani, duh. He was elected in 2013, and again in 2017. One of the first Iranian Presidents in years to even speak publicly about personal freedoms and women's rights. Crackdowns by religious police on public dress were drastically reduced from the start of his administration. He had to move to the right in 2017 to fend off a challenge from the ultraconservative idiot that was just elected.
You really going to claim Rouhani was not moderate after the shitshow of Ahmedinejad prior?
Some moderate, Iran still wants to blow Israel back to kingdom come. The word moderate and Iran don't go together.